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Stylesheets (and other) meeting time
by Syd Bauman 17 Dec '19

17 Dec '19

We agreed Stylesheets meetings should be 1st Tue of the month at 13:00Z. Two problems, the first with just Jan, the second more general. * I will be traveling on Tue 07 Jan; it is perhaps 50/50 I will be able to make the call, and if I do, I am likely to be a jet-lagged blithering idiot. (I am taking a red-eye from Boston to Leeds, UK overnight Mon 06 to Tue 07.) * The time is a bit of a problem for Martin. During daylight's saving time (Mar-Oct) it is 06:00, which is fine. But during standard time (Jan, Feb, Nov, Dec) 13:00Z is 05:00 PST. Thus we would not have Martin for the 1st hour of the Jan, Feb, Nov, or Dec meetings. Thoughts?

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Council meeting times
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 17 Dec '19

17 Dec '19

Dear Council, I've added our monthly Council meetings to the google calendar. We agreed that it should be the 2nd Tuesday of the month at: 9:00-10:30 (EST/EDT) / 14:00-15:30 (GMT/BST) / 15:00-16:30 (CET/CEST). Only the meeting on March 10 is affected by the switch to summer time, therefore the meeting will be at 9:00-10:30 (EDT) / 13:00-14:30 (GMT) / 14:00-15:30 (CET). Our next regular Council call is on Tuesday, January 14. Best, Martina

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Is oxygen plugin message from tei-c.org incorrect?
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 14 Dec '19

14 Dec '19

Dear TEI Councillors, Today I was showing Jessica Lu how to access the oXygen plugin from its supposedly canonical location tied to the latest release: https://www.tei-c.org/release/oxygen/updateSite.oxygen Or at least I *think* this is the correct site. Am I right about the URL? I'm writing up our documentation now for how the TEI community should install the oxygen plugin, having just walked Jessica through the process. The reason I'm suddenly uncertain about it is the message that pops up upon adding it, which warns the user, "Use this only if you are testing the plugin." Here's the message in full: DEVELOPMENT BUILD of the Oxygen TEI plugin based on the current trunk versions of TEI P5 and the TEI Stylesheets.Jenkins build number: 2019-07-18-143911. Use this only if you are testing the plugin. To avoid conflict with builtin framework, please ensure that you have gone to Preferences->Document Type Association in oXygen and deactivated all the TEI frameworks that have "External" in the storage columns. Is that the message that should be appearing with this plugin? It seems like the same message we see on the bleeding-edge plugin, and indeed it is: On installing the bleeding-edge plugin (from http://jenkins.tei-c.org/job/oxygen-tei-stable/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact… ) the message is the same: "Use this only if you are testing the plugin. " I don't think we intend for those messages to be so much the same, do we? But I want to check with you all and make sure I have the right URLs for the plugins first. Should I open a ticket about this on the TEI oxygen plugin repo? On the verge of opening said ticket, Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <ebb8(a)pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org

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Physical address for the TEI?
by Meaghan Brown 13 Dec '19

13 Dec '19

Does anyone happen to know the legal address for the TEI? I need it for bureaucratic reasons. Best, Meaghan -- Dr. Meaghan Brown

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Doodle Poll Spring F2F
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 12 Dec '19

12 Dec '19

Dear all, I apologize for this horrible doodle for planning our spring F2F meeting: https://doodle.com/poll/zaeh4k9kfu5wdhfp In our meeting on Tuesday we decided to do another doodle poll on times and decide for a place afterwards. The F2F meeting lasts 3 days (+ travel time). Please fill in the doodle as soon as possible. Best, Martina

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standOff problem #1: content model of <teiCorpus>
by Syd Bauman 11 Dec '19

11 Dec '19

The current content model of <teiCorpus> is: teiHeader, ( ( model.resourceLike+, ( TEI | teiCorpus )* ) | ( TEI | teiCorpus )+ ) ) That is, you may *either* have a series of 1 or more <TEI> and <teiCorpus> elements, intermingled; OR you can have one or more of <facsimile>, <fsdDecl>, <sourceDoc>, and <text> elements intermingled followed by zero or more <TEI> and <teiCorpus> elements intermingled. This is exactly the same as saying teiHeader, model.resourceLike*, ( TEI | teiCorpus )* except that it requires at least one child <TEI>, <teiCorpus>, <facsimile>, <fsdDecl>, <sourceDoc>, or <text>. In the new <standOff> world, we have voted to make <TEI> a member of model.resourceLike. Thus we have to alter the content model of <teiCorpus> because as written it would be ambiguous (if a <TEI> is your first child after <teiHeader>, you don't know which branch of the content model you are in). It is not too difficult to solve the ambiguity problem: teiHeader, ( ( model.resourceLike+, ( teiCorpus, ( TEI | teiCorpus )* )? ) | ( teiCorpus, ( TEI | teiCorpus )* ) ) ) I am pretty confident this content model validates the same set of documents (and, perhaps as importantly, rejects the same set of documents) as the original content model (with <TEI> in model.resourceLike). I am not against using this content model. But it occurs to me that a) it is a bit cumbersome b) the set of documents permitted is already screwy c) it looks very different from the content model of <TEI>, which (in the new world order) <teiCorpus> is very similar to. One possible solution is to 1) add <teiCorpus> to model.resourceLike, too; and then 2) change content model of <teiCorpus> to match that of <TEI> (in the new standOff world): teiHeader, model.resourceLike+ This has the advantage of having a very clean, understandable content model for <teiCorpus> (and no ambiguity). It has the disadvantage that it allows for even more screwy things. E.g. <teiCorpus> <teiHeader> <standOff> <TEI> <facsimile> <TEI> <teiCorpus> <TEI> <facsimile> <TEI> <teiCorpus> <facsimile> </teiCorpus> It has the feature (which some will consider an advantage, others a disadvantage, I'm sure) that <TEI> and <teiCorpus> become the same thing. Just as an XSLT stylesheet can have an outermost element of <xsl:stylesheet> or <xsl:transform>, no difference, a TEI document will be able to have <TEI> or <teiCorpus> as an outermost element, no difference. Same goes at every level of nesting where one is allowed: so is the other, and it can have the same content. Personally, I still think putting <TEI> into model.resourceLike was probably a mistake, but once we've done that, I'm inclined to say throw <teiCorpus> in there, too.

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CI for standOff
by Syd Bauman 11 Dec '19

11 Dec '19

Dear CI server maintainers -- Would it be possible to add the the "sydb-standOff" branch to one or more of the contiuous integration server lists of branches-to- build? I can build it locally, but am soon to send out mail asking that people look at the changes and play with the result. Having a CI copy would make that easier on folks. If not I can certainly put the build I generate up on the web somewhere.

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Unihan etc.
by Martin Holmes 10 Dec '19

10 Dec '19

Hi all, Following today's discussion, I posted a brief summary on the pull request: <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/1901> Please read and feel free to edit/expand where necessary. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre

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Triangle SCI and possible Mellon grant
by Hugh Cayless 10 Dec '19

10 Dec '19

Hi all, I was supposed to send this a couple of weeks ago. My apologies. In October, Martina and I, along with several other folks, were at the Scholarly Communications Institute here in NC. Our group was focused on doing something about better internationalizing the TEI, including improving the translation process, introductory materials, etc. At the end, we were approached by Patricia Hswe, who’s a program officer at Mellon about possibly putting together a proposal to do some of this work. The following document is a kind of summary of our conclusions plus some ideas for how extra funding might help: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TPuMHN4ZxklX5JlLo7HEFmEgTiUvuRD0cxDFE65… Patricia would like us to submit a prospectus, which would lead to a grant proposal if it is accepted. Your thoughts are, of course, welcome. So, interesting times! Hugh Sent from my phone.

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delete git branch?
by Syd Bauman 10 Dec '19

10 Dec '19

I re-named the "nest_TEI_deprecate_teiCorpus" branch to "sydb_standOff". That really means, of course, that I copied it. If we delete the old one, is the history still kept in the new one? (Looking at [1] it looks like the history would be kept, and we can just delete the old one.) Notes ----- [1] https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/commits/sydb_standOff/P5/Source/Specs/TEI.xml

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