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Next meeting: Thu Nov 10
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 09 Nov '22

09 Nov '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Thursday Nov 10 at 8am PST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET https://docs.google.com/document/d/11jqtKjPZN4NLHP26CzyS3ftoypvOe2fmTG5-isK… Please feel free to add more items to the agenda. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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who stays, who goes?
by Bauman, Syd 07 Nov '22

07 Nov '22

According to https://tei-c.org/Activities/Council/, Peter, Elli, and Helena are all departing at the end of next month. Didn’t Helena and Elli get re-elected?

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New Council Chair
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 05 Nov '22

05 Nov '22

Dear Council, After five years as Chair of the Council, it is high time to hand over the "sceptre" to someone else. Elisa has already expressed interest to take over, but as not everyone was present at the last meeting, I would like to encourage everyone who would like to stand for Chair (or propose someone) to let us know before/at the next meeting on Thursday 10 November. Please find more on the Council Chair elections here: https://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=TEI-Council-FAQ#How_is_the_TEI_Techn… I'm happy to answer any questions concerning tasks and workload. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next Stylesheets meeting: October 27th
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 27 Oct '22

27 Oct '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Thursday October 27th at 15.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). The plan for this week is to greenlight some issues that need discussion and then to continue the work we started last month concerning Guidelines-related issues. The agenda last month was motivated by the imminent release, but I think it might be efficient to keep working on those issues: certain discussions concerning the usability of internal links are fresh in our minds (and also the pertinent stylesheets to examine). Nevertheless, do not hesitate to add other items to the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>! Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Release process completed -- freeze lifted
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Dear all, Sabine, Peter, and I have successfully released the Guidelines 4.5.0 and the Stylesheets 7.54.0. The freeze is lifted, please feel free to push to dev again. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Oxygen plugin status
by Martin Holmes 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Hi All, Martina, Syd and I met this morning and made changes to the Oxygen plugin build to account for jar file changes in the latest Oxygen release. That seems to have worked, in that the bleeding-edge plugin built successfully on Jenkins, we were able to install it on both Oxygen 24.1 and 25, and it mostly works. The build of the stable plugin, which I ran manually on my Jenkins server, also seems to have been successful, but we haven't tested that. I say mostly because we found two different issues which are not directly related to the plugin, and which were broken in previous versions of it. One is that the ODD-to-PDF build fails with an out-of-memory error when transforming tei_all. It's possible that the Oxygen folks have kept it working in their version of the framework by adding additional memory to the transformation, but I can't see how they're doing that, if they are. Anyway, the same transformation works OK for tei_lite.odd, so I don't think this is a major issue. A more serious problem is that the epub transformation fails because a handful of CSS files are in the wrong place relative to how the transformation runs. If you look at the Makefile in the Stylesheets, you can see that it copies CSS files to a second location where the transformation is expecting to find them (a line added to the file by Sebastian in 2014). However, the framework/plugin does not use the Makefile, so that step never happens, and the build fails. The Oxygen folks have fixed this in their version of the framework by patching our XSLT to point to the files where they actually are. That seems sensible to me, and I think what we actually have is a bug in the Stylesheets, where relative paths are used to point to things and not resolved against a solid location, so running the same transformation in different ways expects to find the same files in two different places. The Makefile solution of making copies of them seems a bit like a hack to me. If you are subscribed to the bleeding-edge plugin, you should get updates, and if you make use of it over the next few days and have any problems, do raise an issue on the oxygen-tei repo. I think it would be prudent to fix the Stylesheets bug before the next TEI / Stylesheets release, because a new "stable" version of the plugin will be released at that time, but the bug has been there for a while so it's not crucial. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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Heading for Release 4.5.0 / 7.54.0
by Peter Stadler 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Dear all, the release team (Martina, Sabine and I) had a very productive morning and pulled in some pending pull requests. There are still various pending PRs but we urge you to keep your hands away from the keyboard since we already entered freeze period (i.e. the real freeze, not the hot freeze!) That said, we’d really appreciate your input and review for/of * https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2359 <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2359> – Dead iso cat * https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2342 <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2342> – measure part of att.ranging * https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/pull/583 <https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/pull/583> – update p5subset The first two might get into the release if approved over the weekend; the third is a necessary update of the file p5subset.xml for the Stylesheets tests. Here we need to look through the changes to the expected results and whether they correctly reflect our intentions. The release team scheduled a meeting for Monday (see Google calendar) where we will go through the weekend-fallout. Additionally, we will then move all open issues and PRs from the current milestones to the next. If you already know about unfinished work regarding your tickets, please feel free to move them to the next milestone yourselves. Have a great weekend Peter

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Re: [Tei-council] Heading for Release 4.5.0 / 7.54.0
by Bauman, Syd 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

> Yes to „a quick thumbs up“. Done, PR approved. (Despite the mysterious appearance of roughly 70 extra <rng:define>s for various _[@generate] flavors of model class.) > How would you be doing the task of updating p5subset.xml? Ummm … in dev branch without a PR, and without asking someone else to do the hard part. (That last is not a serious complaint, BTW … I realize you are working on a release and am happy to have some of the work off-loaded to me. But you did ask.) ________________________________ Yes to „a quick thumbs up“. I created a PR by pulling in the new p5subset.xml and "fixing“ the tests by simply copying from actual-results to expected results where necessary. So the intellectual task is to check whether these changes (to the expected-results in the PR) are indeed expected or whether they reveal some issues. How would you be doing the task of updating p5subset.xml?

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Oxygen plugin update
by Martin Holmes 17 Oct '22

17 Oct '22

Hi all, It turns out that we can't just adopt the new framework files provided by Radu. What we need to do is to compare each feature/transformation in the three current framework files with the new framework files, and figure out how to update each of our configurations based on the Oxygen ones; I'm really not sure what that will involve, and I don't have time to do it now, so I think it's time for Council to step in on this ticket: <https://github.com/TEIC/oxygen-tei/issues/27> I'm going to tentatively schedule some time next Friday to look at this if no-one else is interested, but until then I won't really be able to work on it, so be aware that if you update to Oxygen 25 and you're subscribed to the stable or bleeding-edge plugin, things may break. We might want to warn users too through TEI-L. I thought we had managed to convince the Oxygen team that we really need plenty of warning when they're going to release a new version that will break things for us, but they don't seem to have got the message. It's not really in their interest, of course -- our plugin enables people to keep using old Oxygen versions and still have up-to-date TEI and Stylesheets, so I can see how that might not be something they're too keen on. But we also have mutual interests that are not being properly tended; it makes no sense for Oxygen to release a new version with baked-in TEI 4.4.0 when we're just a couple of weeks away from releasing 4.5.0. I think it would help if Council had a more formal relationship with the Oxygen team and held regular coordination meetings. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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Council call today
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 14 Oct '22

14 Oct '22

Dear all, Our call today starts at 7am PDT / 10am EDT / 3pm BST / 4pm CEST This is the agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m9JRHADVcbk25AVh-SNGLXF4joBFHs3zslHOJS-… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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