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chaining for idiots
by Lou Burnard 22 Oct '16

22 Oct '16

As promised, here's an initial draft for a tutorial on how to chain ODDs together. Thanks to James and Hugh for patient and helpful input during its composition. No thanks at all to SNCF for causing me to lose half of the first draft by braking suddenly on the train here on Friday. But above all thanks to everyone on Council who takes time to give it a quick read and makes suggestions for topics as yet uncovered, or covered inadequately! readable (ish) version: http://teic.github.io/TCW/howtoChain.html source : https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TEIC/TEI/dev/Documents/pureODD/howtoChain…

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Re: [tei-council] another name issue
by James Cummings 22 Oct '16

22 Oct '16

I've always said compiled ODD. Resolved also makes sense. James -- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford On 22 Oct 2016 18:29, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote: Talking of naming, can we get a consensus on what we call the thing that results from processing a TEI ODD with teitoodd ? It's analogous to the p5subset.xml we know and love, so maybe we should call it a subset, not an ODD (which is what teitoodd implies : give it foo.odd and you will receive foo.odd.odd) . It isn't an ODD as we know it, obviously. But it isn't necessarily a subset either. I think of it as a "compiled ODD" but maybe that has the wrong connotations. Its distinguishing feature is that any *Ref elements such as elementRef classRef etc. in the input will have been resolved so maybe its a "resolved ODD" or an "explicit ODD" ... -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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another name issue
by Lou Burnard 22 Oct '16

22 Oct '16

Talking of naming, can we get a consensus on what we call the thing that results from processing a TEI ODD with teitoodd ? It's analogous to the p5subset.xml we know and love, so maybe we should call it a subset, not an ODD (which is what teitoodd implies : give it foo.odd and you will receive foo.odd.odd) . It isn't an ODD as we know it, obviously. But it isn't necessarily a subset either. I think of it as a "compiled ODD" but maybe that has the wrong connotations. Its distinguishing feature is that any *Ref elements such as elementRef classRef etc. in the input will have been resolved so maybe its a "resolved ODD" or an "explicit ODD" ...

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github down
by Lou Burnard 21 Oct '16

21 Oct '16

Dearie me, and there we were abandoning sourceforge because it kept crashing, and now github has gone down the plughole too. Scarey. Apparently, according to French tv news, this is part of a mammoth DOS attack on lots of high profile US based sites.

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Re: [tei-council] purifying odd doc
by James Cummings 21 Oct '16

21 Oct '16

Yes. And like with a normal odd in a chained odd you have to moduleRef all the modules from the source that are going to be used in your subset. You don't get everything in the source by default, the first ODD just limits what is in the source that you have available to choose from in your second ODD. James -- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford On 20 Oct 2016 19:07, Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> wrote: Well, I think if you had a moduleRef, then you could delete it with an elementSpec, you just can't use the elementSpec without the moduleRef. I think tests and better documentation of this would be a grand idea. Sent from my phone. > On Oct 20, 2016, at 13:43, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > >> On 20/10/16 18:23, Hugh Cayless wrote: >> The way I was thinking about it: every ODD has to declare the modules it's >> using. >> >> Aren't moduleRef/@exclude and elementSpec/@mode='delete' basically >> equivalent anyway? > > Yes. Which is why I am puzzled that one works and the other doesn't. > > I suggest it might help to create a little test suite... > -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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purifying odd doc
by Lou Burnard 20 Oct '16

20 Oct '16

On my way home from Vienna I started drafting a little homily about how to update your old ODD to a pure new shiny one. The source is in github under TEI/Documentation/pureODD/purifyDoc.xml CETEICEAN renders it reasonably well (modulo a couple of gotchas on which I've posted issues) at http://teic.github.io/TCW/purifyDoc.html, but the nicest reading version is at http://teic.github.io/TCW/purifyDoc_static.html I'd very much welcome Council's comments before exposing it further. Seems to me we need to promote ODD a bit more, and this might be a good start. I'm also working on an "ODD for beginners" guide, but this one is aimed at old lags who made an ODD back in the day and are interested in getting up to speed with its new possibilities. So much so (I now realise) that I've completely forgotten to mention the existence of Roma in it. But I'll stop tweaking for now anent your comments...

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co-operative stylesheet education session #2
by Syd Bauman 20 Oct '16

20 Oct '16

Reminder: we are scheduled to meet at 17:00Z today, Tue 10-18. That's 10:00 in Vancouver, 13:00 in New York, 18:00 in London, and 19:00 in Vienna. A few hours ago my sister found her husband dead. So I may not be at our meeting, and if I do I will be in less than optimal surroundings and w/o any preparation. Someone else should set up the Google Hangout. (Or we should use Skype, and someone else should set that up. :-)

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Build failed in Jenkins: TEIP5-dev #2590
by Victoria TEI Jenkins 17 Oct '16

17 Oct '16

See <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-dev/2590/changes> Changes: [philomousos] Updated release notes. [philomousos] Updated changelog. [philomousos] Fixed build script. 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systemId: <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-dev/ws/P5/ReleaseNotes/readme-3.0.…;> lineNumber: 45; columnNumber: 89; Attribute name "data-pjax-transient" associated with an element type "meta" must be followed by the ' = ' character. at net.sf.saxon.event.Sender.sendSAXSource(Sender.java:420) at net.sf.saxon.event.Sender.send(Sender.java:143) at net.sf.saxon.Controller.transform(Controller.java:1890) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.TraXLiaison.transform(TraXLiaison.java:195) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.XSLTProcess.process(XSLTProcess.java:876) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.XSLTProcess.execute(XSLTProcess.java:414) at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:292) at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor4.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606) at org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:106) at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.Sequential.execute(Sequential.java:68) at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:292) at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor4.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606) at org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:106) at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.MacroInstance.execute(MacroInstance.java:396) at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:292) at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor4.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606) at org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:106) at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.execute(Target.java:435) at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.performTasks(Target.java:456) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeSortedTargets(Project.java:1393) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTarget(Project.java:1364) at org.apache.tools.ant.helper.DefaultExecutor.executeTargets(DefaultExecutor.java:41) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTargets(Project.java:1248) at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.runBuild(Main.java:851) at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.startAnt(Main.java:235) at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:280) at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:109) Caused by: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; systemId: <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-dev/ws/P5/ReleaseNotes/readme-3.0.…;> lineNumber: 45; columnNumber: 89; Attribute name "data-pjax-transient" associated with an element type "meta" must be followed by the ' = ' character. at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.createSAXParseException(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.fatalError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLScanner.reportFatalError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLNSDocumentScannerImpl.scanAttribute(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLNSDocumentScannerImpl.scanStartElement(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLDocumentFragmentScannerImpl$FragmentContentDispatcher.dispatch(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLDocumentFragmentScannerImpl.scanDocument(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XML11Configuration.parse(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XML11Configuration.parse(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XMLParser.parse(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.AbstractSAXParser.parse(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.jaxp.SAXParserImpl$JAXPSAXParser.parse(Unknown Source) at net.sf.saxon.event.Sender.sendSAXSource(Sender.java:396) ... 35 more --------- org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; systemId: <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-dev/ws/P5/ReleaseNotes/readme-3.0.…;> lineNumber: 45; columnNumber: 89; Attribute name "data-pjax-transient" associated with an element type "meta" must be followed by the ' = ' character. at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.createSAXParseException(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.fatalError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLErrorReporter.reportError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLScanner.reportFatalError(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLNSDocumentScannerImpl.scanAttribute(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLNSDocumentScannerImpl.scanStartElement(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLDocumentFragmentScannerImpl$FragmentContentDispatcher.dispatch(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLDocumentFragmentScannerImpl.scanDocument(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XML11Configuration.parse(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XML11Configuration.parse(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.XMLParser.parse(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.parsers.AbstractSAXParser.parse(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.jaxp.SAXParserImpl$JAXPSAXParser.parse(Unknown Source) at net.sf.saxon.event.Sender.sendSAXSource(Sender.java:396) at net.sf.saxon.event.Sender.send(Sender.java:143) at net.sf.saxon.Controller.transform(Controller.java:1890) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.TraXLiaison.transform(TraXLiaison.java:195) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.XSLTProcess.process(XSLTProcess.java:876) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.XSLTProcess.execute(XSLTProcess.java:414) at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:292) at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor4.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606) at org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:106) at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.Sequential.execute(Sequential.java:68) at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:292) at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor4.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606) at org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:106) at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) at org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.MacroInstance.execute(MacroInstance.java:396) at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:292) at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor4.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606) at org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:106) at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348) at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.execute(Target.java:435) at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.performTasks(Target.java:456) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeSortedTargets(Project.java:1393) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTarget(Project.java:1364) at org.apache.tools.ant.helper.DefaultExecutor.executeTargets(DefaultExecutor.java:41) at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTargets(Project.java:1248) at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.runBuild(Main.java:851) at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.startAnt(Main.java:235) at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:280) at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:109) Total time: 4 seconds make[1]: *** [dist-doc.stamp] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-dev/ws/P5'> make: *** [install] Error 2 dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2 debuild: fatal error at line 1364: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc -nc -b -i.svn -I.svn failed make: *** [deb] Error 29 Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Archiving artifacts

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co-operative stylesheet education session #1 homework
by Syd Bauman 16 Oct '16

16 Oct '16

Martin posted his homework less than an hour after the meeting was over last time; I just posted mine a few minutes ago. James? Poke, poke. > For the next meeting, we agreed that: > > - MH will briefly describe exactly what happens when teitohtml > --odd is run. > > - SB will briefly describe exactly what happens when ISOSchematron > is generated from an ODD file. > > - JC will briefly describe what happens when teitorng is run.

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co-operative stylesheet education session #2 reschedule request
by Syd Bauman 16 Oct '16

16 Oct '16

A repeat of the conversation so far is appended, below, for those who are not on the Council list. For me, one week later (Tue 10-25 either 17:00Z or, as RV suggests, 13:00Z) is actually somewhat better. One hour earlier (Tue 10-18 16:00Z) is quite a bit worse. But either way, to be honest Elisa, my inclination is to not open the can of worms of re-scheduling this. It took quite a bit of work to schedule these things, and we all knew full well at the outset that not everyone would make every meeting. EBB> We've got a Stylesheets study group scheduled for next Tuesday EBB> 10/18, but I've got an obnoxious schedule conflict just for that EBB> day (in which Tuesday turns into my Monday schedule thanks to EBB> Pitt's bizarre Fall Break) that has me teaching through most of EBB> it. EBB> I was wondering if there's a chance we can defer to the EBB> following Tuesday, 10/25 instead? Raff, I know you're only your EBB> way to Pittsburgh on 10/25, so that might not be good... EBB> Alternatively, if we backed up the meeting by one hour earlier, EBB> I could do it. EBB> Thanks for checking calendars and such. RV> 10/25 wouldn't work for me at 12:00pm, but could do earlier RV> e.g. 09:00 EDT. MS> 10/25 would work for me, but I have to teach until 12:30 EDT.

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