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Next meeting
by Hugh Cayless 28 Dec '17

28 Dec '17

Hi All, Hope you're all enjoying some time off. I'd meant to email sooner and suggest that we not hold a December meeting (assuming everyone is on holiday this week), but instead have one in early January. If we're still aiming at an end-of-January timeframe for release, I think we should meet before that. Would Thursday the 4th at 09:00 EST / 14:00 GMT / 15:00 CET work? That would help us get ourselves organized before we have to think about code freezes etc., and I can formally hand over the Chair responsibilities to Martina. Let us know if that data/time is impossible. Happy New Year! Hugh

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<zone>, <path>, and @points; posts
by Syd Bauman 15 Dec '17

15 Dec '17

Martin has updated his thoughts in this ticket, and would like Council's reaction: https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1453#issuecomment-352065610 He asked me to post here because he is no longer allowed to. But it looks like last time I tried to post here (wishing James a happy birthday back on Monday), it took 3 days for my post to reach the list. Has anyone else had trouble posting here, or is it just me? (At first glance it looks like a lot of the discussion about Martina being chair got delayed, as I did not see the discussion here until after it had been posted to TEI-L.)

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Re: [tei-council] No meeting Thursday
by James Cummings 15 Dec '17

15 Dec '17

Sounds good to me. With Georg on the board, conference pending, Graz is taking over the TEI world! (Maybe Graz is the new Oxford of old?) I remembered that I had once added something to the TEI Council FAQ on the role of the Council Chair.... it is at https://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/TEI-Council-FAQ#TEI_Technical_Council_Chair if that helps. I welcome our new Austrian (potential) overlords. James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Peter Stadler <stadler(a)edirom.de> Sent: 08 December 2017 08:33:15 To: TEI Council Subject: Re: [tei-council] No meeting Thursday Hi Martina, great to here! Go Graz :) Cheers Peter > Am 07.12.2017 um 22:59 schrieb Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) <martina.scholger(a)UNI-GRAZ.AT>: > > Hi all, > > I took some time to think about the chair question and I want to express my interest to stand for the chair position. I agree with Magda that Hugh is doing an amazing job, though, and I would be happy too if he is willing to continue. > > Best wishes, > Martina > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org [mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org] Im Auftrag von Elisa Beshero-Bondar > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. November 2017 22:12 > An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > Betreff: Re: [tei-council] No meeting Thursday > > If Martina’s willing to take this on, I agree that she’d certainly be reliable! But for the benefit of continuity and long perspective, if she’s willing, I’d nominate Elli! > > Cheers, > Elisa > -- > Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD > Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division > 150 Finoli Drive > Greensburg, PA 15601 USA > E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > > > > > > >> On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Magdalena Turska <tuurma(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am honestly relieved not to have the call, Victoria was quite a marathon >> and I haven't entirely recovered yet. Joking, it is a great place and it >> was lovely to see you all :-) >> >> As for the chair question and remembering that TEI council had no female >> chair so far (I think)... Since it is a role that requires a certain level >> of orderliness, punctuality and ability to keep discussions on track, >> Martina strikes me as a perfect candidate. Or contrcandidate, since I think >> Hugh is doing an amazing job there and I would be more than happy to leave >> things as they are. >> >> My personal opinion is that TEI is a complicated beast and we should value >> the continuity, experience and wisdom brought to the council by people who >> have been involved in it for longer time. I severely miss Lou or Martin on >> the Council even if we tend to have opposing views from time to time and >> what I miss the most is the broad perspective and critical overview of TEI >> they possess. >> >> Magdalena >> >> On 28 November 2017 at 15:31, Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Given that we just had our face-to-face, I don't think there's any need for >>> a telecon this month, unless anyone objects strongly? >>> >>> I've had no expressions of interest in taking over the Chair position, so >>> also a gentle reminder about that... >>> >>> Hugh >>> -- >>> tei-council mailing list >>> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>> >>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>> >> -- >> tei-council mailing list >> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >> >> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > > -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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how old are you now?
by Syd Bauman 11 Dec '17

11 Dec '17

Hapy birthday, James!

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No meeting Thursday
by Hugh Cayless 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Hi All, Given that we just had our face-to-face, I don't think there's any need for a telecon this month, unless anyone objects strongly? I've had no expressions of interest in taking over the Chair position, so also a gentle reminder about that... Hugh

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stylesheets attack group meeting
by Syd Bauman 07 Dec '17

07 Dec '17

I'm planning on keeping the Stylesheets group in the mode of using work on stylesheets as a self-educational methodology (as opposed to the mission of actually working on stylesheets) for our Dec meeting this coming Thu 12-07. As mentioned at the Council F2F, we would like to re-schedule to Tuesdays at the same time (09:00 ET which is either 13:00Z or 14:00Z) starting with our Jan (or maybe Feb) meeting, and we'll switch our focus then. (Not that it will really mean much. :-) In any case, we are scheduled to meet this Thu 12-07 at 14:00Z (note: time is different than last meeting), i.e.: * 06:00 PST * 09:00 EST * 14:00 GMT <== different than last meeting * 15:00 CET <== different than last meeting I thought it would be useful to try to attack ticket 293 "error showing author etc". Peter will lead us through his suggested fix of 11-10 (which I'm reasonably sure will, in fact, work). Discussion to include the difference between signatures of xs:string, xs:string*, text(), text()*, node(), and node()*. And for extra credit I'll ask what's wrong with the XPath in common/functions.xsl on line 739. :-) Hope all the Americans had a great Thanksgiving, and that everyone else had a great non-holiday Thu 23 Nov. :-)

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Re: [tei-council] stylesheets attack group meeting
by James Cummings 07 Dec '17

07 Dec '17

Just to say I'll either have to miss or be late to this meeting since I've got a meeting at 14:00. If you are still going when I get back to my office, I'll join in. Peter's suggested fix looks like it might work to me but I've always been slightly wary about xsl:sequence in any case. As to what is wrong with https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/blob/dev/common/functions.xsl#L739, oh, oh, I know! Is it that it is testing something which isn't (and has never been) valid TEI P5? Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Syd Bauman <s.bauman(a)northeastern.edu> Sent: 02 December 2017 21:49:53 To: TEI Council; Lou Burnard; Martin Holmes Subject: [tei-council] stylesheets attack group meeting I'm planning on keeping the Stylesheets group in the mode of using work on stylesheets as a self-educational methodology (as opposed to the mission of actually working on stylesheets) for our Dec meeting this coming Thu 12-07. As mentioned at the Council F2F, we would like to re-schedule to Tuesdays at the same time (09:00 ET which is either 13:00Z or 14:00Z) starting with our Jan (or maybe Feb) meeting, and we'll switch our focus then. (Not that it will really mean much. :-) In any case, we are scheduled to meet this Thu 12-07 at 14:00Z (note: time is different than last meeting), i.e.: * 06:00 PST * 09:00 EST * 14:00 GMT <== different than last meeting * 15:00 CET <== different than last meeting I thought it would be useful to try to attack ticket 293 "error showing author etc". Peter will lead us through his suggested fix of 11-10 (which I'm reasonably sure will, in fact, work). Discussion to include the difference between signatures of xs:string, xs:string*, text(), text()*, node(), and node()*. And for extra credit I'll ask what's wrong with the XPath in common/functions.xsl on line 739. :-) Hope all the Americans had a great Thanksgiving, and that everyone else had a great non-holiday Thu 23 Nov. :-) -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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Reimbursement and Per Diem rates for Victoria
by Hugh Cayless 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

The Meals and Incidentals rate for Victoria is $123 (from https://aoprals.state.gov/web920/per_diem_action.asp?MenuHide=1&CountryCode…) of which we can (now) claim 75%, so $92.25. That breaks down like so: #Meals Breakfast: $18.45 Lunch: $25.83 Dinner: $29.52 #Incidentals Morning: $4.62 Afternoon: $6.45 Evening: $7.38 Reimbursement procedures are discussed at https://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Travel_Reimbursement_Procedures_for_Counci… and the form is at http://www.tei-c.org/Admin/TEI_travel_form.pdf. We are asked to submit our reimbursement requests within 30 days of travel. Hugh

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Quick question on zone/@points
by Martin Holmes 04 Dec '17

04 Dec '17

Hi all, I'm working on this ticket: <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1453> where I've been tasked with implementing the new @path attribute for att.coordinated. I have a couple of questions which I've put on the ticket, which really need Council decisions. Could you take a look and add any comments you have? I'll hold off on implementing anything based on the decisions for a week. I'm working in a branch: <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/tree/mdh_path_1453> Cheers, Martin

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Saxon versions
by Syd Bauman 22 Nov '17

22 Nov '17

As part of our investigation in to how far back oXygen will support the new @override-extension-function attr over the @override attr, I was charged (by me) with testing different versions of Saxon. We are hoping somebody will go through the various releases of oXygen to find out what versions of Saxon they are associated with.[1] The oldest version of Saxon 9 I could easily find on Sourceforge was "Saxon-HE 9.2.0.6J from Saxonica". I chose to test by 0.2 increments: 9.2, 9.4, 9.6, and 9.8. If we need the odd decimal increments I'll be happy to do so, but I'm just hoping we don't. For each version of Saxon I tried it with two stylesheets: one in XSLT 2.0 (in which @override is the name of the attr) and one in XSLT 3.0 (in which @override-extension-function is the name of the attr). Each stylesheet defines two <xsl:function>s, one using each attribute. Anyway, here are the results. Not entirely expected, and somewhat disappointing. # --------- saxon version 9.2 using XSLT 2.0 --------- java -jar ~/Downloads/Saxon9.2/saxon9he.jar -s:xslt_attr_test_2.xslt -xsl:xslt_attr_test_2.xslt Error at xsl:function on line 17 column 70 of xslt_attr_test_2.xslt: XTSE0090: Attribute @override-extension-function is not allowed on element <xsl:function> Error at xsl:function on line 17 column 70 of xslt_attr_test_2.xslt: XTSE0090: Attribute @override-extension-function is not allowed on element <xsl:function> Failed to compile stylesheet. 2 errors detected. # --------- saxon version 9.2 using XSLT 3.0 --------- <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>tst3o tst3oef # --------- saxon version 9.4 using XSLT 2.0 --------- Error at xsl:function on line 17 column 70 of xslt_attr_test_2.xslt: XTSE0090: Attribute @override-extension-function is not allowed on element <xsl:function> Error at xsl:function on line 17 column 70 of xslt_attr_test_2.xslt: XTSE0090: Attribute @override-extension-function is not allowed on element <xsl:function> Failed to compile stylesheet. 2 errors detected. # --------- saxon version 9.4 using XSLT 3.0 --------- Transformation failed: Requested feature (XSLT 3.0) requires Saxon-PE # --------- saxon version 9.6 using XSLT 2.0 --------- Error at xsl:function on line 17 column 70 of xslt_attr_test_2.xslt: XTSE0090: Attribute @override-extension-function is not allowed on element <xsl:function> Error at xsl:function on line 17 column 70 of xslt_attr_test_2.xslt: XTSE0090: Attribute @override-extension-function is not allowed on element <xsl:function> Stylesheet compilation failed: 2 errors reported # --------- saxon version 9.6 using XSLT 3.0 --------- Warning: at xsl:function on line 13 column 49 of xslt_attr_test_3.xslt: SXWN9014: The xsl:function/@override attribute is deprecated; use override-extension-function Warning: at xsl:function on line 13 column 49 of xslt_attr_test_3.xslt: SXWN9014: The xsl:function/@override attribute is deprecated; use override-extension-function <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>tst3o tst3oef # --------- saxon version 9.8 using XSLT 2.0 --------- Warning at xsl:function on line 13 column 49 of xslt_attr_test_2.xslt: SXWN9014: The xsl:function/@override attribute is deprecated; use override-extension-function <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>tst2o tst2oef # --------- saxon version 9.8 using XSLT 3.0 --------- Warning at xsl:function on line 13 column 49 of xslt_attr_test_3.xslt: SXWN9014: The xsl:function/@override attribute is deprecated; use override-extension-function <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>tst3o tst3oef appendix: XSLT program (change '%' to either '2' or '3') -------- ---- ------- ------- --- -- ------ --- -- ---- | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> | <xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" | xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" | exclude-result-prefixes="xs" | xmlns:syd="http://www.example.org/syd/ns" | version="%.0"> | | <xsl:template match="/"> | <xsl:value-of select="syd:tst%o()"/> | <xsl:value-of select="syd:tst%oef()"/> | </xsl:template> | | <xsl:function name="syd:tst%o" override="yes"> | <xsl:value-of select="'tst%0'"/> | </xsl:function> | | <xsl:function name="syd:tst%oef" override-extension-function="yes"> | <xsl:value-of select="' tst%oef'"/> | </xsl:function> | | </xsl:stylesheet> [1] I don't know if we can just look this up on the oXygen web site, can post on the oXygen-users mailing list, or need to actually find old versions to check. (In the "Libraries" tab of the "About oXygen" menu.)

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