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Warning from ODD processor
by Lou Burnard 09 Mar '23

09 Mar '23

Not sure whose problem this is, but the built in ODD to RELAXNC processor (part of the oXygen TEI framework) at release 25 of oxygen editor still seems to be using a component that needs updating. [xslt] Loading stylesheet /home/lou/Oxygen XML Editor 25/frameworks/tei/xml/tei/stylesheet/profiles/default/relaxng/to.xsl [echo] TRANG generate RNC from RELAXNG files WARNING: A terminally deprecated method in java.lang.System has been called WARNING: System::setSecurityManager has been called by org.apache.tools.ant.types.Permissions (file:/home/lou/Oxygen%20XML%20Editor%2025/tools/ant/lib/ant.jar) WARNING: Please consider reporting this to the maintainers of org.apache.tools.ant.types.Permissions WARNING: System::setSecurityManager will be removed in a future release [delete] Deleting: /home/lou/Public/odd4crit/out/odd4crit.rnc.rng "terminally deprecated" sounds a lot worse than it probably is...

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Dates of Sept. Paderborn F2F meeting
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 08 Mar '23

08 Mar '23

Greetings, Council! Would each of you respond to the poll on Slack about dates/time ranges for the September F2F meeting in Paderborn? Here's a direct link in case that's helpful: https://tei-c.slack.com/archives/C607Y6YAE/p1678299576116319 *If everyone can respond to that poll before we meet this Friday 3/10,* that would be marvellous! I'm hoping we can make our decision on the meeting dates/times during this meeting. As a reminder, Council meets this Friday, 10 March at 6:30 - 8am PT | 9:30 - 11am ET | 2:30 - 4pm UTC | 3:30 - 5PM CET. Here's our Google Doc Agenda with the Zoom link <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OrhGQxdU1jm-SInPTme5GYvy-s_dVhJUNqhPADR…>. Take a look through it and add updates / anything important that I've left out. Thanks, everyone! See you online in a couple of days! Cheers, Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org

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Stylesheets meeting in ~1h15
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 02 Mar '23

02 Mar '23

Hello! The next Stylesheets takes place today at at 19:00Z (11:00 PST. 14:00 EST, 20:00 CET) with the following agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_l_MZ6M2lxhE2qtH6QUkZVxo0-OQrNgRhOnpaU…>. See you in a bit! H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Next Stylesheets meeting: March 2nd
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 26 Feb '23

26 Feb '23

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting is scheduled for March 2nd at at 19:00Z (11:00 PST. 14:00 EST, 20:00 CET). We will work on the presentation of attribute lists, but don’t hesitate to add other items to the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_l_MZ6M2lxhE2qtH6QUkZVxo0-OQrNgRhOnpaU…>. Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Travel and Accommodations re Fwd: TEI Technical F2F in Guelph; May 7-9
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 19 Feb '23

19 Feb '23

Dear Council, Here is Susan Brown's response about booking accommodations in Guelph. We are welcome for the conference and workshops if we like. (I don't think there will be any problem with our proposing workshops either.) Please see details in her forwarded message about shuttle transit from the airport and accommodations, and note the complexity of the different blocking rates for different portions of the event. I think we're free to just start booking now on our own! Cheers, Elisa ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Susan Brown <sbrown(a)uoguelph.ca> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 4:38 PM Subject: Re: TEI Technical F2F in Guelph; May 7-9 To: Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> Cc: Janelle Jenstad <jenstad(a)uvic.ca>, Bauman, Syd < s.bauman(a)northeastern.edu> Hi Elisa, Sorry for the delayed response. I’ve had a crazy week getting ready to leave (and am now in transit) for a 10-day trip. We’d be thrilled to have people come for the conference and/or workshops! And proposals from Council members are most welcome, although I’m not sure if there is an overlap between your meetings and the first day of the workshops on Tuesday or not. Of course, you can book wherever you like. As I believe I mentioned, options near the university and downtown are limited, but if people have cars there are more possibilities. The shuttle between Guelph and Toronto airport is rather pricey (about $CAD100 each way, though just an additional $20 per person if multiple people are travelling together, I think) so a rental car may be more economical. I’ve been trying to get the block at Day’s Inn since December after our initial exchange; hopefully we’ll get something soon, in which case I’ll forward it on. However, what they were offering wasn’t much different from the standard rate, so I’m not sure it will be worth waiting. In the meantime, the Delta codes are below. They rather confusingly have room blocks separated out for the different events, with different rates. The TEI group block has a limited number of rooms. If anyone finds that they are unable to book under this code or can’t get the options they want, please let me know and I’ll see if they are willing to release additional rooms. Susan TEI Technical Council Meeting Start Date: Saturday, May 6, 2023 End Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 Last Day to Book: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 Hotel(s) offering your special group rate: Delta Hotels Guelph Conference Centre for 175 CAD - 235 CAD per night Book your group rate for TEI Technical Council Meeting <https://www.marriott.com/events/start.mi?id=1674756894447&key=GRP> DH Guelph Summer Workshops Room Block Start Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 End Date: Friday, May 12, 2023 Last Day to Book: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 Hotel(s) offering your special group rate: Delta Hotels Guelph Conference Centre for 225 CAD per night Book your group rate for DH Guelph Summer Workshops Room Block <https://www.marriott.com/events/start.mi?id=1672430454932&key=GRP> Making Links Conference Room Block Start Date: Friday, May 5, 2023 End Date: Sunday, May 7, 2023 Last Day to Book: Friday, March 24, 2023 Book your group rate for Making Links Conference Room Block <https://www.marriott.com/events/start.mi?id=1672429342200&key=GRP> *From: *Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> *Date: *Monday, February 13, 2023 at 7:51 PM *To: *Susan Brown <sbrown(a)uoguelph.ca> *Cc: *Janelle Jenstad <jenstad(a)uvic.ca>, Bauman, Syd < s.bauman(a)northeastern.edu> *Subject: *Re: TEI Technical F2F in Guelph; May 7-9 *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp(a)uoguelph.ca Hi Susan (cc: Janelle and Syd), I'm circling back to this with some questions from the TEI Technical Council about arrangements for our May meeting. I know that you were investigating blocking some rooms for our group, so here are some questions: - Is it generally okay for us to book our own accommodations at the hotels you mentioned? - Should we wait until you've got things arranged with the Delta and/or Days Inn to book accommodations? - We are also wondering about the two events preceding, intersecting, and following these dates for our Council sessions. Would it be okay for Council members come early for the LINCS Project conference <https://lincsproject.ca/events/making-links-2023/> (which starts May 5, so maybe *arrive on May 4)?* - And would it be okay for our TEI people to stay through the end of DH@Guelph <https://www.uoguelph.ca/arts/dhguelph/summer2023> (which runs to May 9, so I imagine they'd want to *leave on May 10?) *Some may be interested in proposing workshops or just being generally part of all the DH fun.) Thanks very much, and we're all really looking forward to the big events in Guelph! Elisa On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 11:45 AM Beshero-Bondar, Elisa Eileen <eeb4(a)psu.edu> wrote: Hi Susan, Yes, we’d be wanting to work for the full day starting in May 7, so we imagine arrivals to Guelph on May 6. Thanks, Elisa Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD (she/they) Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Typeset by hand on my iPhone On Dec 28, 2022, at 8:19 AM, Susan Brown <sbrown(a)uoguelph.ca> wrote: Hi Elisa, Yes, both the Days Inn and the Delta are easy walking distance to campus. I’m arranging for a block of rooms at Days Inn as well. And if the weather is decent then it’s a pleasant walk down the hill and across the river into town for more restaurants. Can I just clarify that you’ll be working on the 7th, i.e. you would like the room block to include the 6th if possible, so that people can arrive the night before? Cheers, Susan On Dec 26, 2022, at 2:23 PM, Beshero-Bondar, Elisa Eileen <eeb4(a)psu.edu> wrote: *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp(a)uoguelph.ca I just looked at a map and saw the Delta and the Days Inn are both super close to the venue! I think either of those would be just perfect for us, and if we're all housed at the Delta that's not a bad thing at all (just a slightly unusual thing)! 🙂 There are some pretty decent restaurants in walking distance too. Council should be pretty happy there! Cheers, and thanks hugely! :-) Elisa Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD (she/they) Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College* *Penn State is located on the ancestral lands of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Lenape, Shawnee, Susquehannock, and Wahzhazhe Nations. Penn State's land grant was funded by the sale of land expropriated from 112 tribal nations in 50 land cessions across 16 states. ------------------------------ *From:* Beshero-Bondar, Elisa Eileen <eeb4(a)psu.edu> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2022 3:13 pm *To:* Susan Brown <sbrown(a)uoguelph.ca>; Elisa Beshero-Bondar < ebbondar(a)gmail.com> *Cc:* Janelle Jenstad <jenstad(a)uvic.ca>; Kimberley Martin < kmarti20(a)uoguelph.ca> *Subject:* Re: TEI Technical F2F in Guelph; May 7-9 Thanks, Susan! I don't think we need to prioritize actually housing us all together: we're more used to finding our own spaces individually or in small groups. I think an hour's walk is likely also to be a bit much for the group—unless there's transit to shorten the commute to THINC. I think most of us have booked maybe at most 20-minutes walk from the Council meeting venue. Maybe worth mentioning: We *do* tend to meet over long days—say, starting at 9 or 9:30am, breaking for lunch at like 1pm, and then working as late as 5:30 or even 6pm, then exploring around for dinner. Is it okay for us to take over the THINC lab for those unstructured lengths of time? I think after all the *togetherness* of a long Council day, we don't necessarily *need* to be all staying in the same place...though hotel discounts are definitely likely to help us all with making our arrangements! Cheers, Elisa Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD (she/they) Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College* *Penn State is located on the ancestral lands of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Lenape, Shawnee, Susquehannock, and Wahzhazhe Nations. Penn State's land grant was funded by the sale of land expropriated from 112 tribal nations in 50 land cessions across 16 states. ------------------------------ *From:* Susan Brown <sbrown(a)uoguelph.ca> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 December 2022 3:06 pm *To:* Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> *Cc:* Janelle Jenstad <jenstad(a)uvic.ca>; Beshero-Bondar, Elisa Eileen < eeb4(a)psu.edu>; Kimberley Martin <kmarti20(a)uoguelph.ca> *Subject:* Re: TEI Technical F2F in Guelph; May 7-9 Hi Elisa, We also know of some good air bnbs that house largish groups of people if there’s an interest in that. All would require that someone have. A rental car or that people would be happy to walk 45-60 minutes. Cheers Susan Sent from my phone On Dec 25, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> wrote: *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp(a)uoguelph.ca Thank you so much for investigating all this, Susan! Working at the THINC Lab sounds perfect for Council. We haven’t usually all stayed in the same place but it’s very nice to have a nice discounted hotel arrangement for the group—that was super helpful of you to investigate! Cheers and happy holidays! Elisa Typeset by hand on my iPhone On Dec 24, 2022, at 11:44 PM, Susan Brown <sbrown(a)uoguelph.ca> wrote: Dear Janelle and Elisa, We’re delighted that the TEI Technical Council will meet in Guelph in May. The THINC Lab should accommodate your needs well (multiple white boards and a touch screen monitor, lots of plugs. We had some difficulty getting in touch with the right person for the Delta but we have been told that there should be no trouble securing a discounted block of rooms for your group, so we’ll be in touch once we hear back with the details. It will be terrific to have you folks here! Stay tuned for more details on both the conference and the workshops – we’ll be putting out a call for proposals for the latter very soon, as well as a CFP for the conference. All the best for the holidays and the new year! Susan *From: *Janelle Jenstad <jenstad(a)uvic.ca> *Date: *Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:53 PM *To: *Susan Brown <sbrown(a)uoguelph.ca>, Kimberley Martin < kmarti20(a)uoguelph.ca> *Cc: *'eeb4(a)psu.edu' <eeb4(a)psu.edu> *Subject: *TEI Technical F2F in Guelph; May 7-9 *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp(a)uoguelph.ca Dear Susan and Kim, TEI Technical Council has conferred, and we gratefully accept your very kind and practical offer to host us in Guelph. We are 12 in total, and have settled on May 7-9th as the most convenient dates. If the THINC Lab is available, it would be a superb space for us to meet. If not, our main need is a room with tables, chairs, good internet and lots of plug points. A white/chalk board would not go amiss, and windows are always nice. In other words, a standard university meeting room or classroom will also be just fine. Elisa Beshero-Bondar (cc’d on this email) is the Council Chair in 2023. I’ve offered to do the local organizing (ground transportation, hotel, restaurant recommendations) and to liaise with you folks in Guelph. I know that Kim has already put out feelers to the Delta hotel in Guelph. As soon as you hear back, Kim, please send me the contact. If you arrange a conference discount for LINCS, perhaps Council could ride your coat-tails, if that’s not too much to ask. I expect that some of our numbers will want to propose papers for the LINCS conference, and others may wish to stay on for the final three days of DH@Guelph. So your invitation will facilitate some wonderful synergies and plenty of opportunities for TEI and linked data conversations to happen. Thanks for thinking of this brilliant solution not just to my travel dilemma but also to Council’s regular quest for a host! With good wishes, Janelle Janelle Jenstad (she/her) Professor, Department of English, University of Victoria <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.…> Traditional territory of the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples – the Songhees, Esquimalt and W̱SÁNEĆ Co-Coordinating Editor, Digital Renaissance Editions <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdigitalre…>, the New Internet Shakespeare Editions, and the MoEML Mayoral Shows Anthology Director, Map of Early Modern London <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmapoflond…>; Director, Linked Early Modern Drama Online <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flemdo.uvi…> Co-Applicant, *The Endings Project* Email: jenstad(a)uvic.ca, lemdo(a)uvic.ca, or london(a)uvic.ca -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org

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Next Stylesheets meeting
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 13 Feb '23

13 Feb '23

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting was scheduled for February 23rd, but I wouldn’t be able to attend. My proposal (if there is no opposition) is for the next two meetings to be put off for a week , so we will meet, at the same time, on March 2nd (for the February meeting) and on March 30th (for the March meeting). The agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_l_MZ6M2lxhE2qtH6QUkZVxo0-OQrNgRhOnpaU…> already has one item form the Council meeting. So if I don’t hear voices against moving the meeting, I will make the necessary changes in our calendar (and send the reminders closer to the date of the meeting). Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Stylesheets Group meeting today
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 26 Jan '23

26 Jan '23

Dear all, The Stylesheets Group is meeting today (January 26th) at 19:00Z (11:00 PST. 14:00 EST, 20:00 CET). This is the proposed agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_l_MZ6M2lxhE2qtH6QUkZVxo0-OQrNgRhOnpaU…> for today. Depending on the number of participants in the meeting, we could tackle some of the atop-related discussions (because it’s hard to find time in the TEI-C meeting to address them). So, if you think that the Stylesheets Meeting is not the right space for this, I encourage you to leave a comment in the scratchpad saying so (in particular if you cannot make it to the meeting). See you later, Helena [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Next Stylesheets meeting: January 26th
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 15 Jan '23

15 Jan '23

Dear all, Taking into consideration the results of the poll, the next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Thursday January 26th at 19:00Z (11:00 PST, 14:00 EST, 20:00 CET). Until a change is required, Stylesheets meetings will thus be scheduled on the fourth Thursday of each month at that time. I haven’t done the agenda yet, but the scratchpad is ready, so feel free to add any items you want to discuss in the next meeting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_l_MZ6M2lxhE2qtH6QUkZVxo0-OQrNgRhOnpaU… Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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TEI Technical Council Meeting Tomorrow: Friday January 13
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 12 Jan '23

12 Jan '23

Greetings, TEI Council! Just a reminder that we are meeting on Friday January 13 at 6:30am PST / 9:30am EST / 2:30pm UTC / 3:30pm CET. The Zoom link (and passcode "tei") are in the Google Doc as usual! https://docs.google.com/document/d/17MP9WkNbI5MEsl0SD4VrR-nx37VclG3ZFoFhLBx… See you tomorrow! Cheers, Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org

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Next Stylesheets meeting in ~1h15
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 05 Jan '23

05 Jan '23

Hello! The next Stylesheets meeting will take place today at 15.30Z (8.30 PDT, 11.30 EDT, 17.30 CEST). Here is the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> (the Zoom link will be added before the scheduled time). See you soon! H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Next Council Meetings Scheduled: Second Fridays, Jan - April 2023
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 30 Dec '22

30 Dec '22

Greetings, Council! We've now heard from each of you and we have a new meeting time for at least the next four months: *the second Friday of each month* *(starting Friday January 13)*: 6:30 - 8am PT | 9:30 - 11am ET | 2:30 - 4pm UTC | 3:30 - 5PM CET. I've plugged these into the TEI-C Google Calendar (through August, though we will revisit the times in April in case we need to change them). And we have a new Council Zoom meeting room that I'll circulate with the January agenda. Happy New Year! Elisa On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 3:36 PM Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear friends, > For those new to the TEI Technical Council, we maintain a tradition of > meeting for *90 minutes in the second week of each month*. It’s now time > to set a regular meeting time in our calendar that works for all of us in > the multiple timezones represented by our 2023 Council. Based on input from > most of you, I’m using When2Meet to help set our new schedule. This > When2Meet poll is based on the week of January 8 - 14, the second week of > January. Before we begin, I ask that you: > > - Please answer the poll to *represent your general availability over > the next few months, through the end of April*. > - Please be sure to *select your timezone* in the dropdown menu on the > poll. > > *Here is the poll: *https://www.when2meet.com/?18064520-EtdUD > > We do need everyone to respond fairly quickly so we can schedule the > January meeting! Can you all please respond to the When2Meet in the next 5 > days, *by December 27*? (We may figure out the meeting dates well before > then if everyone responds quickly.) Thanks, Council! > > If you have trouble with the poll, please reply to this message on the > Council mailing list or send me an e-mail at eeb4(a)psu.edu and let me > know what’s up! We’ll sort it out. > > Thanks, everyone, and happy holidays! See you next year! > Elisa > Chair-elect, TEI Technical Council > -- > Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD > Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of > Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State > Erie, The Behrend College > Development site: https://newtfire.org > -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org

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Scheduling the Next Council Meetings: Jan - April 2023
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 26 Dec '22

26 Dec '22

Dear friends, For those new to the TEI Technical Council, we maintain a tradition of meeting for *90 minutes in the second week of each month*. It’s now time to set a regular meeting time in our calendar that works for all of us in the multiple timezones represented by our 2023 Council. Based on input from most of you, I’m using When2Meet to help set our new schedule. This When2Meet poll is based on the week of January 8 - 14, the second week of January. Before we begin, I ask that you: - Please answer the poll to *represent your general availability over the next few months, through the end of April*. - Please be sure to *select your timezone* in the dropdown menu on the poll. *Here is the poll: *https://www.when2meet.com/?18064520-EtdUD We do need everyone to respond fairly quickly so we can schedule the January meeting! Can you all please respond to the When2Meet in the next 5 days, *by December 27*? (We may figure out the meeting dates well before then if everyone responds quickly.) Thanks, Council! If you have trouble with the poll, please reply to this message on the Council mailing list or send me an e-mail at eeb4(a)psu.edu and let me know what’s up! We’ll sort it out. Thanks, everyone, and happy holidays! See you next year! Elisa Chair-elect, TEI Technical Council -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org

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Next Stylesheets meeting: January 5th
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 26 Dec '22

26 Dec '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Thursday January 5th at 15.30Z (8.30 PDT, 11.30 EDT, 17.30 CEST). This will be the meeting from December 2022. Not all of us were available, but I thought it was better to have a meeting anyway, so that later in the month we can have the January 2023 meeting. My suggestion is to tackle some of the open pull requests, but do not hesitate to add other items to the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>. Wishing you all a happy New Year! H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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pics of Council in Newcastle
by Bauman, Syd 23 Dec '22

23 Dec '22

See https://bauman.zapto.org/~syd/temp/TEItmp/TEI_Council_2022-09/index.html. These are available under CC-BY-SA-4.0. ________________________________

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Change of date: Stylesheets December meeting
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 22 Dec '22

22 Dec '22

Dear all, As discussed in the last Council meeting, the Stylesheets meeting initially scheduled for December 29th will be postponed. I am afraid that some of you might still be on holidays the following week (January 2nd--January 6th) but I was wondering if it would be possible to schedule a meeting anyway. To that end, I am sending you a When2Meet link (an alternative to Doodle that has been suggested by Council members before): https://www.when2meet.com/?18035083-8T5p7 (please, do not forget to select your Time Zone in the dropdown menu). This poll just affects the rescheduling of the December meeting. The meeting times for 2023 will be revisited soon (so expect a new poll in a few days). Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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list of Brown lists
by Bauman, Syd 08 Dec '22

08 Dec '22

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Call in 30 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Dec '22

08 Dec '22

Dear all, Our call starts in 30 minutes https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LOLK_k75_mDU5ZFRZVfUIl8Jqbk3KdkNmsptP5S… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next meeting: Thu, Dec 8
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 07 Dec '22

07 Dec '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting tomorrow, Dec 8, at 8am PST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LOLK_k75_mDU5ZFRZVfUIl8Jqbk3KdkNmsptP5S… The zoom link is in the google doc. Please feel free to add topics that you would like to discuss. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Stylesheets meeting in an hour
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 01 Dec '22

01 Dec '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place at 15.30Z (8.30 PDT, 11.30 EDT, 17.30 CEST). Here is the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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sometimes size does matter
by Bauman, Syd 30 Nov '22

30 Nov '22

I ran a time comparison of make clean validate html-web test exemplars from the released branch on 5 different machines. This was not a rigorous test, more of a semi-controlled casual comparison. The main failure for good control was that (in some cases) there were different error messages, because different systems fail to run certain things in different ways. But on quick check by eye, in no case was this a large contributing factor. (This could be rectified by doing it right, i.e. by doing it in the docker container on each machine. But several of these machines are too old or under-resourced to run docker. I will probably do the docker test on the 3 fastest of them some day.) The other control failure is that although I quit most other running programs (except, of course, Emacs, as I was running the build in Emacs, and did not check that it was the same version of Emacs), I did not check for running background daemons, etc. In any case, the results follow. Only the top one runs MacOS, all others run Ubuntu or Lubuntu. 2010 MacBook Air, Core 2 Duo @ 1.6 GHz: 28:17.1 Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 11e, Core M-5Y10c @ 2.0 GHz: 12:48.5 2013 MacBook Pro, Core i5-4258U @ 2.4 GHz: 8:04.5 i7-4790K @ 4.0 GHz: 4:09.7 i9-13900K @ 1.1 & 3.0 GHz: 1:30.6 (Note: The i9 seems to have some cores that run at ~1.1 GHz, and others that run at 3 GHz.) Thus the fastest machine is ~18.6 times faster than the slowest.

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Welcome Joey
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 24 Nov '22

24 Nov '22

Dear Joey, Welcome to the TEI Technical Council! We are looking forward to working together. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next Stylesheets meeting: December 1st
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 22 Nov '22

22 Nov '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Thursday December 1st at 15.30Z (8.30 PDT, 11.30 EDT, 17.30 CEST). We should dedicate some minutes to discuss the oXygen plugin. I seem to remember that in the Council meeting we agreed to continue the discussion during this meeting (it’s not explicit in the minutes, so correct me if I am wrong). Afterwards, we will tackle some issues that need discussion. As always, do not hesitate to add other items to the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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another freakin' inconsistency
by Bauman, Syd 14 Nov '22

14 Nov '22

I am writing here instead of on a Github ticket as this is either a Guidelines issue (if we decide to encode consistently) or a Stylesheets issue (if we decide to present consistently). Sigh. Right now there appear to be roughly 3700 apostrophes in P5.[1] Of those, 3490 are encoded with U+0027 and 241 with U+2019.[2,3] Of course, many of these are inside <egXML>, and thus maybe should be left alone; and some are inside comments (or maybe PIs), and we probably don’t care at all how they are encoded. So, refining the search to exclude those, there are only 2853 apostrophes,[4] of which 2689 are U+0027 and 190 are U+2019.[5,6] Those that are encoded as U+0027 show up as U+0027 in the HTML output of the Guidelines. I think that is a sin. The question is, what do we want to do about this? The following are (roughly) in my order of preference: 1. Change all the apostrophes to U+0027 in the encoded files, and change the Stylesheets to produce U+2019 on output. Update TCW20 or whatever to match. (I.e. to tell people to use U+0027, not U+2019.) 2. Leave the inconsistent encoding, and don’t bother to update the documentation, but change the Stylesheets so the output is more readable. 3. Change all the apostrophes to U+2019 in the encoded files and update documentation to match. (I.e. to tell people to use U+2019, not U+0027.) Also need to add some checks to the build process to prevent U+0027 from slipping in. 4. Change all the apostrophes to U+0027 in the encoded files, but do not change the Stylesheets, thus leaving our output ugly. 5. Leave things alone. commands used [1] egrep -c "[^=]['’][a-z]" P5/p5.xml [2] egrep -c "[^=]'[a-z]" P5/p5.xml [3] egrep -c "[^=]’[a-z]" P5/p5.xml [4] xsel -t -m "//t:*/text()" -v "." -n P5/p5.xml | egrep -c "['’][a-z]" [5] xsel -t -m "//t:*/text()" -v "." -n P5/p5.xml | egrep -c "'[a-z]" [6] xsel -t -m "//t:*/text()" -v "." -n P5/p5.xml | egrep -c "’[a-z]" [7] Note: xsel is an alias for an xmlstarlet sel command that binds “t:” to the TEI namespace. Thus the above 3 commands ignore elements in any other namespace, particularly the TEI Examples namespace.

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November Stylesheets Meeting
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 13 Nov '22

13 Nov '22

Hello! The November Stylesheets meeting was originally scheduled on November 24th but I am in another event during those days and many members of Council might be also celebrating Thanksgiving Day. I was wondering if we could just put it off to one week later and have the meeting on December 1st at the usual time (8:00 PST, 11:00 EST, 16:00 UTC, 17:00 CET). Just in case, I added other options to the Doodle: https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/ejZ645We Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Council meeting in 45 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 10 Nov '22

10 Nov '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our meeting in 45 minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11jqtKjPZN4NLHP26CzyS3ftoypvOe2fmTG5-isK… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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