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Council meeting in 45 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 10 Nov '22

10 Nov '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our meeting in 45 minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11jqtKjPZN4NLHP26CzyS3ftoypvOe2fmTG5-isK… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next meeting: Thu Nov 10
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 09 Nov '22

09 Nov '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Thursday Nov 10 at 8am PST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET https://docs.google.com/document/d/11jqtKjPZN4NLHP26CzyS3ftoypvOe2fmTG5-isK… Please feel free to add more items to the agenda. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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who stays, who goes?
by Bauman, Syd 07 Nov '22

07 Nov '22

According to https://tei-c.org/Activities/Council/, Peter, Elli, and Helena are all departing at the end of next month. Didn’t Helena and Elli get re-elected?

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New Council Chair
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 05 Nov '22

05 Nov '22

Dear Council, After five years as Chair of the Council, it is high time to hand over the "sceptre" to someone else. Elisa has already expressed interest to take over, but as not everyone was present at the last meeting, I would like to encourage everyone who would like to stand for Chair (or propose someone) to let us know before/at the next meeting on Thursday 10 November. Please find more on the Council Chair elections here: https://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=TEI-Council-FAQ#How_is_the_TEI_Techn… I'm happy to answer any questions concerning tasks and workload. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next Stylesheets meeting: October 27th
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 27 Oct '22

27 Oct '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Thursday October 27th at 15.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). The plan for this week is to greenlight some issues that need discussion and then to continue the work we started last month concerning Guidelines-related issues. The agenda last month was motivated by the imminent release, but I think it might be efficient to keep working on those issues: certain discussions concerning the usability of internal links are fresh in our minds (and also the pertinent stylesheets to examine). Nevertheless, do not hesitate to add other items to the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>! Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Release process completed -- freeze lifted
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

Dear all, Sabine, Peter, and I have successfully released the Guidelines 4.5.0 and the Stylesheets 7.54.0. The freeze is lifted, please feel free to push to dev again. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Oxygen plugin status
by Martin Holmes 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Hi All, Martina, Syd and I met this morning and made changes to the Oxygen plugin build to account for jar file changes in the latest Oxygen release. That seems to have worked, in that the bleeding-edge plugin built successfully on Jenkins, we were able to install it on both Oxygen 24.1 and 25, and it mostly works. The build of the stable plugin, which I ran manually on my Jenkins server, also seems to have been successful, but we haven't tested that. I say mostly because we found two different issues which are not directly related to the plugin, and which were broken in previous versions of it. One is that the ODD-to-PDF build fails with an out-of-memory error when transforming tei_all. It's possible that the Oxygen folks have kept it working in their version of the framework by adding additional memory to the transformation, but I can't see how they're doing that, if they are. Anyway, the same transformation works OK for tei_lite.odd, so I don't think this is a major issue. A more serious problem is that the epub transformation fails because a handful of CSS files are in the wrong place relative to how the transformation runs. If you look at the Makefile in the Stylesheets, you can see that it copies CSS files to a second location where the transformation is expecting to find them (a line added to the file by Sebastian in 2014). However, the framework/plugin does not use the Makefile, so that step never happens, and the build fails. The Oxygen folks have fixed this in their version of the framework by patching our XSLT to point to the files where they actually are. That seems sensible to me, and I think what we actually have is a bug in the Stylesheets, where relative paths are used to point to things and not resolved against a solid location, so running the same transformation in different ways expects to find the same files in two different places. The Makefile solution of making copies of them seems a bit like a hack to me. If you are subscribed to the bleeding-edge plugin, you should get updates, and if you make use of it over the next few days and have any problems, do raise an issue on the oxygen-tei repo. I think it would be prudent to fix the Stylesheets bug before the next TEI / Stylesheets release, because a new "stable" version of the plugin will be released at that time, but the bug has been there for a while so it's not crucial. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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Heading for Release 4.5.0 / 7.54.0
by Peter Stadler 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

Dear all, the release team (Martina, Sabine and I) had a very productive morning and pulled in some pending pull requests. There are still various pending PRs but we urge you to keep your hands away from the keyboard since we already entered freeze period (i.e. the real freeze, not the hot freeze!) That said, we’d really appreciate your input and review for/of * https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2359 <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2359> – Dead iso cat * https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2342 <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2342> – measure part of att.ranging * https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/pull/583 <https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/pull/583> – update p5subset The first two might get into the release if approved over the weekend; the third is a necessary update of the file p5subset.xml for the Stylesheets tests. Here we need to look through the changes to the expected results and whether they correctly reflect our intentions. The release team scheduled a meeting for Monday (see Google calendar) where we will go through the weekend-fallout. Additionally, we will then move all open issues and PRs from the current milestones to the next. If you already know about unfinished work regarding your tickets, please feel free to move them to the next milestone yourselves. Have a great weekend Peter

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Re: [Tei-council] Heading for Release 4.5.0 / 7.54.0
by Bauman, Syd 24 Oct '22

24 Oct '22

> Yes to „a quick thumbs up“. Done, PR approved. (Despite the mysterious appearance of roughly 70 extra <rng:define>s for various _[@generate] flavors of model class.) > How would you be doing the task of updating p5subset.xml? Ummm … in dev branch without a PR, and without asking someone else to do the hard part. (That last is not a serious complaint, BTW … I realize you are working on a release and am happy to have some of the work off-loaded to me. But you did ask.) ________________________________ Yes to „a quick thumbs up“. I created a PR by pulling in the new p5subset.xml and "fixing“ the tests by simply copying from actual-results to expected results where necessary. So the intellectual task is to check whether these changes (to the expected-results in the PR) are indeed expected or whether they reveal some issues. How would you be doing the task of updating p5subset.xml?

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Oxygen plugin update
by Martin Holmes 17 Oct '22

17 Oct '22

Hi all, It turns out that we can't just adopt the new framework files provided by Radu. What we need to do is to compare each feature/transformation in the three current framework files with the new framework files, and figure out how to update each of our configurations based on the Oxygen ones; I'm really not sure what that will involve, and I don't have time to do it now, so I think it's time for Council to step in on this ticket: <https://github.com/TEIC/oxygen-tei/issues/27> I'm going to tentatively schedule some time next Friday to look at this if no-one else is interested, but until then I won't really be able to work on it, so be aware that if you update to Oxygen 25 and you're subscribed to the stable or bleeding-edge plugin, things may break. We might want to warn users too through TEI-L. I thought we had managed to convince the Oxygen team that we really need plenty of warning when they're going to release a new version that will break things for us, but they don't seem to have got the message. It's not really in their interest, of course -- our plugin enables people to keep using old Oxygen versions and still have up-to-date TEI and Stylesheets, so I can see how that might not be something they're too keen on. But we also have mutual interests that are not being properly tended; it makes no sense for Oxygen to release a new version with baked-in TEI 4.4.0 when we're just a couple of weeks away from releasing 4.5.0. I think it would help if Council had a more formal relationship with the Oxygen team and held regular coordination meetings. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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Council call today
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 14 Oct '22

14 Oct '22

Dear all, Our call today starts at 7am PDT / 10am EDT / 3pm BST / 4pm CEST This is the agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m9JRHADVcbk25AVh-SNGLXF4joBFHs3zslHOJS-… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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New Oxygen and Oxygen plugin
by Martin Holmes 14 Oct '22

14 Oct '22

Hi all, We just got notification from Radu that Oxygen 25 will be coming out soon with incompatibilities which will break the plugin functionality with a comment on this ticket yesterday: <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/2251> Then today I see that Oxygen 25 is already out. That means that anyone installing Oxygen 25 who is using EITHER the stable plugin OR the bleeding-edge version will have broken transformations until we get new versions out. Radu has very kindly sent me the new versions of the framework files which he has modified for Oxygen 25, and which will be backwards-compatible with Oxygen 21+, but not with older Oxygen versions. We currently claim that the plugin supports Oxygen 18.1+, but we will have to abandon support for anything before 21. I presume this is OK with everyone; I can't really see any alternative, other than spawning multiple plugin versions for old Oxygen versions, which is impractical. So I propose to make those changes this morning. If anyone objects, please let me know; if anyone would like to be involved, so there's someone else on Council who has their eye on the plugin, give me a shout. I'll wait an hour or two before changing anything so we can do it together if that's useful for anyone. Within the next few hours there should be a new bleeding edge plugin build to test, and I'll first test it with my existing Oxygen 24 then update my 24 to 25 and see if that breaks anything. This is very last-minute, which is not ideal, so I hope nothing does break. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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Next Council call: Friday, Oct 14
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 11 Oct '22

11 Oct '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Friday, Oct 14 at 7am PDT / 10am EDT / 3pm BST/ 4pm CEST. Please feel free to add more topics to the agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m9JRHADVcbk25AVh-SNGLXF4joBFHs3zslHOJS-… The zoom room is linked in the google doc. I've invited Piotr Banski to the meeting - he would like to talk about a Council/Ling SIG liaison. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Refrigeration phase
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 11 Oct '22

11 Oct '22

Dear all, This is a reminder that we have entered the refrigeration phase. This is a phase where we pay special attention to open pull requests and issues that we want to bring into the upcoming release. Please do not commit major changes to the schema (except if they have been tested in a branch, e.g. ab), changes in prose are still ok. Freeze is on Thursday, Oct 20. Freeze means that the release branches are created and that only the release techs should commit to the release branches. The milestone “Guidelines 4.5.0” has 62 open issues (https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A%22Gu…) and “Stylesheets 7.54.0” has 15 open issues https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone… . Please take a look at the list of issues and remove those from the milestone, that you will not implement within the next couple of days. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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OxGarage repo archived
by Peter Stadler 30 Sep '22

30 Sep '22

Dear Councilists, as announced at Newcastle Anne and I were taking last steps towards TEIGarage: * cleaned up issues in the OxGarage repo (at lease two of them were Stylesheets issues so we transferred them there) * added a deprecation notice to the OxGarage GUI * added a deprecation notice to the OxGarage GitHub README * added a deprecation notice to the OxGarage Dockerhub README * deployed TEIGarage at https://teigarage.tei-c.org * … and finally archived the OxGarage repo So, for the time being we might keep both old OxGarage and new TEIGarage running in parallel. Yet, if no errors show up we should simply replace OxGarage with TEIGarage in the near future. Have a great weekend Peter

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Reminder: Stylesheets meeting today
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 29 Sep '22

29 Sep '22

Hello! Our September Stylesheets meting will take place in two hours. Agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Next Stylesheets meeting: September 29th
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 23 Sep '22

23 Sep '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Thursday September 29th at 15.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). You can take a look at the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> here but don’t hesitate to suggest other topics! My plan is to tackle a series of Guidelines-related issues (many of them discussed or opened during our recent F2F meeting). See you all next week! H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Welcome Trisha
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 22 Sep '22

22 Sep '22

Dear Trisha, Congratulations for being elected to the TEI Technical Council and a very warm welcome! I've added you to the Council and Board/Council mailing lists so that you can participate in discussions already now, before your term officially starts in January. You should also have access to the GitHub repository, the Wordpress Website, the Google Calendar, Slack (you already had access), and the google docs folder with meeting minutes/notes etc. I am pleased that you will be able to attend the October meeting where we will assign you a mentor to help you get started. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Updated Travel Reimbursement form
by Hugh Cayless 19 Sep '22

19 Sep '22

Dear All, Those who need to submit a reimbursement form should use the one at https://tei-c.org/tei_travel_form/. The procedures for reimbursement are outlined here: https://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=Travel_Reimbursement_Procedures_for_… (yes, it’s on the wiki). There isn’t a US State Department rate for Newcastle, so may I suggest we pick Glasgow? It seems to me roughly in line with what I paid, when I paid for meals. That would be: Breakfast Lunch Dinner $12 $20 $33 Per Diem is for the days of the Council/Board meetings only, not for the whole conference. You’re better off sending me the form and receipts in digital formats. There is a mailing address on the form, but it will probably be quicker if you submit things electronically. Accounts Payable are usually processed in the last week of every month. Let me know if you have any questions. All the best, Hugh

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Scheduling Stylesheets monthly meeting
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 19 Sep '22

19 Sep '22

Hello! Due to some incompatibilities with the start of a new semester, I am sending a Doodle poll to schedule our monthly Stylesheets meeting. <https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/axv5JXBd>https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/avo7MwXb Best, H. <https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/axv5JXBd> [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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F2F meeting in Newcastle
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 07 Sep '22

07 Sep '22

Dear all, I cannot wait to see you in Newcastle very soon! Below, I summarize the information for our F2F meeting. This is the agenda document where James thankfully added some useful information on the location and meal options. Please feel free to add topics that need discussion, I will finalize the agenda within the next days: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10DkA_AzrT_GoPNOkM6MPl0JABtvYHhkeLu-ns93… The travel information can be found here : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qlYcoDRwhbE5QsH7Jc4m_bZpmnIyYnNOHMtaHDk… Our meeting starts on Sunday, September 11 at 9:30 am (BST) at the Percy Building, room G09: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Percy+Building/@54.9801419,-1.6163724,300… As we want everyone to feel comfortable during the meeting and to reduce the risk of infection I (we) would ask you to test yourself before the meeting (if tests are accessible) and wear masks during the meeting. Have a save trip and see you soon in Newcastle! Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Bounce Messages
by Hugh Cayless 07 Sep '22

07 Sep '22

Looks like all of us who use Gmail had our list membership suspended this morning due to excessive bounces. I’ve gone in an un-suspended folks, but this is probably another signal that we need to consider alternatives. Maybe even different modalities. Modern email is a shitshow, and Gmail may have just decided it didn’t want to deliver a few messages from the ADHO mail server. Note that if you use Gmail, you’ve probably missed some messages. I might suggest we copy any important communications to Slack. And maybe talk about how to proceed in Newcastle. Hugh

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Council Meeting Locations, etc.
by James Cummings 02 Sep '22

02 Sep '22

Hi TEI Technical Council, If it is helpful I have added some information to https://docs.google.com/document/d/10DkA_AzrT_GoPNOkM6MPl0JABtvYHhkeLu-ns93… about the Council meeting locations, meals, etc. We haven't yet settled on evening meal locations. Many Thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities, School of English, Newcastle University In-Person Office Hours: https://jamescummings.youcanbook.me/ Zoom Office Hours: https://jamescummings-zoom.youcanbook.me/

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stylesheets meeting in two hours
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 26 Aug '22

26 Aug '22

Dear all, Reminder of our meeting today. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV… <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Next Stylesheets meeting: August 26th
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 24 Aug '22

24 Aug '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Friday August 26th at 15.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). Concerning the agenda, I will like to discuss whether is worth maintaining epub versions other than epub3, thus, if you have a strong opinion about this and you cannot make it to the meeting, you should leave a comment in the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> (and we would postpone the discussion if it seems that we won’t reach a consensus). If you have other tickets/comments that you would like us to discuss during the meeting, do not hesitate to add them to the agenda. Best, Helena [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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TEI2022 - registration open
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 19 Aug '22

19 Aug '22

Dear all, As you may have noticed the registration for the TEI conference is open at https://conferences.ncl.ac.uk/tei2022/programme/. Please register as soon as possible since the Early Bird conference rates end on Sunday evening. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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call in 20 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 12 Aug '22

12 Aug '22

Dear all, Our call starts in 20 minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vnxoixAw1mLbD1NUSPrnDRJj0fiAQolBJjGVKBF… Best, Martina

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website down
by Bauman, Syd 12 Aug '22

12 Aug '22

Seems the TEI website is down. (I can’t load any pages in a web browser, they time out; also the build process is broken as teiodds.xsl apparently tries to load https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/Exemplars/its.rng.

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Next meeting: Friday, Sept 12
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next Council meeting on Friday, Sept 12 at 7am PDT / 10am EDT / 4pm CEST: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vnxoixAw1mLbD1NUSPrnDRJj0fiAQolBJjGVKBF… Best, Martina

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Conf Tool feature request
by Janelle Jenstad 03 Aug '22

03 Aug '22

Dear Council colleagues, I’m passing on a request from a junior scholar. I wholeheartedly support this person’s desire for a “Mx” option in ConfTool. Dr. and Prof are great gender-neutral options for people with PhDs and/or academic appointments but non-binary folks without those privileges don’t have an option that reflects their identity. I'm very pleased to hear about your goals to make TEI more gender-inclusive. On that note, I'm not sure how involved you are with the Newcastle conference, but when I was submitting my abstract it required an honorific and only gave Ms, Mr, Dr, and Prof as options. I had the same issue with the same conference tool when submitting to SHARP for this year, but they were able to add a custom option after I asked about it. It would be great if Mx was an option going forward! I only bring this up to you now because you mentioned gender inclusivity as a goal of TEI. Can we leave an action item for the next program committee, so they are prompted to add a custom non-binary option to our deployment of ConfTool? Since conference registration is happening now, it might be nice to do it for this year, if it’s possible. With good wishes, Janelle Janelle Jenstad (she/her) Professor, Department of English, University of Victoria<https://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/scene/> Traditional territory of the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples – the Songhees, Esquimalt and W̱SÁNEĆ Co-Coordinating Editor, Digital Renaissance Editions<https://digitalrenaissance.uvic.ca/>, the New Internet Shakespeare Editions, and the MoEML Mayoral Shows Anthology Director, Map of Early Modern London<https://mapoflondon.uvic.ca/>; Director, Linked Early Modern Drama Online<https://lemdo.uvic.ca/> Co-Applicant, The Endings Project Email: jenstad(a)uvic.ca<mailto:jenstad@uvic.ca>, lemdo(a)uvic.ca<mailto:lemdo@uvic.ca>, or london(a)uvic.ca<mailto:london@uvic.ca>

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Stylesheets meeting in an hour
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 22 Jul '22

22 Jul '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will begin in an hour: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV… H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Next stylesheets meeting: July 22nd
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 19 Jul '22

19 Jul '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Friday July 22nd at 15.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). If you have tickets that you would like us to discuss during the meeting, do not hesitate to add them to the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>. Best, Helena [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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next stylesheets meeting: july 22th
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 19 Jul '22

19 Jul '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on July 21st at 15.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). As always, if you have tickets that you would like us to discuss, do not hesitate to add them to the <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>! Best, Helena [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Call in 20 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Jul '22

08 Jul '22

Dear all, Our call starts in 20 minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-c5WIAlm8mzTpbiophrgqdzK8SCkWj6JaSJJvl4… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next meeting: July 8
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 06 Jul '22

06 Jul '22

Dear all, This is the agenda (tbc) for our next meeting on Friday, July 8 at 7am PDT / 10am EDT / 4pm CEST: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-c5WIAlm8mzTpbiophrgqdzK8SCkWj6JaSJJvl4… I'm on the train at the time of our meeting and cannot guarantee that I will have a stable internet connection. Besides, I have to change trains after an hour. Could someone please take over as moderator if I get cut off? Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next Stylesheets meeting: July 1st
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 01 Jul '22

01 Jul '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on July 1st at 16.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). I would like to focus again on cleaning the PRs. I still need to select which ones can be tackled during the meeting (but I will do so before Friday). Nevertheless, if you have tickets that you would like us to discuss, do not hesitate to add them to the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>! Best, Helena [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Current P5 build break
by Martin Holmes 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

HI all, I think the current P5 build break is caused by a Stylesheets bug, and I've raised a ticket here: <https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/556> Might be a good issue for the Stylesheets group to tackle. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------- Humanities Computing and Media Centre University of Victoria mholmes(a)uvic.ca

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Council call started
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

This is the agenda https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cwoNEraVDt2SyQ3-k2JngPKh8m3zIOccQuQD_-X…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cwoNEraVDt2SyQ3-k2JngPKh8m3zIOccQuQD_-X…> Mag. Dr.phil. Martina Scholger Zentrum für Informationsmodellierung - Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities Elisabethstraße 59/III 8010 Graz Austria martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> https://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<https://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | https://gams.uni.graz.at<https://gams.uni.graz.at/> Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://i-d-e.de<https://i-d-e.de/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://tei-c.org

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Next meeting: Fri, June 10
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next Council meeting on Friday, June 10 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cwoNEraVDt2SyQ3-k2JngPKh8m3zIOccQuQD_-X… at 7am PDT / 10am EDT / 4pm CEST Please add more topics that you would like to discuss. Best, Martina

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change date next Stylesheets meeting?
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting is scheduled for June 24th at 16:00Z (17:00 CEST, 8:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT). However, I will be traveling, so I was wondering if it would be possible to move the meeting one week and meet on July 1st instead (same time). If the change is inconvenient, I will send a doodle with more possibilities. All the best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<https://www.unine.ch/>

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Stylesheets meeting in two hours
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 27 May '22

27 May '22

Dear all, Reminder of the meeting will have today at 16.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV… See you in a bit! H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<https://www.unine.ch/>

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Next Stylesheets meeting: May 27
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 25 May '22

25 May '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on May 27th at 16.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). The proposed agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> is focused on cleaning up the PRs currently open, but if you have tickets that you would like us to discuss, do not hesitate to add them to the agenda! Best, Helena [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<https://www.unine.ch/>

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gitHelp, again
by Bauman, Syd 14 May '22

14 May '22

I checked out dev branch of the TEI repo, then created a new branch: | $ git status -uno | On branch dev | Your branch is up to date with 'origin/dev'. | | nothing to commit (use -u to show untracked files) | $ git checkout -b sydb_2279 | Switched to a new branch 'sydb_2279' Then I made a bunch of changes, making a few commits. Then I went to push my new branch up so y'all could play with it: | $ git status -uno | On branch sydb_2279 | nothing to commit (use -u to show untracked files) | $ git push -u | Branch 'dev' set up to track remote branch 'dev' from 'origin'. | Branch 'gender' set up to track remote branch 'gender' from 'origin'. | Everything up-to-date Huh? And the sydb_2279 branch is *not* pushed up to gitHub. What gives?

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Next Council meeting: May 13
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 11 May '22

11 May '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for the next Council meeting on Fri May 13 at 7am PDT / 10am EDT / 4pm CEST https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oKYxbGKVXE8u8mRQ5CvSmBA_-gDhBNnkM8XEBAw… Best, Martina

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xenoData users?
by Lou Burnard 11 May '22

11 May '22

a few weeks ago i posted a query about usage of xenoData on tei-l and followed it up with a repeat on twitter. i was a bit surprised to receive absolutely zero response (full disclosure : i did get a reply from m.mueller but not to the question i asked) . so either no one is using this lovely tag or no one wants to admit to it. either of which seems somewhat of a problem. maybe, i thought, maybe the mandarins of the tei council know better? are any of you using it for real in a project?do you know any project which is?

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Next stylesheets meeting: April 22
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 22 Apr '22

22 Apr '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on April 22th at 16.00Z (8.00 PDT, 11.00 EDT, 17.00 CEST). As discussed in the VF2F meeting, we will dedicate a Stylesheets meeting to address the oXygen plugin and its maintenance, and Martin Holmes kindly accepted to walk us though the basics. This introduction will be the main point of the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>. See you all on Friday and good luck to the release techs today! Helena Bermúdez Sabel Chercheuse FNS senior Institut des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel

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Deprecation for ident changes?
by Martin Holmes 22 Apr '22

22 Apr '22

Hi all, OUr LEMDO project got bitten by an unexpected change in the latest TEI release: we have a customization which deletes the Schematron rule which disallows nested ab elements, because we believe they should be nestable. However, the @ident of that rule was changed in the release, so suddenly our customization failed and a pile of files were suddenly invalid. No problem to figure out and fix, but it does show that changing an @ident should be subject to deprecation warnings if we aim not to catch people out with a release. I don't know how that could be done, though. We noticed a bunch of other unexpected changes too, and I was a bit surprised because I subscribe to the bleeding-edge Oxygen plugin so that I get plenty of warning of changes landing in the dev branches. However, I think what has been happening is that a lot of changes have been taking place in feature branches, and then languishing there until the last-minute mad scramble to land them in dev and release branches before the release date. That means that the value of the bleeding-edge plugin as an advance testing mechanism is diminished. Again, not sure what could be done about that. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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altIdent screw up
by Bauman, Syd 21 Apr '22

21 Apr '22

Oh BLEEP! I failed to change the manual deprecation date from "2022-07-14" to "2022-10-21" on the "deprecate_altIdent_in_non-ODD_places" constraint specification (in file P5/Source/Specs/altIdent.xml). Now that we have published 4.4.0 with the “wrong” date I see 3 possible courses of action: 1. Leave things as is, and just act on the deprecation on 2022-07-14. Yes, that makes the deprecation period pretty short, but who uses `<altIdent>` anyway? 2. Do nothing in July. For the _next_ release (call it 4.5.0, as that is likely what it will be) reset the valid until date from 2022-07-14 to a date a few months after the 4.5.0 release. 3. Issue a point release (4.4.1) now that corrects the date to the desired 2022-10-21.

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Freeze lifted
by Raffaele Viglianti 20 Apr '22

20 Apr '22

Dear Council, The release process is completed, feel free to start pushing to dev again! Raff

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Entering Freeze period for v 4.4.0
by Raffaele Viglianti 17 Apr '22

17 Apr '22

Dear, All, I have now created the release branch for version 4.4.0 of the Guidelines (https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/tree/release-4.4.0) and for version 7.53.0 of the Stylesheets ( https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/tree/release-7.53.0) Please refrain from committing anything to dev until the release is completed. If you wish to make changes to the release branches, please notify the release technicians before pushing any change. The technicians are: Janelle Jenstad, Hugh Cayless, Raff Viglianti. Could the Jenkins maintainers add these branches to be built? Thanks everyone! Raff

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release notes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 15 Apr '22

15 Apr '22

Dear all, I made a first draft of the release notes: https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/commit/6f9fd2aef3a1c6403843d1293499960e5d3e8be7 To be continued tomorrow. Best, Martina

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how many namespaces?
by Bauman, Syd 12 Apr '22

12 Apr '22

I added a new routine to TEI/P5/Utilities/ called namespaces.xslt that generates a table that gives you counts of namespace nodes. See https://bauman.zapto.org/~syd/temp/4TEICouncil/namespaces_in_P5.xhtml.

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Call in 25 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Apr '22

08 Apr '22

Here is the agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1raASYeayA9dzeEWcvi1Zk17UGQAoqgnc-W8nbw4… Best, Martina

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Next meeting: April 8
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 06 Apr '22

06 Apr '22

Dear all, Our next meeting is on Friday, April 8 at 7am PDT / 10am EDT / 4pm CEST. Please add open issue/PR's to the agenda that we need to discuss for the release: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1raASYeayA9dzeEWcvi1Zk17UGQAoqgnc-W8nbw4… I'll add to the agenda tomorrow. Best, Martina

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faster testing
by Bauman, Syd 06 Apr '22

06 Apr '22

One of the reasons the test procedure in Stylesheets/Test2/ is dramatically faster than the one in Stylesheets/Test/ is that it is, by default, run in parallel.[1,2] You can also ask the make command to run multiple jobs at once. The switches that control this are --jobs= and --output-sync=. I just tried an experiment, comparing how long it took to run make vs make --jobs=7 --output-sync=lines. (I chose 7 because my system has 8 threads, and I wanted to have some CPU available. What little I have found on the web seems to suggest I may as well go ahead and use 8.) The result was faster, although not even close to 7 times faster: down to 03:32 from 04:36. I compared the output of the 2 commands, and they were identical. On GNU/Linux, at least, the nproc command will tell you how many threads are available. Thus using the command $ make --jobs=`nproc 2>/dev/null || echo 1` -Oline seems to make sense to me. (-O is shorthand for --output-sync=.) It is also possible to get the Makefile to do that on its own. My first thought is that might not be such a good idea, because you may want to run with --jobs=1 in order to force error messages into the right order. (I.e., in case -Oline wasn’t good enough.) I ran the experiment again, this time using --jobs=8 and getting screen captures of the process monitor roughly 40 s after the make command started.[3] The timing results were very similar (down to 03:36 from 04:36), but the order of output lines was different. (Same output; i.e., they were identical after sorting and removing timestamps.) So I think anyone running the Stylesheets test process would do well to use the --jobs switch. You could use any of * -j 8 # if you know you have 8 threads, e.g. * --jobs=`nproc` # if you know the nproc command works on your system * -j `nproc 2> /dev/null || echo 1` # if there is a chance nproc fails, so it defaults to '1' Martina — could you either update the notes we have about updating P5 subset, or remind me where they are and I will? Thanks. Notes [1] ant test runs them in parallel; if you want them in series (likely because the order of messages was confusing when run in parallel) use ant testSeries. [2] There are other reasons, like it is written to be less redundant, and the JVM is only spun up once, rather than once for every test. [3] For evidence as to why --jobs makes make faster, see https://bauman.zapto.org/~syd/temp/4TEICouncil/Screenshot_of_make_process_m… and https://bauman.zapto.org/~syd/temp/4TEICouncil/Screenshot_of_make_-j_proces…

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TEI PR #2204
by Bauman, Syd 03 Apr '22

03 Apr '22

Re: “Confirm with SB that https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2204 is ready to merge.” — agenda from yesterday’s meeting I think I have addressed Magdalena’s (reasonable) question on the PR<https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/2204#pullrequestreview-929550387>. Thus, unless she or someone else disagrees, yes, PR #2204 is, IMHO, ready to merge. And I have just merged dev branch into the issue branch (sydb_issue-2185_URI_spaces).

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Oxygen plugin
by Martin Holmes 01 Apr '22

01 Apr '22

Hi all, I'd like to draw Council's attention to these two tickets: <https://github.com/TEIC/oxygen-tei/issues/54> <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/2251> where two things have happened: 1. As usual, we were caught unawares when Oxygen released an update which broke functionality in the TEI Oxygen plugin version that we maintain. Oxygen maintain their own fork of the plugin repo and up to now, they've been making any necessary changes silently before an Oxygen release; then we realize that something is broken and struggle to catch up. I now have a pull request that I've asked Radu Coravu from Oxygen to review before I merge it, updating the included libs for transformations to take account of log4j changes. For those new to the situation, it's a bit complicated: the Oxygen folks only care about ensuring that the version of the plugin that ships with Oxygen works with the Oxygen version it ships with. However, we have different requirements, because we attempt to maintain support for older versions of Oxygen, so that those who cannot upgrade for some reason are still able to get up-to-date versions of P5, the Stylesheets, and the transformations in their older Oxygen. This means that we can't simply adopt any of the changes that the Oxygen folks make directly into our own branch; that would remove functionality for earlier Oxygen versions. So we have to try to merge the changes carefully. When the pull request is checked and merged, then our bleeding-edge version of the plugin will build, and those of us using it (which I hope is a reasonable subset of the Council) are able to test and make sure nothing is badly broken. We don't have a formal testing procedure, though, especially for older versions of Oxygen, because few of us run older versions. If the bleeding edge version is deemed OK, then Council will need to release the corresponding stable version using the procedure that's normally followed when we do a P5/Stylesheets release. There is a degree of urgency here because currently, anyone who is subscribed to our plugin and has upgraded their Oxygen to the current version will not be able to use any of the transformations, as Laurent discovered. 2. Radu has kindly agreed to raise issues on our plugin repo when they make changes in future, so we can try to avoid this happening again. I think I'm the only one who watches this repo at the moment, which is not really ideal. Cheers, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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VF2F meeting this weekend
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

Dear Council, This is the agenda for our virtual F2F meeting on Friday and Saturday (April 1 and 2): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WhGAcLK0H_xNNPoEECBk9f0eEn-qhSiWfqnhaik… Please feel free to add more topics to the agenda. Meeting times: Friday, Apr 1: North American break-outs The North American group needs to decide whether to start at 12 PDT / 15 EDT or at 13 PDT / 16 EDT (see poll on slack). Saturday, Apr 2: European break-outs 10:00-13:00 CEST Full Council 06:00-10:00 PDT 09:00-13:00 EDT 15:00-19:00 CEST I'll add the table with links to the Guidelines/Stylesheets issues tomorrow. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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@docLang chaining issues
by Lou Burnard 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

And here are my opinions on these questions: >p5subset.xml has all the languages (as it does); customization1.odd specifies >@docLang="en" customization2.odd, which points to customization1.odd, specifies >@docLang="it" What language should the output schema use? Schemas compiled against customization1 will see help popups in English, and those compiled against customization2 will see them in Italian. That is, assuming neither ODD has done anything to remove the relevant components. The languages available from a compiled ODD should presumably be managed in the same way as anything else. So if I delete an English <gloss> in my customization, and then compile that to use as a basis for a further customization, the compiled version will no longer have an English gloss to use, so specifying @docLang='en' won't produce anything. In general specifying @docLang only expresses an output preference; it has nothing to do with determining what components are available from a compiled version of the ODD. 2. Imagine: >customization1.odd modifies an element, replacing the English gloss with >something different. customization2.off specifies @docLang="es" Where should the >gloss be taken from in the output of the chain? I think I already answered that. If "customisation2.off" is using a compiled version of customization1.odd then the spanish gloss will be taken from that, if it's there. >3. Should it be part of the system that you can specify a series of languages in >order of preference, from which text will be taken if something is not available >in the main docLang? Seems like an over-complication. There is a canonical language in which ODD glosses are written, which is currently labelled "en" (unless and until the TEI becomes a purely Chinese -- say -- project). So it is not unreasonable to say if @docLang requests a language that's not available (for whatever reason), a version using the canonical language is the fallback. If you really want to I suppose you could supply multiple values for @docLang to indicate acceptable languages, and then choose whichever comes first on the list, but this seems like over-egging the pudding to me.

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next stylesheets meeting
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 25 Mar '22

25 Mar '22

Hello! On Friday March 25th we have our next Stylesheets meeting. Since our time zones are out of sync this week, I think it might be worth to conduct a vote for the preferred time: the time provided in our Google Calendar might not be what many of us had in mind. - 15h00Z (08:00 Pacific, 11:00 Eastern, 16:00 CET) (time according to our Google Calendar) - 16h00Z (09:00 Pacific, 12:00 Eastern, 17:00 CET) Please find the poll in our #general channel at Slack. The suggested agenda of the meeting is available at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV… Do not hesitate to add other topics! Best, H. Helena Bermúdez Sabel Chercheuse FNS senior Institut des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel

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Stylesheets Task Force Charge
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 23 Mar '22

23 Mar '22

Dear all, Thank you for voting on the Stylesheets Task Force document. The Council now officially charges the Task Force with the implementation. Many thanks to Syd, Martin, and Helena for taking on this task. I added a page in wordpress and linked it from here https://tei-c.org/activities/workgroups/. Speaking of workgroups: can we move TEI Tite and TEI Pointer/Stand-off Markup to "concluded"? Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Vote: Stylesheets Task Force
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 20 Mar '22

20 Mar '22

Dear Council, Please vote (see poll on Slack) on the Stylesheets Task Force document by Monday, March 21. Final version of the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agmGrbR4bvlckabPMrs0U9C0qOe9drlMh6pnCkh… Best, Martina

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TEI Plugin bug: can you help test?`
by Martin Holmes 18 Mar '22

18 Mar '22

Hi all, Oxygen 24.1 ships with Saxon 10 instead of Saxon 9, and our oxygen-tei plugin is expecting Saxon 9. I noticed this when unable to run ODD to RNG transformations with the bleeding-edge plugin in Oxygen this morning. I've raised a bug: https://github.com/TEIC/oxygen-tei/issues/54 and committed a fix which works in Oxygen 24.1, but I'd like to confirm that it doesn't break anything in earlier versions. If you're using Oxygen 24.0 or below, and you're subscribed to the bleeding-edge plugin or willing to subscribe to it from here: <https://jenkins2.tei-c.org/job/oxygen-tei-bleeding/lastSuccessfulBuild/arti…> could you please check that the just-built-and-released version of the plugin: oxygen-tei-4.4.0a-7.53.0a-2022-03-18-105750.zip will correctly build e.g. TEI ODD to RELAX NG? Thanks, Martin -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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Stylesheets task force
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 16 Mar '22

16 Mar '22

Dear all, This is a reminder that proposed changes to the Stylesheets task force document are only possible until Friday, March 18 before 15:00 Z (= 8am PST / 11am EST / 3pm BST / 4pm CEST). The voting starts at 16:00Z (information follows) and ends on Monday, March 21. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agmGrbR4bvlckabPMrs0U9C0qOe9drlMh6pnCkh… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Access to TEI website
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 16 Mar '22

16 Mar '22

Dear Council, You should now all have access to the website and be able to make changes in Wordpress. In case you do not remember your login details, please let me know and I will resend them to you. Best, Martina

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Call in 25 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 11 Mar '22

11 Mar '22

Agenda https://docs.google.com/document/d/13BirfmgG5VlKSXGErr0BQJf82ZremdhksEEuWQV… Best, Martina Von: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. März 2022 07:37 An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Betreff: Next meeting: March 11 Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Friday, March 11. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13BirfmgG5VlKSXGErr0BQJf82ZremdhksEEuWQV… The meeting starts at 7am PST / 10am EST / 3pm BST / 4pm CEST. Please find the zoom link in the google doc. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next meeting: March 11
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 09 Mar '22

09 Mar '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Friday, March 11. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13BirfmgG5VlKSXGErr0BQJf82ZremdhksEEuWQV… The meeting starts at 7am PST / 10am EST / 3pm BST / 4pm CEST. Please find the zoom link in the google doc. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Stylesheets meeting today
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 25 Feb '22

25 Feb '22

Dear all, Our meeting starts in ~ 90 minutes. Please find the zoom link in the Stylesheets Group Scratch Pad: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Out of memory on P5 tests
by Martin Holmes 24 Feb '22

24 Feb '22

Hi all, Today, my Jenkins started to fail on the TEIP5-Test-dev build with an out-of-memory error when running RNV, which I can also reproduce on my desktop: ... java -jar ../Utilities/lib/trang.jar testplus.rng testplus.rnc xmllint --noent --dropdtd testplus.xml | rnv testplus.rnc stdin:1:0: error: out of memory error: invalid input make[1]: *** [Makefile:78: testplus.special] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/mholmes/tei/TEI/P5/Test' make: *** [Makefile:195: test] Error 2 The failure is on line 78 of the Test/Makefile, and it's when testplus.xml is processed through xmllint and passed to rnv for validation against its matching rnc file. It looks like Peter's Jenkins is not suffering from this, while Raff's has not run the job since last August, so something else is problematic there. Can those of you who run the docker instance try running the tests and see what you get? I suspect that the testplus.xml file has just somehow edged over a size threshold and we can work around it by throwing a bit of memory at xmllint or at rnv, but I'd like to get a bit more info first. Cheers, Martin ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day.

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Re: [Tei-council] new Stylesheets meeting time
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 21 Feb '22

21 Feb '22

Dear all, We do have new meeting times for the Stylesheets meeting. I$B!G(Bve modified Syd$B!G(Bs list accordingly (see also google calendar). Times are for Vancouver = New York = London = Berlin * Fri 25 Feb 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00. * Fri 25 Mar 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 15:00 = 16:00, OR * Fri 25 Mar 22 - 09:00 = 12:00 = 16:00 = 17:00.* * Fri 22 Apr 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00. * Fri 27 May 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00. * Fri 24 Jun 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00. * Fri 22 Jul 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00. * Fri 26 Aug 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00. * Fri 23 Sep 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00. * Fri 28 Oct 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00. * Fri 25 Nov 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00 (day after American Thanksgiving)** * Fri 23 Dec 22 - 08:00 = 11:00 = 16:00 = 17:00 (day before Christmas)** * this time is currently in the google calendar ** we should probably reschedule those dates Best, Martina Von: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> Im Auftrag von Bauman, Syd Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2022 04:33 An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Betreff: [Tei-council] new Stylesheets meeting time? By my count we are awaiting responses to the Doodle poll from only three people: Nick Cole, Janelle Jenstadt, and Magdalena Turska. Since there are only 2 timeslots that all 10 of those who have already responded registered a $B!H(Byes$B!I(B, can the three of you make either Fridays at 08:00=16:00 or 08:30=16:30? (Feel free to only fill out those two columns if they are a $B!H(Byes$B!I(B.) That would mean meetings would be as follows, with $B!F-#!G(B used to mean either on the hour or half-past. Times are listed as times for Vancouver = New York = London = Berlin, with UTC in bold. * Fri 25 Feb 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 25 Mar 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 15:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0, OR * Fri 25 Mar 22 - 09:$B-#(B0 = 12:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 22 Apr 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 27 May 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 24 Jun 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 23 Jul 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 26 Aug 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 23 Sep 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 28 Oct 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. * Fri 25 Nov 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0 (day after American Thanksgiving). * Fri 23 Dec 22 - 08:$B-#(B0 = 11:$B-#(B0 = 16:$B-#(B0 = 17:$B-#(B0. Note that there is at least one minor correction here as compared to my previous list.

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Call in 40 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 11 Feb '22

11 Feb '22

Dear all, our call starts in 40 minutes. Link to the agenda doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OMhYS6wSr0z--nVD3njocmGtIjGrq3v2BgTjTsf… Best, Martina Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>

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new Stylesheets meeting time?
by Bauman, Syd 10 Feb '22

10 Feb '22

By my count we are awaiting responses to the Doodle poll from only three people: Nick Cole, Janelle Jenstadt, and Magdalena Turska. Since there are only 2 timeslots that all 10 of those who have already responded registered a “yes”, can the three of you make either Fridays at 08:00=16:00 or 08:30=16:30? (Feel free to only fill out those two columns if they are a “yes”.) That would mean meetings would be as follows, with ‘③’ used to mean either on the hour or half-past. Times are listed as times for Vancouver = New York = London = Berlin, with UTC in bold. * Fri 25 Feb 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 25 Mar 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 15:③0 = 16:③0, OR * Fri 25 Mar 22 ― 09:③0 = 12:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 22 Apr 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 27 May 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 24 Jun 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 23 Jul 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 26 Aug 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 23 Sep 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 28 Oct 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. * Fri 25 Nov 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0 (day after American Thanksgiving). * Fri 23 Dec 22 ― 08:③0 = 11:③0 = 16:③0 = 17:③0. Note that there is at least one minor correction here as compared to my previous list.

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Next meeting: Friday, Feb 11
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 09 Feb '22

09 Feb '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our meeting on Friday at 7am PST / 10am EST / 3pm BST / 4pm CEST: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OMhYS6wSr0z--nVD3njocmGtIjGrq3v2BgTjTsf… Elisa, Sabine, Helena, and Janelle have written the charge for the Stylesheets task force - thank you for that! It would be great if you could have a look at it before our meeting on Friday: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agmGrbR4bvlckabPMrs0U9C0qOe9drlMh6pnCkh…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agmGrbR4bvlckabPMrs0U9C0qOe9drlMh6pnCkh…> Best, Martina

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Reminder: doodle for re-scheduling Stylesheets meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 07 Feb '22

07 Feb '22

Dear all, this is a reminder to fill in the doodle for re-scheduling the Stylesheets meeting - see email from Syd below https://doodle.com/poll/2ft4vhb96tgwf8p9?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link * The Doodle poll is really for every 4th week of every month for at least the 1st part of 2022, not just for the week of Mon 21 Feb 22. * I have included timeslots on Sundays and Saturdays because I do not meeting over the weekend. While I suspect many others will not want to meet over a weekend, I figured there is no way of knowing if we don't ask. * I put the timeslots in as 1 hour each. In truth, we almost always go over an hour, usually to about 1.25 hours or so. I think it is acceptable (but not ideal) to consider yourself available for a TEI Stylesheets meeting at 13:00 even if you have to leave at 14:00 for another meeting. I think we should always aim to have the Stylesheets meeting over in 1.4 hours (84 mins) or less. Best, Martina Von: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> Im Auftrag von Bauman, Syd Gesendet: Montag, 31. Jänner 2022 20:35 An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Betreff: [Tei-council] possibly re-scheduling Stylesheets meeting I asked Doodle.com to send an invite here, but it is still thinking about it 20 mins later. So below is the link to the new poll. As a reminder, we already have a fall-back meeting time (15:00Z on 4th Fri of each month), but Martin Holmes will (for the most part) not be able to join us at that time. Thus an attempt to find another suitable time slot. Notes: * The Doodle poll is really for every 4th week of every month for at least the 1st part of 2022, not just for the week of Mon 21 Feb 22. * I have included timeslots on Sundays and Saturdays because I do not meeting over the weekend. While I suspect many others will not want to meet over a weekend, I figured there is no way of knowing if we don't ask. * I put the timeslots in as 1 hour each. In truth, we almost always go over an hour, usually to about 1.25 hours or so. I think it is acceptable (but not ideal) to consider yourself available for a TEI Stylesheets meeting at 13:00 even if you have to leave at 14:00 for another meeting. I think we should always aim to have the Stylesheets meeting over in 1.4 hours (84 mins) or less. https://doodle.com/poll/2ft4vhb96tgwf8p9?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link

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possibly re-scheduling Stylesheets meeting
by Bauman, Syd 31 Jan '22

31 Jan '22

I asked Doodle.com to send an invite here, but it is still thinking about it 20 mins later. So below is the link to the new poll. As a reminder, we already have a fall-back meeting time (15:00Z on 4th Fri of each month), but Martin Holmes will (for the most part) not be able to join us at that time. Thus an attempt to find another suitable time slot. Notes: * The Doodle poll is really for every 4th week of every month for at least the 1st part of 2022, not just for the week of Mon 21 Feb 22. * I have included timeslots on Sundays and Saturdays because I do not meeting over the weekend. While I suspect many others will not want to meet over a weekend, I figured there is no way of knowing if we don’t ask. * I put the timeslots in as 1 hour each. In truth, we almost always go over an hour, usually to about 1.25 hours or so. I think it is acceptable (but not ideal) to consider yourself available for a TEI Stylesheets meeting at 13:00 even if you have to leave at 14:00 for another meeting. I think we should always aim to have the Stylesheets meeting over in 1.4 hours (84 mins) or less. https://doodle.com/poll/2ft4vhb96tgwf8p9?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link

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Jessica and Meaghan
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 28 Jan '22

28 Jan '22

Dear Jessica, dear Meaghan, Before you both leave the Council's mailing list, I would like to take the opportunity to thank you for your dedication and commitment to the TEI Council. It has been a pleasure working with you! It is a great pity that we could not meet in person during your term on the Council. However, I hope that we will be able to do so soon. Best, Martina

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Stylesheets group meeting, this Fri 28 Jan 22 15:00Z
by Bauman, Syd 26 Jan '22

26 Jan '22

We are planning to meet this coming Friday, 28 Jan 22 at 15:00Z. That is * 07:00 PST * 10:00 EST * 15:00 GMT * 16:00 CET Helena has been kind enough to set up a GoogleDoc<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> for use at our Stylesheets meetings in 2022. As usual, if Martina does not post a Zoom or other video-chat link, I will. We have 2 tickets to consider — speak up if you care in which order we address them, as we may not get to the 2nd one (as is often the case). * The fact that (at least some) <ref> elements in the _Guidelines_ are not being turned into links in the PDF, #537<https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/537>. * The fact that <constraintSpec>s cannot be deleted with a simple mode="delete", #541<https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/541>. P.S. These are both tickets I created, so I just want to set the record straight that it was Martin’s idea we entertain these at the meeting. 😀

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Re: [Tei-council] New meeting times - Stylesheets meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 17 Jan '22

17 Jan '22

Dear Martin, dear all, Unfortunately, there is no other date that suits everyone. So we have now scheduled the meeting for every 4th Friday of the month, 15:00 UTC (= 07:00 = 10:00 = 15:00= 16:00). The first meeting will take place on 28 January. Best, Martina -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> Im Auftrag von Martin Holmes Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Jänner 2022 17:27 An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] New meeting times Hi all, 7am on Friday is not ideal for me because I need to be on my way to work by about 7.20. But I can negotiate to start work a bit later on those Fridays if it suits everyone else. Cheers, Martin On 2022-01-07 07:03, Bauman, Syd wrote: > Every fourth Friday of the month works well for /me/ for the > Stylesheets meeting for the year, but might be problematic for some > folks in Nov & Dec. (UTC is the *bolded* time; note 2 choices for when > we have different shifts to DST.): > > * Fri 28 Jan 22 07:00 = 10:00 = *15:00*= 16:00. > * Fri 25 Feb 22 07:00 = 10:00 = *15:00*= 16:00. > * Fri /25 Mar/ 22 07:00 = 10:00 = *14:00*= 15:00, *OR* > * Fri /25 Mar/ 22 08:00 = 11:00 = 15:00= 16:00. > * Fri /22 Apr/ 22 07:00 = 10:00 = *14:00*= 15:00, *OR* > * Fri /22 Apr/ 22 08:00 = 11:00 = 15:00= 16:00. > * Fri 27 May 22 07:00 = 10:00 = 15:00= 16:00. > * Fri 24 Jun 22 07:00 = 10:00 = 15:00 = 16:00. > * Fri 23 Jul 22 07:00 = 10:00 = 15:00 = 16:00. > * Fri 26 Aug 22 07:00 = 10:00 = 15:00 = 16:00. > * Fri 23 Sep 22 07:00 = 10:00 = 15:00 = 16:00. > * Fri 28 Oct 22 07:00 = 10:00 = 15:00 = 16:00. > * Fri 25 Nov 22 07:00 = 10:00 = *15:00*= 16:00 (day after American > Thanksgiving). > * Fri 30 Dec 22 07:00 = 10:00 = *15:00*= 16:00 (middle of winter break > for most). > > My instinct is to go for it, and see what availability is like for the > last 2 in Sep or Oct, and re-schedule iff needed. Especially since we > may need to re-schedule things for Fall semester anyway, if there are > people whose academic calendar changes. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > First of all, I wish you a Happy New Year! > > We have a decision for the monthly Council call in 2022. The meeting > will be held every second Friday of the month at 7am PST / 10am EST / > 3pm BST / 4pm CEST. The first meeting will be next week on Friday, > January 14. > > Would this new time slot also work for the monthly Stylesheets call > (the forth Friday of the month)? Martin and Nicholas, would this work > for you too? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tei-council mailing list > Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > -- ------------------------------------------ Martin Holmes UVic Humanities Computing and Media Centre I acknowledge and respect the lək̓ʷəŋən peoples on whose traditional territory the university stands and the Songhees, Esquimalt and WSÁNEĆ peoples whose historical relationships with the land continue to this day. _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Latest TCW 32 up for reading
by Bauman, Syd 15 Jan '22

15 Jan '22

I have now pushed up 2 new files to the Documentation/TCW/ repo: * tcw32.xslt = A driver or wrapper XSLT program that runs Stylesheets/profiles/default/html5/to.xsl and over-rides the templates for processing <egXML>. * tcw32.css = CSS to go with the output of above. I have used it by inserting it directly into the output HTML using the $cssInlineFiles parameter to the stylesheets. I have also put the (current) generated output up on my basement server<https://bauman.zapto.org/~syd/temp/4TEICouncil/tcw32.html> for y’all. The differences in the output of examples are: * Completely different indentation algorithm * Box with example scrolls iff it is too wide * Different colors * Mostly like oXygen * More subdued quotes around attr values * Used the oXygen XSLT-element color for non-TEI (i.e., Schematron) elements I do not know that the Documentation/TCW/ repo is the right place to keep these things, especially if we convert this from TCW 32 to TEI U6 (or whatever). But for now it makes the most sense …

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Call in 45 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 14 Jan '22

14 Jan '22

Dear all, our call starts in 45 minutes. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sajMYsUBzXLd-YSyFPzPKT1keh9ExPmHXfYepg6…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sajMYsUBzXLd-YSyFPzPKT1keh9ExPmHXfYepg6…> The zoom link is in the google doc. Best, Martina

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Next meeting, Friday Jan 14
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 12 Jan '22

12 Jan '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Friday, Jan 14 at 7am PST / 10am EST / 3pm BST / 4pm CEST https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sajMYsUBzXLd-YSyFPzPKT1keh9ExPmHXfYepg6… Please add topics that you would like to discuss. The zoom link is in the google doc. Best, Martina

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anywhere else to look?
by Bauman, Syd 11 Jan '22

11 Jan '22

Re: TEI ticket #2217<https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/2217> I have scanned the entire TEI/, Stylesheets/, Documentation/, and oxygen-tei/ repos (not to mention lots of old directories I have lying around) for occurrences of “Guidelines-pdf” and “pdf-complete” and have not found any (except those in the Makefile to be changed). Oher than checking with the TEIGarage folks, is there anywhere else (particularly in documentation) that I should be looking?

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Anne Ferger addr?
by Bauman, Syd 10 Jan '22

10 Jan '22

Peter — Can you send me Anne Ferger’s e-mail address, please? I wanted to check wither about any side effects of a ticket (#2217<https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/2217>), but cannot seem to find her address. (I figured it would have been on her slides from the Nov 21<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vtebp2ICo20mHtrew29BUE1NeMGKORBceSW3MCF…> meeting, but that file is not found.) Thanks.

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New meeting times
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 07 Jan '22

07 Jan '22

Dear all, First of all, I wish you a Happy New Year! We have a decision for the monthly Council call in 2022. The meeting will be held every second Friday of the month at 7am PST / 10am EST / 3pm BST / 4pm CEST. The first meeting will be next week on Friday, January 14. Would this new time slot also work for the monthly Stylesheets call (the forth Friday of the month)? Martin and Nicholas, would this work for you too? Best, Martina

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Reminder: Doodle for monthly call and VF2F
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 07 Jan '22

07 Jan '22

Dear all, This is a reminder to fill in the doodle for the monthly Council call https://doodle.com/poll/edshymwhk3fhryg9?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link and the VF2F meeting https://doodle.com/poll/g8xrbfae5qanaean?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Thanks! Best, Martina

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Doodle: Council meetings in 2022
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 21 Dec '21

21 Dec '21

Dear all, As discussed in our last Council meeting, we will need new meeting times for 2022. I'm sorry it's a doodle again, but when2meet does not convert time zone ... I hope that we can stick with the second week of each month (= 2nd Mon / 2nd Tue etc.). So please do not pay attention to these specific dates in January in the Doodle, they are only placeholders for the second week of each month. Doodle for the monthly Council call: https://doodle.com/poll/edshymwhk3fhryg9?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link And for those who have not filled in the Doodle for the VF2F meeting yet, here is the link: https://doodle.com/poll/g8xrbfae5qanaean?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Stylesheets meeting in 30 min
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 16 Dec '21

16 Dec '21

Please find the Zoom link in the Scratch Pad: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tXl83drQi5vIYqdmY7O0ORXxSEEtf9NpYykg8FS… Best, Martina

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Doodle for Short virtual meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 14 Dec '21

14 Dec '21

Dear Council, In our last Council call we agreed that due to the ongoing COVID-19 situation we will organize another SVF2F (short virtual face-to-face meeting) in March or April. [1] The idea is: * The North-American group starts on Friday afternoon (12pm PST / 3pm EDT) ~ 3 hours * The European group continues on Saturday morning (10am CET) ~ 3 hours * Council convenes as a whole on Saturday (morning for US/CA, afternoon for the Europeans) ~4 hours Please fill in the doodle soon: https://doodle.com/poll/g8xrbfae5qanaean?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link [1] For our new members: In addition to the monthly meetings we usually have in person meetings twice a year for three days (one in spring and one directly connected with the TEI Conference). During the pandemic we decided to hold shorter virtual "face-to-face" meetings as it is not feasible to do 3 days online. Best, Martina

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Next Stylesheets meeting, Dec 16
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 12 Dec '21

12 Dec '21

Dear all, Our next Stylesheets meeting will be on Thursday, Dec 16 at 10:30am PDT, 1:30pm EDT, 6:30pm BST, 7:30pm CEST Please find the Zoom link in the Scratch Pad: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tXl83drQi5vIYqdmY7O0ORXxSEEtf9NpYykg8FS… Best, Martina

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Happy birthday, Lou
by Peter Stadler 09 Dec '21

09 Dec '21

Dear Lou, It just happened that we were having a Council meeting today, which – as my calendar tells me – is your birthday! So we took these screenshots for your amusement and to salute you! Have a great day with a lot of family and/or friends, wine and food! Peter and the rest of the TEI Council

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meeting in 45 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 09 Dec '21

09 Dec '21

Dear all, This is the agenda for our meeting today: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ohb1obQJ5MVGd-Gb5hIKn1LW6loB5NeCfiybNZA… The zoom link is in the google doc. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next meeting: Thu, Dec 9
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 07 Dec '21

07 Dec '21

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting on Thu, Dec 9 at 10:30am-12:00pm PDT, 1:30pm-3:00pm EDT, 6:30pm-8:00pm BST, 7:30pm-9:00pm CEST https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ohb1obQJ5MVGd-Gb5hIKn1LW6loB5NeCfiybNZA… The zoom link is in the google doc. Please add topics that you would like to discuss. Best, Martina

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Council chair elections
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 07 Dec '21

07 Dec '21

Dear all, This is a reminder that we will elect the Council chair for 2022 in the next Council meeting on Thursday, Dec 9. If you would like to stand for elections or want to nominate someone, please let us know before the next meeting. Best, Martina

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next Stylesheets meeting?
by Bauman, Syd 03 Dec '21

03 Dec '21

The next Stylesheets meeting is scheduled for Thu 23 Dec 21 at 18:30Z. That’s pretty close to a major holiday. Do folks want to: * meet on Thu 16 Dec 18:30Z instead * meet on Thu 23 Dec 18:30Z as scheduled * meet on both days * set up a Doodle poll or a when2meet poll, or whatever, to schedule some other time in Dec * cancel December Stylesheets meeting entirely Fill out the Doodle poll<https://doodle.com/poll/vb9qx67in82ui5q7?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=linkhtt…> soon, please.

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Stylesheets meeting, Thu 02 Dec 21
by Bauman, Syd 28 Nov '21

28 Nov '21

We are scheduled to hold a Stylesheets meeting Thu 02 Dec 21 at 18:30Z for 1½ hours. That is * 10:30–12:00 PST (JJ, MH) * 13:30–15:00 EST (SB, EBB, MB, HC, JL, RV) * 18:30–20:00 GMT (HSB?, NC, MT?) * 19:30–21:00 CET (MS, PS) (EB & SS — You are invited, of course, but a) I do not know in which time zone you live; please let me know for future reference; and b) you should not feel at all compelled to join us, both because you are not actually on Council yet, and because tackling the Stylesheets is probably not a good introduction-to-Council level task. They (the Stylesheets) are, shall we say, baroque. It takes months to get oriented, and even after that none of us dare make a change without being in a separate branch, running all sorts of tests, and crossing our fingers.) See the Stylesheets Group 2021 document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tXl83drQi5vIYqdmY7O0ORXxSEEtf9NpYykg8FS…> for details. (Martina — if I did not copy the correct Zoom information, please update there.)

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Stylesheets meeting: the plan
by Bauman, Syd 25 Nov '21

25 Nov '21

With 8 of 11 voting, we have 3 for tomorrow, 5 for Thu 02 Dec. So the current plan is to hold the official Styleseets meeting on Thu 02 Dec 21 at 18:30Z. That is * 10:30–12:00 PST * 13:30–15:00 EST * 18:30–20:00 GMT * 19:30–21:00 CET Topics likely to include discussion of future meetings and work on #495<https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/495>. I also hope to meet with Martin and Helena, and anyone else who wants to join us, tomorrow 25 Nov 21 from 18:30Z to 19:50Z. We are likely going to work on #515<https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/515>. This little meeting would take place on Martin’s Google-Meet space<https://meet.google.com/hnv-kswu-bzj>. That meeting time is * 10:30–11:50 PST * 13:30–14:50 EST * 18:30–19:50 GMT * 19:30–20:50 CET Let me know ASAP if any aspects of this plan are untenable.

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TCW 32 progress
by Bauman, Syd 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

Example 58, the one for validating a relative URI reference or file: scheme reference, has been added. Made several other minor changes, as well.

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Thanksgiving Stylesheets
by Bauman, Syd 17 Nov '21

17 Nov '21

We have a Stylesheets meeting scheduled for Thu 25 Nov at 18:30Z. That day is a major holiday in the USA. Do we want to a) hold meeting anyway, b) cancel, or c) try to reschedule? As for me, I am OK with holding the meeting as scheduled (i.e., (a)). Just means I have to do some cooking earlier in the day. (I will also probably leave at 20:00Z sharp to change clothes and get on the road to my sister’s, where I am due before 22:00Z.)

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Call in 60 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 11 Nov '21

11 Nov '21

Dear all, our call starts in 60 minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vtebp2ICo20mHtrew29BUE1NeMGKORBceSW3MCF… Please find the zoom link in the agenda. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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TCW 32 reminders
by Bauman, Syd 10 Nov '21

10 Nov '21

[James: This is the document that resulted from your ticket #1675<https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1675>, to which you are assigned, so many of us are expecting you to chip in.] Per Martina’s document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nAi_6pB1ayTV3SYAsrf8InKL1T5n8DAdgdhf-o5…>, there is still some work to do on TCW32: * 1 or 2 more examples to write (SB) * testing examples #10 and #15 (EBB) * testing examples #17, #18, #19 (???) * proofreading prose (JJ) * MS & I need to talk about errors example #09 (and #08) (SB & MS) * checking over entire document (JC, I think this would be you, no?) * work on #11 and new, similar but more thorough, example, if I understand RV correctly (SB & RV to check I interpreted him correctly — see my comments in document, Raff)

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