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Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members
by James Cummings 01 Oct '19

01 Oct '19

I'd be happy to be an informal mentor if any of them wanted to ask questions etc. Happy to continue that after December. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at> Sent: 01 October 2019 13:42 To: Elisa <ebbondar(a)gmail.com>; Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members Good point. And I think we should collect and update our documents on “how to get started” (edit the guidelines, testing, etc.). It’s on the agenda for our next meeting. Best, Martina Von: Elisa <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:16 An: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Cc: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at>; TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members And I am happy to help with mentoring, too. When I spoke of distributing the tasks, I regularly teach students how to get stared with shell commands, git, and GitHub, and I suspect at least a couple of our new people may want an orientation in that. I wonder if it makes sense to divide up some of the orientation tasks among a group of mentors...just thinking out loud. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> | Development site: http://newtfire.org<http://newtfire.org/> Typeset by hand on my iPad On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm happy to help with mentoring On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 8:11 AM Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>> wrote: Hi Elisa, Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors. Best, Martina Von: Elisa <ebbondar(a)gmail.com<mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 An: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org>> Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> | Development site: http://newtfire.org<http://newtfire.org/> Typeset by hand on my iPad On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>> wrote: Dear all, I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members. Best, Martina _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Stylesheets apologies
by Raffaele Viglianti 01 Oct '19

01 Oct '19

Hello, I see on the calendar that there's a stylesheets meeting in one hour. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it as I got delayed this morning. Raff

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Zenodo
by Peter Stadler 25 Sep '19

25 Sep '19

Hi all, having a long train ride home from Graz I was looking into our TEI Zenodo publications of the Guidelines. Since we decided that we wanted all our published releases to show up at Zenodo and because these are quite a few I decided to write a little script rather than doing those uploads manually. I want to document here what I tested and what I’m about to do so you can stop me if it’s mad or something is missing. (BTW, Zenodo has a sandbox where I was testing my scripts) #1 I have not found a way to directly upload to Zenodo from an URL so first I needed to download all the zip archives from Sourceforge (GitHub only has releases from 2.9.0 onwards) to my local machine #2 I wanted to use the HTML readme files we already have to use them as zenodo description (find them at https://www.tei-c.org/Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc/ <https://www.tei-c.org/Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc/>) but needed to get rid of the HTML header etc. I was doing this with XSLT, see https://gist.github.com/peterstadler/a33df4f7cb3f1234c8f15d73a080a192 <https://gist.github.com/peterstadler/a33df4f7cb3f1234c8f15d73a080a192> #3 needed to rename some of the readme files to get proper three digit version numbers #4 create a python script for adding our releases to zenodo, see https://gist.github.com/peterstadler/79d402bb989c8a066b482381979557a3 <https://gist.github.com/peterstadler/79d402bb989c8a066b482381979557a3> The whole process works quite nicely but will need some manual tweaking (of e.g. dates) afterwards (once I move from the sandbox to the real system). Because I will need to call the zenodo support after the ingestion to fix the sort order, I want to be sure that I have everything. NB: all the metadata can be changed afterwards but the files may not be touched anymore. Every new upload than creates a new version which will show up as the latest(!) So here are some questions: a) At Sourceforge there is a release 0.9 while in the readme there is a 0.6 (but not vice versa). Is this just a typo somewhere and do these releases belong together?! b) There is some gap between 0.6 and 0.9 (or 1.0) and before 0.2.1. Does anyone have more releases anywhere? c) release notes are missing for 0.2.1 and 1.4.1 Many thanks for reading until the end Best Peter

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Per diem Graz
by Raffaele Viglianti 24 Sep '19

24 Sep '19

Dear all, Since it's always a bit complicated to figure out the per diem from the state department website, here is the breakdown: Meals and Incidentals rate for Graz, Austria is $143 ( https://aoprals.state.gov/web920/per_diem_action.asp?MenuHide=1&CountryCode… ) The breakdown is as follows. Breakfast: 21 Lunch: 36 Dinner: 57 Incidentals: 29 (https://aoprals.state.gov/content.asp?content_id=114&menu_id=75) While I'm at it, here's the link to the reimbursement policies: https://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Travel_Reimbursement_Procedures_for_Counci… . Hope you all had an enjoyable trip back! Thanks Martina for being such a wonderful host and thanks to both you and Walter for a top notch conference! All best, Raff

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Agenda for IG meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 19 Sep '19

19 Sep '19

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WUV_rSQc2E6erCrKDWR6smbr5TAkw08tBiKw5B6… Mag. Dr.phil. Martina Scholger Zentrum für Informationsmodellierung - Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities Elisabethstraße 59/III 8010 Graz Austria martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> https://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<https://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | https://gams.uni.graz.at<https://gams.uni.graz.at/> Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://i-d-e.de<https://i-d-e.de/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://tei-c.org

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Re: [Tei-council] Stylesheets now on the website
by James Cummings 19 Sep '19

19 Sep '19

That documentation at the main URL is quite out of date (Still lists oxford's OxGarage for example). We should update it at some point to mention the more distributed infrastructure, docker containers, etc. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Martin Holmes <mholmes(a)uvic.ca> Sent: 18 September 2019 22:01 To: Peter Stadler <pstadler(a)mail.uni-paderborn.de> Cc: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Stylesheets now on the website I think someone probably just went and did it manually. I bet Hugh's done it the last few times. Cheers, Martin On 2019-09-18 3:08 p.m., Peter Stadler wrote: > Hi Martin, > > I really believed that releasing the Stylesheets along with the > documentation was part of our standard release procedure. Yet, looking > at http://teic.github.io/TCW/tcw22.html and > https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/blob/dev/P5/Utilities/tei-install.sh I can > not find any evidence. I thought it would be handled by running > `tei-install.sh --package=Stylesheets …` but there is no case for the > Stylesheets in the `case` statement (see > https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/blob/95570777499be3438a12f47739099b70e2607d84/P…) > > We should probably add it there but I wonder how the Stylesheets were > released on our server before? > > Best > Peter > > >> Am 18.09.2019 um 08:06 schrieb Martin Holmes <mholmes(a)uvic.ca >> <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>>: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Luis has put the latest Stylesheets release on the site: >> >> <https://tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-xsl/> >> >> Please take a look and make sure it's all where it's supposed to be. >> We need to have a process in place for making that happen every >> release day, though, preferably without bothering Luis. >> >> Cheers, >> Martin >> _______________________________________________ >> Tei-council mailing list >> Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org <mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Stylesheets now on the website
by Martin Holmes 18 Sep '19

18 Sep '19

Hi all, Luis has put the latest Stylesheets release on the site: <https://tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-xsl/> Please take a look and make sure it's all where it's supposed to be. We need to have a process in place for making that happen every release day, though, preferably without bothering Luis. Cheers, Martin

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Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement
by James Cummings 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Raff, It was the word 'currently' which for some reason made me think it was on a road map or something. ;-) Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07:33 PM To: James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement James, I would like to support RelaxNG, mostly because MEI can't shake it off yet and I'd like this to work for MEI customizations too. BUT I also don't want to make promises one way or another, so I'll adjust that part. Raff On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:16 PM James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk<mailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk>> wrote: Do we have plans for it to support RelaxNG? Or are we using it as a way to help people decide to move to Pure ODD. The latter seems a defensible reason to me and means Raff doesn't need to write ability to cope with Relax NG. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk<mailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk> Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org>> on behalf of Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>> Sent: 16 September 2019 13:02 To: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com>> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org>> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement Hi Raff, My suggestion is just to reverse the order of the 2nd and 3rd sentences like this: The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Cheers, Elisa On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 12:28 PM Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com>> wrote: Wordsmithing much appreciated! I figure Martina would send this. Dear TEI-L The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ The software is currently in beta and we invite the TEI community to try it out and report issues on the GitHub repository https://github.com/teic/romajs Please note that Roma beta currently only supports pure ODD and uploading customizations with RelaxNG content models will fail. There is also no support yet for @source attributes so all customizations will start from the latest stable version of the TEI. This will be addressed in the future. Roma "classic" will remain available at https://roma.tei-c.org/ until the new version reaches a more stable and complete status, at which point it will be replaced. After that, we plan to keep it available at a different address but it will not get further updated. If you are at the TEI Conference and Members Meeting in Graz, please come visit Raff's poster about Roma this Thursday Sept 19 to learn more and leave suggestions! _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org<http://newtfire.org/>

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Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement
by James Cummings 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Do we have plans for it to support RelaxNG? Or are we using it as a way to help people decide to move to Pure ODD. The latter seems a defensible reason to me and means Raff doesn't need to write ability to cope with Relax NG. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebb8(a)pitt.edu> Sent: 16 September 2019 13:02 To: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement Hi Raff, My suggestion is just to reverse the order of the 2nd and 3rd sentences like this: The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Cheers, Elisa On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 12:28 PM Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com>> wrote: Wordsmithing much appreciated! I figure Martina would send this. Dear TEI-L The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ The software is currently in beta and we invite the TEI community to try it out and report issues on the GitHub repository https://github.com/teic/romajs Please note that Roma beta currently only supports pure ODD and uploading customizations with RelaxNG content models will fail. There is also no support yet for @source attributes so all customizations will start from the latest stable version of the TEI. This will be addressed in the future. Roma "classic" will remain available at https://roma.tei-c.org/ until the new version reaches a more stable and complete status, at which point it will be replaced. After that, we plan to keep it available at a different address but it will not get further updated. If you are at the TEI Conference and Members Meeting in Graz, please come visit Raff's poster about Roma this Thursday Sept 19 to learn more and leave suggestions! _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org<http://newtfire.org/>

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attending SIGs
by Mylonas, Elli 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Hi all, I asked our fearless leader last night what she would like us to do about SIGs and she suggested that i ask the rest of council. I was wondering who is thinking of going to which SIG if any? Shouldn't we have some Council presence in order to know what is they are thinking about generally? I am thinking about periodicals and if necessary, but could just as well use the time otherwise. many thanks, --elli

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