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Action failure notices
by Hugh Cayless 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

Hi all, You may get notifications about a failed action if you push to dev. Just ignore them. I’m trying to set up a mirroring operation to another repo as part of the work on translations, but it’s not working yet. Hugh

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TEI repo labels
by Bauman, Syd 16 Aug '21

16 Aug '21

We need (at least) 2 more labels for the TEI repo: * a label for discussing labels or other github topics (maybe “meta” or “label”) * a label for queries like the newest issue<https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/2170>. Yes, queries are (in some sense) supposed to be on TEI-L or in the GitHub discussion group thingies<https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/discussions>, but if users put them in as an issue, we should be able to tag it as such. (Or perhaps we should move it to a discussion place and close it?)

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Meeting today
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 12 Aug '21

12 Aug '21

Dear all, our meeting starts in 1 hour. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MjfZaYPjtykz8sP8eMBu9dMAoSsSETSABmmNexG…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MjfZaYPjtykz8sP8eMBu9dMAoSsSETSABmmNexG…> Best, Martina Von: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. August 2021 23:24 An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Betreff: Next meeting: Thu, Aug 12 Dear all, This is the agenda for our next Council meeting on Thursday, August 12 at 10:30am-12:00pm PDT, 1:30pm-3:00pm EDT, 6:30pm-8:00pm BST, 7:30pm-9:00pm CEST: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MjfZaYPjtykz8sP8eMBu9dMAoSsSETSABmmNexG…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MjfZaYPjtykz8sP8eMBu9dMAoSsSETSABmmNexG…> In this meeting we will focus on the upcoming release (next week). Please add issues and open pull requests that need to be discussed and/or approved. According to our schedule, the refrigeration period starts tomorrow. This means that we should not commit major changes to the schema (except work that has been done in a branch, tested and approved); minor changes (wording, typos, examples) are ok. However, as we have a meeting on Thursday where we will certainly discuss some of the open issues, I suggest that we start the refrigeration period after the meeting. Best, Martina

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Next meeting: Thu, Aug 12
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next Council meeting on Thursday, August 12 at 10:30am-12:00pm PDT, 1:30pm-3:00pm EDT, 6:30pm-8:00pm BST, 7:30pm-9:00pm CEST: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MjfZaYPjtykz8sP8eMBu9dMAoSsSETSABmmNexG… In this meeting we will focus on the upcoming release (next week). Please add issues and open pull requests that need to be discussed and/or approved. According to our schedule, the refrigeration period starts tomorrow. This means that we should not commit major changes to the schema (except work that has been done in a branch, tested and approved); minor changes (wording, typos, examples) are ok. However, as we have a meeting on Thursday where we will certainly discuss some of the open issues, I suggest that we start the refrigeration period after the meeting. Best, Martina

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Work on OxGarage
by Peter Stadler 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

Dear all, during some of our last meetings I mentioned that we (at Paderborn University) are in the lucky position to have a skilled developer to work on the OxGarage. Our main focus is to add music (notation) specific conversion capabilities (for a „MEIGarage") but to keep a common code base with the TEI version and to update and enhance it in passing. Last week we had a first meeting between Paderborn and the TEI, namely Hugh Cayless and James Cummings, to discuss our plans. These are still quite technical (i.e. refactoring and restructuring the code base) but do need some organisational backing. In particular, we plan to split the OxGarage repo [1] into separate repos for every module (by keeping the appropriate Git version history for every module). For this, I want to add Anne as a collaborator to our TEIC GitHub organisation and she will add a few repos to our GitHub space. NB: At present, this will not affect our current OxGarage repo, nor the Docker images, nor the OxGarage deployments. You won’t notice anything but an increase of git repos at our TEIC Github :) We are still at a very early stage but will strive to engage with the (developers) community to share the plans and spread the knowledge more widely. This might involve a report to TEI Council during our next virtual f2f?! Hope this report was not too lengthy nor too short? If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to approach Anne (or me) directly. If I do not hear a loud „nay“ until next week, I will take this as approval and will perform the mentioned actions in our GitHub space :) Cheers Peter [1] https://github.com/TEIC/oxgarage

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upcoming Stylesheets meeting
by Bauman, Syd 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

Four of us have explicitly expressed preference (on Slack) to move the Stylesheets meeting of Thu 22 Jul (which is in the middle of ACH) to Thu 29 Jul rather than this coming Thu 15 Jul (or leaving it 22 Jul, which is somewhat of a non-starter). Unless 3 or more object quickly and loudly I am going to make it so.

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Next SVF2F meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Jul '21

08 Jul '21

Dear all, The next SVF2F meeting will take place on October 1 and 2. These are the meeting times (please verify in the google calendar): Friday, Oct 1 13:00-16:00 PST 16:00-19:00 EST North American break-outs Saturday, Oct 2 09:00-12:00 BST 10:00-13:00 CET European break-outs 06:00-10:00 PST 09:00-13:00 EST 14:00-18:00 BST 15:00-19:00 CET Full Council meeting There is already an agenda in case you come across topics that you want to discuss (and add): https://docs.google.com/document/d/18RIt71cxW8ywCI-Km5cDr7gOR3pIwupHxa7VWhd… Best, Martina

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Next release + working groups
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Jul '21

08 Jul '21

Dear all, The next release will take place in about one month+ (refridge 11 Aug; freeze 15 Aug; release 18 Aug). There are a lot of issues labeled with milestone 4.3.0 (https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A%22Gu…) I want to ask you to focus on those issues and tackle as many as we can before refrigeration. If you think you cannot tackle the issue before the next release, please remove the milestone 4.3.0 or change the milestone label to 4.4.0. In our meeting today we discussed to organize small working groups in July/begin of August. This is how it works: if you want to work on an issue (ticket or otherwise) in pairs or a small group, please ask for a potential "buddy" on the mailing list or on Slack to join you. Best, Martina

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Call starts in 1 hour
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Jul '21

08 Jul '21

Dear all, our call starts in one hour. This is the agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_G_4OYWSlU10_LjZCMtrAwSFvyQORwQM7uXik31…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_G_4OYWSlU10_LjZCMtrAwSFvyQORwQM7uXik31…> Best, Martina Von: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) Gesendet: Montag, 5. Juli 2021 09:43 An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Betreff: Call on Thursday, July 8 Dear all, This is the agenda for our next regular Council call on Thursday, July 8 at 10:30am-12:00pm PDT, 1:30pm-3:00pm EDT, 6:30pm-8:00pm BST, 7:30pm-9:00pm CEST https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_G_4OYWSlU10_LjZCMtrAwSFvyQORwQM7uXik31…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_G_4OYWSlU10_LjZCMtrAwSFvyQORwQM7uXik31…> Please add issues you would like to discuss. Best, Martina

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Call on Thursday, July 8
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 05 Jul '21

05 Jul '21

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next regular Council call on Thursday, July 8 at 10:30am-12:00pm PDT, 1:30pm-3:00pm EDT, 6:30pm-8:00pm BST, 7:30pm-9:00pm CEST https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_G_4OYWSlU10_LjZCMtrAwSFvyQORwQM7uXik31… Please add issues you would like to discuss. Best, Martina

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Organisation of SVF2F meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 01 Jul '21

01 Jul '21

Dear all, Since we could not find a suitable date for the SVF2F meeting in July or August, I've set up a new Doodle for September/first half of October. Please fill in your possible dates. https://doodle.com/poll/ptp7wp5w8hes5tpm?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link As always, the North American Group will start Friday evening, the European group will continue on Saturday morning, and we meet all together on Saturday afternoon (for the Europeans) / Saturday morning (for the North Americans). Best, Martina

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Menus. Point release?
by Hugh Cayless 22 Jun '21

22 Jun '21

Hi All, You may or may not have noticed that the menus on the Guidelines pages no longer 100% match the menus on the rest of the website. That's because we've sorted out how to edit the website menus, but the Guidelines menus are static, generated from the website at build time. I've just committed a new version that grabs the menu structure live from the website API and incidentally also dispenses with the old UDM Javascript menu code—in our brave new world, you can do these things exclusively in CSS, so why not? My question is whether this warrants a patch release to get things lined up again. Or really whether this even rises to the level of a patch. Maybe it should stay 4.2.2, just with a different build tag. Or we could just wait until the next release :-). Hugh

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upcoming Stylesheets meeting
by Bauman, Syd 21 Jun '21

21 Jun '21

We are scheduled to hold a Stylesheets meeting this coming Thu 24 Jun at 17:30Z for 1½ hours. That is * 10:30–12:00 PDT * 13:30–15:00 EDT * 18:30–20:00 BST * 19:30–21:00 CEST Martina — will you be sending out a Zoom (or whatever) link or shall I? Proposed agenda: 1. Ticket 444<https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/444>, which we have tried before, but for which Martin & I have a new proposed solution. 2. Ticket 399<https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/399>, which we have tackled in the past only to find there were sequalae to the obvious solution. One possible approach: if we have 6 or more people, we could split into 2 groups and tackle them simultaneously. I like that idea for reasons of efficiency; I don’t like it in that I would feel left out of ½ of the fun.

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Meeting times: Council and Stylesheets call
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 19 Jun '21

19 Jun '21

Dear all, at our last Council meeting we agreed that we want to start with our monthly Council and Stylesheet call 30 minutes earlier. I hope this is also fine for the Council members who were not present at this meeting, and for Martin and Nicholas who regularly attend the Stylesheets meeting. This means that we start at: 10:30am PDT, 1:30pm EDT, 6:30 BST, 7:30pm CEST. Our next Stylesheets call is on Thursday, June 24. Best, Martina

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renamed Jenkins repo branch to main
by Peter Stadler 15 Jun '21

15 Jun '21

Dear all, just a quick note that I changed the branch name from master to main in the Jenkins repo [1]. Additionally, I merged the current dev branch into the (new) main branch since this branch was not building anymore due to an outdated Debian package. housekeeperly greetings Peter [1] https://github.com/TEIC/Jenkins

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handling multiple slots of different durations of service
by Bauman, Syd 14 Jun '21

14 Jun '21

[For Janelle our Nominations Committee representative] Problem: There are 6 positions open on Council, 4 of which are for 3-year terms (the usual), and 2 of which are for 1-year terms (due to recent by-law change). Possible solutions, from the idiotic to the clever (but not necessarily in that order here) include: 1. Elect 6 people, randomly assign who gets 1- and who gets 3-year terms. 2. Hold separate elections in OpaVote (or whatever) as if they were entirely different positions. 3. Just elect 6 people, let Council decide which ones serve for how long. 4. Just elect 6 people, let them fight it out among themselves. 5. Elect 6 people, let them each blindly choose 1- or 3-year term based on ranking 6. Elect 6 people, let them each choose 1- or 3- year term based on ranking in discussion with each other. Since #5 and #6 are my suggestions, I will detail them a bit, below. Worth noting, though, that although #2 has the huge advantage that a nominee could decide in advance that she wants to stand for only 1 year, it simultaneously has the disadvantage that each nominee has to decide in advance how many years he wants to run for, and he might win or lose depending on who else decides to go for that number of years. More importantly, perhaps, running a separate election would likely be a big pain for those running the elections. Because we are using an instant run-off election or ranked-choice voting system, whoever is running the election knows who among the 6 people elected got the most votes, the 2nd most votes, etc. (Even if that information is not shared with the electorate.) Thus for suggestions #5 the highest ranked Councilor-elect gets to choose whether she wants one of the two 1-year or one of the four 3-year terms. Then the 2nd highest is asked if he wants the one remaining 1-year or one of the four remaining 3-year terms OR if he wants one of the two remaining 1-year or four remaining 3-year terms. If any 1-year terms remain, the third ranking is asked to choose. And so on, until there is no longer any choice (because only one term length remains available). In suggestion #5, each Councilor-elect is queried in private (probably via e-mail or phone call) in rank order. Suggestion #6 is the same, but to ask the question of each in order with all 6 of them in the same (virtual) room, so haggling can take place. (So someone who really only wants to commit to 1 year can maybe convince someone higher in the rankings who doesn’t care …)

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Reminder: meeting start in 90 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 10 Jun '21

10 Jun '21

Dear all, please have a look at the agenda for our meeting at 10am-11:30pm PDT/1pm-2:30pm EDT/6pm-7:30pm BST/7pm-8:30pm CEST - which is one hour earlier than usual: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1THZdj_acrUBpBejrs7MJA7eTtDtHGTZqAEa-T8i… Best, Martina

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Tomorrow's meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 09 Jun '21

09 Jun '21

Dear all, For those who didn't see the poll on slack about the meeting times tomorrow: Would it be possible for you to start the meeting an hour earlier (at 10am PDT / 1pm EDT / 6pm BST / 7pm CEST) so that Elisa and Janelle can join the whole meeting? Best, Martina

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Next Council call: June 10
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Jun '21

08 Jun '21

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next Council call on Thursday, June 10 at 11am-12:30pm PDT/2pm-3:30pm EDT/7pm-8:30pm BST/8pm-9:30pm CEST. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1THZdj_acrUBpBejrs7MJA7eTtDtHGTZqAEa-T8i… Since we could not agree on a new date that suits everyone, we will stick with Thursday for the time being. Best, Martina

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Stylesheets meeting?
by Bauman, Syd 27 May '21

27 May '21

Martina — I forgot ask in last e-mail that you let us know where the Stylesheets meeting will take place. If I don't hear from you in ~2 mins (here or Slack), I will post a personal Zoom meeting invitation here.

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Meeting in ~46.3 hours
by Bauman, Syd 27 May '21

27 May '21

We are scheduled for a Stylesheets meeting this coming Thu 27 May, 18:00/19:30Z. That means starting at * 11:00 PDT, * 14:00 EDT, * 19:00 BST, & * 20:00 CEST, and scheduled to run for 1½ hours. Agenda items I would like to cover, other suggestions welcome: * (~4 min) Quick review of P5subset updating plans * (~4 min) report on progress on automation thereof (PS) * (~4 min) Quick report on #496<https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/pull/496> progress (either MH or NC) * (~1 hour) Ticket #327 <https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/pull/327>

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Stylesheets meeting: May 27
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 25 May '21

25 May '21

Dear all, This is the zoom link for our meeting on Thursday, May 27 at 11 am PDT / 2 pm EDT / 7 pm BST / 8 pm CEST: https://zoom.us/j/94174447570?pwd=eGJmNXdkYlZsVWhSMHdNVmdONjZyQT09 And here is a blank google doc to which Syd will hopefully add some exciting issues. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wbrqKTXN3_8cw4VCmn3rEJicu6SnwiDBcKWpwS9… Best, Martina

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xmllint issues
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 23 May '21

23 May '21

Hi all, At the last Stylesheets meeting, we checked how the command "xmllint --format -" that is run when testing the HTML transformations adds the XML declaration to the output file (which was a bit counterproductive because the XSLT code was explicitly demanding the omission of the declaration). Now I’ve run into another problem that is also generated due to the xmllint command: it outputs XML entities when a literal string is expected. I run the script without xmllint and the output is the expected one so it seems that it is another of the modifications done by this program. This issue primarily affects the quotation marks that are added in the HTML output using CSS. See diff: 17c16 < content:"‘"; --- > content:"‘"; 20c19 < content:"’"; --- > content:"’"; 23c22 < content:"“"; --- > content:"“"; 26c25 < content:"“"; My guess is that this wasn’t an issue before because xmllint had as an input a file with the XML declaration. Now it finds a file whose first line is the HTML doctype declaration and thus adds these modifications. Considering that in the HTML transformation Saxon already has the command to indent the results, my proposal is to modify Test/Makefile and delete the "xmllint" command ONLY for the transformations to HTML. Would this be a viable solution? Best, H. Helena Bermúdez Sabel Chercheuse FNS senior Institut des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel

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Doodle for regular Council call
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 13 May '21

13 May '21

Dear all, As discussed during the VF2F meeting, I've set up a doodle to coordinate the meeting times for the monthly Council call for the next couple of month. I'll try again with the second week of each month (2nd Mon/2nd Tue etc.). As soon as we figured out the dates for the Council call, I'll set up a doodle to coordinate the Stylesheets meeting. Please fill in the doodle by 2021-05-17. https://doodle.com/poll/h3v3kwctxztauz9r?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Best, Martina

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This is a test
by Peter Stadler 12 May '21

12 May '21

… as requested by Martina Best Peter

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