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Next Weekend's Council F2F: Timing Question
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 25 Jan '21

25 Jan '21

Greetings, Council! Next Saturday, January 30, do we have any plans to meet after the times we posted in our minutes, namely: 06:00–10:00 PST 09:00–13:00 EST 15:00–19:00 CET ? I'm pretty sure not, but wanted to double-check as I'm trying to schedule something. Thanks, Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org

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GitHub PRs
by Bauman, Syd 22 Jan '21

22 Jan '21

Inspired by Nick’s tei_current_assignments.py<https://github.com/npcole/teiutils>, a program that leverages the gitHub API to summarize gitHub issue assignments, I have just spent the entire day trying to write an XSLT program to summarize pull requests. At this point, I have to (at least temporarily) give up. I simply cannot figure out how to get the list of reviewers (those who have been asked to be reviewers, those who have accepted the request to be a reviewer, and those who have submitted reviews) without, at least sometimes, including the OP in that list. (That is, I have yet to figure out an XPath that will select the reviewers without the OP from the JSON-converted-to-XML returned by the “reviews” API call.) If anybody feels like helping me out, I think we would find this a useful utility. To prove the point, I generated one possible useful output (an HTML table) using my current mildly broken code, and went through and fixed the output by hand. (Sigh.) See https://bauman.zapto.org/~syd/temp/4TEICouncil/GHPRs.html. Talk to y’all tomorrow.

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shift of validation need deprecation?
by Bauman, Syd 19 Jan '21

19 Jan '21

I am hoping to close several tickets, including #2062<https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/2062> very soon. This one “needs discussion”, IMHO, only on the issue of whether or not deprecation is required. Could folks weigh in on the ticket, please? Issue: the @key attribute of <specDesc> is optional in the schema, but required by the Stylesheets. The request is to require it in the schema, too. Decision (unilateral, by me): yes, we should make @key of <specDesc> required by the schema. Question: Do we have to provide deprecation for this change? Discussion 1: The <specDesc> element “indicates that a description of the specified element or class should be included at this point within a document”. The @key attribute is the only mechanism by which the element or class you want to be included can be indicated. Therefore a <specDesc> without a @key is not doing what it is supposed to do. Currently, a <specDesc> without a @key passes validation, but then when processed by the Stylesheets the message “ERROR: no key attribute on specDesc” is generated (by Stylesheets/common/common_tagdocs.xsl); processing continues, and the spot where the @keyless <specDesc> occurred is simply blank in the output HTML. Discussion 2: We have decided in the past that, in general, changes that break backward compatibility should be deprecated. (I.e., users should get a warning, not an error, for 6 months to 2 years before the feature is changed to an error.) My opinion (on the question “Do we have to provide deprecation for this change?”): Emphatically not, this is a corrigible error. The change only effects when the user gets an error message, not if. One of the main reasons to have schema validation is to catch errors before you get to the processing stage. Discussion 3: One (especially a new member of Council) may well ask, why did I even bother raising this question? The answer is an abundance of caution. The question of whether or not a change need be deprecated is often an issue with disagreement within Council. I have a (well deserved) reputation for having a high threshold for requiring deprecation; others (including Peter and Martin) have a reputation for a much lower threshold. Thus it makes sense to make sure that I am not the only one who thinks this does not need deprecation.

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tei_customization the shunned step child
by Bauman, Syd 18 Jan '21

18 Jan '21

Is there a reason that tei_customization.rn[cg] are not showing up in https://jenkins.tei-c.org/job/TEIP5-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/P5/rel… Am I looking in the wrong place? BTW, where in the lastSuccessfulBuild hierarchy does one look for the .isosch files?

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Meeting in 25 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Von: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) Gesendet: Montag, 11. Jänner 2021 23:25 An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Betreff: Next Council meeting: Jan 14 Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Thursday, Jan 14 at 11am-12:30pm PST/2pm-3:30pm EST/7pm-8:30pm GMT/8pm-9:30pm CET (please double check the meeting times in the google calendar): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ofn0oIgmP5yyuCCfu4NF0Jw8lmNRMN44FN8gwsc…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ofn0oIgmP5yyuCCfu4NF0Jw8lmNRMN44FN8gwsc…> Please add topic that you would like to discuss. The zoom link is in the google doc. Best, Martina

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Next Council meeting: Jan 14
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Thursday, Jan 14 at 11am-12:30pm PST/2pm-3:30pm EST/7pm-8:30pm GMT/8pm-9:30pm CET (please double check the meeting times in the google calendar): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ofn0oIgmP5yyuCCfu4NF0Jw8lmNRMN44FN8gwsc… Please add topic that you would like to discuss. The zoom link is in the google doc. Best, Martina

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Stylesheets - new meeting times
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

Dear all, The cooperative Stylesheets meeting takes place every fourth Thursday of the month (two weeks after the regular Council meeting) from 11am-12:30pm PST/2pm-3:30pm EST/8pm-9:30pm CET. The first meeting will be on Thursday, January 28. Please cross-check the meeting times in the Google Calendar. With best wishes for 2021! Martina

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Dec 20 ticket assignments
by Bauman, Syd 03 Jan '21

03 Jan '21

Finally got to it, sorry. Let me know if you are interested in my litany of excuses … 🙂 I left TEI #2073 and Stylesheets #480 unassigned, as they are blocked by another ticket. (They are the 2nd and 3rd parts of the 3 step sequence for the examples: change the content model (#2072), change the processing (#480), actually change the use of the element (#2073).) Number of tickets of current and recent Council members, loosely defined (TEI then Stylesheets): Syd Bauman = sydb 42 14 Elisa Beshero-Bondar = ebeshero 23 06 Vanessa Bigot_Juloux = vbigot-juloux 02 00 Meaghan Brown = MegJBrown 10 01 Loub Burnard = lb42 01 00 Hugh Cayless = hcayless 21 12 Nicholas Cole = npcole 13 07 James Cummings = jamescummings 05 03 Martin Holmes = martindholmes 08 13 Janelle Jenstad = JanelleJenstad 02 00 Jessica_H. Lu = lujessica 10 03 Elli Mylonas = emylonas 02 01 Helena Bermúdez_Sabel = HelanaSabel 02 00 Martina Scholger = martinascholger 18 03 Peter Stadler = peterstadler 17 09 Sarah Stanley = scstanley7 00 00 Magdalena Turska = tuurma 18 02 Raffaele Viglianti = raffazizzi 18 03 BTW, if you want to quickly see how many tickets are assigned to each GitHub user that has tickets assigned, try out Nick’s clever new tool. See https://github.com/npcole/teiutils. If you have Python 3.8 installed you can just issue python3.8 teiutils/bin/tei_current_assignments.py, and presto! P.S. HelenaSabel is now a member of TEIC on GitHub. I only auto-added her to the TEI Council group. Can she add herself to other teams as she wants, or does an owner or team member have to do that for her?

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Martina for Chair!
by Bauman, Syd 03 Jan '21

03 Jan '21

Re: https://tei-c.org/activities/council/ So, first a question: who are you? I realize I am not sure who the webmaster is recently. Anyway, on the Council page the “Term January 2019 through December 2020” section should now be deleted, and the “Chair 2020” after Martina’s name should be changed to “Chair 2021” (or perhaps just “Chair”?). Thank you! P.S. Personally, I am still in favor of having a list of people who have served on the Council in the past, either on this page or pointed to by this page. But I have been saying that for years …

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Reminder: Doodle: Stylesheets meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

Dear all, This is a reminder to fill in the doodle for the monthly Stylesheets meeting: https://doodle.com/poll/6nvai7q622sunhx5?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Options: * 1 week before the Council meeting* (same timeslot), * 1 week after the Council meeting* (same timeslot), * 2 weeks after the Council meeting* (same timeslot), or * some other time (please leave a comment if this is the case) * The regular Council meeting will be held every second Thursday of the month from 11am-12:30pm PST/2pm-3:30pm EST/8pm-9:30pm CET. Best, Martina

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