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Just testing to see if I can post
by Martin Holmes 30 Sep '18

30 Sep '18

Hi all, Ignore me, I'm just finding out whether I have permission to post to the Council list. Cheers, Martin

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Referring to the TEI Stylesheets on the web
by Peter Stadler 28 Sep '18

28 Sep '18

Hi Council, hi Martin, the subject is a little misleading, so let me explain the issue (sorry, lengthy again): Say, you want to build the TEI Guidelines but don’t have the TEI Stylesheets installed/downloaded on your machine. In the Makefile (under TEI/P5) you’ll find the following lines ``` XSL=/usr/share/xml/tei/stylesheet # If you have not installed the Debian packages, uncomment one # of the next two lines: #XSL=../Stylesheets/release/tei-xsl/p5 #XSL=http://www.tei-c.org/stylesheet/release/xml/tei ``` which suggests that you can point to an online resource for the Stylesheets (see the last line of the code snippet). Yet, that does not work and probably never(!) worked, because in the ant built file (TEI/P5/antbuilder.xml) the stylesheets are called like ``` <xslt processor="trax" force="yes" style="${XSL}/odds/odd2json.xsl" in="p5subset.xml" out="p5subset.js“> ``` i.e. the respective stylesheet is pointed to from the @style attribute. But this @style attribute can not (and probably never could) refer to an URI, see https://ant.apache.org/manual/Tasks/style.html <https://ant.apache.org/manual/Tasks/style.html> – only filenames. URIs can be consumed by the ANT XSLT task, but then we’d need to replace the @style attribute with a nested style element. When using a nested style element (with an appropriate url element), we’re getting in trouble with our current practice which is to only use relative paths (almost) everywhere but without providing a proper scheme. This seems like a whole can of worms and I already tried several things but nothing really worked without rewriting too much code. Any comments and/or ideas are welcome Peter

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Update Council members
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 28 Sep '18

28 Sep '18

Hi all, I updated the terms of the Council members on the website: http://www.tei-c.org/activities/council/ Please let me know if your affiliation has changed or if you want your name linked to a website. Best wishes, Martina

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Stylesheets release starter question
by Syd Bauman 28 Sep '18

28 Sep '18

Who am I supposed to ask for the TEI-C GPG key passphrase? Whoever it is, could you send it (off list) to me or Raff? Thanks! (Unless you already have it, Raff.)

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when to meet? Doodle poll invite
by Syd Bauman 28 Sep '18

28 Sep '18

Per Martina, here is our Doodle poll for scheduling future TEI Council monthly teleconference calls. This poll is only about which day of week and what time, not about 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, last, or whatever week of month. All times are UTC, and thus shift an hour for DST. 12:00Z, earliest time ------- -------- ---- 07:00 EST, 08:00 EDT 12:00 GMT, 13:00 BST 13:00 CET, 14:00 CEST 21:00Z, latest time ------- ------ ---- 16:00 EST, 17:00 EDT 21:00 GMT, 22:00 BST 22:00 CET, 23:00 CEST I can't speak for others, but here in USA [1] we will "fall back" from DST to standard time on Sun 04 Nov; except that Florida is trying to exempt itself from ever using standard time -- they want to use DST all year. So Sarah, you should keep abreast of that. A good list of time changes is available at https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/2018.html Notes ----- [1] Except for AZ and HI, which do not observe DST at all. But we don't have any Council members in either of those states. :-)

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Stylesheets release freeze -- better late than never
by Syd Bauman 27 Sep '18

27 Sep '18

We have just created the release branch for Stylesheets (which we should have done last week). So feel free to push to 'dev' branch, but nothing should go to 'release-7.46.0' branch unless approved by me or Raff. Could Martin & Peter create appropriate jobs in Jenkins, please? Thanks.

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Meeting in 20 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 27 Sep '18

27 Sep '18

Hi all, we start in 20 minutes. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGtDk4AoOvHXTV6EzdSeyo-D5ItsAz7PBnKtHIg… --Martina

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Re: [Tei-council] meeting?
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 27 Sep '18

27 Sep '18

Hi Syd, I actually sent out the agenda and hangouts link on Tuesday. Hope everyone got it. Just in case: Our conference call is today, starting at 12:00Z-13:30Z (08:00-9:30 EDT, 13:00-14:30 BST, 14:00-15:30 CEST) This is the agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGtDk4AoOvHXTV6EzdSeyo-D5ItsAz7PBnKtHIg… Hangouts: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/brown.edu/teicouncil Best wishes, Martina -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> Im Auftrag von Syd Bauman Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. September 2018 00:08 An: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Betreff: [Tei-council] meeting? RELAX NG namespace in Schematron Welcome aboard, Vanessa! Martina -- are we in fact meeting tomorrow, and if so a) at what time?[1,2] b) can you post the URLs for both the Hangout and the agenda & minutes sooner rather than later? All -- I'm working on the "normal" ODD->Schematron pathway (odds/extract-isosch.xsl, i.e. the process that creates a standalone Schematron schema, not the one that embeds Schematron into RELAX NG) in response to Stylesheets #250. The code in that program always generates an <sch:ns prefix="rng"> element to declare the RELAX NG namespace in the output Schematron. I presume when it was put in it was needed because some Schematron rule or other used "rng:" in its @context or @test attribute. But the string "rng:" does not occur in *any* attribute in all of P5 now. (And the only elements in the RELAX NG namespace are inside <egXML> or in data.XXX, soon to be deprecated.) So I am planning to nuke the automatic generation of <sch:ns prefix="rng"> in this routine. (It will still get generated if there are definitions that specify it on their @ns, or an <sch:ns> element that defines it, or it is a namespace in force for one of the definitions.) If anyone knows of a reason it should stay, please speak up soon (or revert my change). Notes ----- [1] 12:00Z = 08:00 EDT, 13:00 BST, 14:00 CEST 13:00Z = 09:00 EDT, 14:00 BST, 15:00 CEST Sorry, I don't know your time zone, Vanessa. [2] IIRC we agreed to 13:00Z, but then again, I thought we agreed not to have a teleconference the last Thu of Oct, too. _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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meeting? RELAX NG namespace in Schematron
by Syd Bauman 27 Sep '18

27 Sep '18

Welcome aboard, Vanessa! Martina -- are we in fact meeting tomorrow, and if so a) at what time?[1,2] b) can you post the URLs for both the Hangout and the agenda & minutes sooner rather than later? All -- I'm working on the "normal" ODD->Schematron pathway (odds/extract-isosch.xsl, i.e. the process that creates a standalone Schematron schema, not the one that embeds Schematron into RELAX NG) in response to Stylesheets #250. The code in that program always generates an <sch:ns prefix="rng"> element to declare the RELAX NG namespace in the output Schematron. I presume when it was put in it was needed because some Schematron rule or other used "rng:" in its @context or @test attribute. But the string "rng:" does not occur in *any* attribute in all of P5 now. (And the only elements in the RELAX NG namespace are inside <egXML> or in data.XXX, soon to be deprecated.) So I am planning to nuke the automatic generation of <sch:ns prefix="rng"> in this routine. (It will still get generated if there are definitions that specify it on their @ns, or an <sch:ns> element that defines it, or it is a namespace in force for one of the definitions.) If anyone knows of a reason it should stay, please speak up soon (or revert my change). Notes ----- [1] 12:00Z = 08:00 EDT, 13:00 BST, 14:00 CEST 13:00Z = 09:00 EDT, 14:00 BST, 15:00 CEST Sorry, I don't know your time zone, Vanessa. [2] IIRC we agreed to 13:00Z, but then again, I thought we agreed not to have a teleconference the last Thu of Oct, too.

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Next Meeting: September 27
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 26 Sep '18

26 Sep '18

Hi all, our next conference call is on Thursday September 27 (08:00 EDT, 13:00 BST, 14:00 CEST). Here is the agenda - please add your topics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGtDk4AoOvHXTV6EzdSeyo-D5ItsAz7PBnKtHIg… I'm happy that Vanessa will join us for the meeting. For the call we usually use this Google Hangouts connection: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/brown.edu/teicouncil. Vanessa, you should already have access to the minutes. Please let me know if not. Best wishes, Martina

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