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dreaded conflicting ID types
by Syd Bauman 06 Nov '17

06 Nov '17

The odd4odds RELAX NG schema (soon to be tei_customization.rng in Exemplars/ unless someone comes up with a better name) is itself invalid when ID/IDREF checking is on (in oXygen), or the '-i' switch is not present (using `jing`). This, of course, would break the build process unless we special-case it. And, as you can see in the documentation for the schema, this has been a well-known situation for this schema for a long time. The current version is not readily available, as I am working on it. The version of the schema[1] and the documentation[2] that I showed in Prague are still easily available. Here are the error messages I'm getting from `jing` (w/o '-i') from that version of the schema, re-written a bit for readability: | 877:16: error: conflicting ID-types for "@xml:id" of <tei:sequence> | 1057:14: error: conflicting ID-types for "@defaultPhase" of <sch:schema> | 1037:14: error: conflicting ID-types for "@defaultPhase" of <sch:schema> | 1085:14: error: conflicting ID-types for "@defaultPhase" of <sch:schema> | 1016:14 error: conflicting ID-types for "@defaultPhase" of <sch:schema> Of course, if we fix the latter 4 messages by making @defaultPhase NCName instead of IDREF, something else crops up instead (@id of <sch:rule>), as the errors are not from the Schematron declarations, really, but rather from our definitions of "anyElement-xenoData", "anyElement-egXML", "anyElement-content", and "anyElement-datatype". (The first error is from the definition of "sch_foreign-element".) Excluding elements from the Schematron and TEI namespaces form all of these macros fixes this problem. But of course, that's not OK. You might very well want TEI elements inside your Schematron assertions, and you might very well want to give example code of Schematron in your <egXML>. Besides, it would require altering the Schematron schema, which rubs me the wrong way. Before I go special-casing this particular schema in the build process (so it is validated w/ '-i', as all should be in my opinion) I wanted to know if there are any other solutions I'm missing. Notes ----- [1] http://www.wwp.neu.edu/outreach/seminars/_current/handouts/ODD_exercise_sup… [2] http://www.wwp.neu.edu/outreach/seminars/_current/handouts/ODD_exercise_sup…

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co-operative stylesheet education session #13, take 2
by Syd Bauman 02 Nov '17

02 Nov '17

[I sent this last night at 22:12Z, but have reports that no one received it.] Ack! Sorry I've fallen down. Actually I didn't fall down, but my entire digital life fell down around me.[1] I believe we are scheduled for tomorrow Thu 11-02 13:00Z, i.e.: * 06:00 PDT * 09:00 EDT * 13:00 BST <== different than last meeting * 14:00 CEST <== different than last meeting Not surprisingly, I did not get a chance to do as much set-up work as I would have hoped. But I did chat w/ Martin and pop a request off to Elisa. So I'm hoping that our main topic will be a discussion led by Elisa of where & how to fix Stylesheets ticket 286, <ref> inside <listRef>.[2] I'm also hoping to devote 5 mins (certainly no more than 10) to the goals and purpose of the group. At last Council conference call a week ago, it was implied that the group is actually a Council sub-group or work-group that goes about fixing Stylesheets tickets. I bristled at this and said on the record that it is not a work-group and is tasked not with fixing problems but rather with providing a framework for co-operative self-education about the Stylesheets and how they work. That said, I'm perfectly happy to morph this into a Stylesheets task force (the words "mission impossible" jump to mind :-) that *is* actually where and how Council works on the Stylesheets. But I *don't* want that to happen by accident; I want us to purposefully decide we're happy with the role change (or not). If that all goes quickly, other tickets we may wish to poke at, in numerical (not intelligent) order: * 219 * 220 * 247 * 281 Notes ----- [1] On Fri night 10-27 my e-mail account was compromised, including all e-mail being "deleted" on arrival. (In quotes because MS365 e-mail system does not really deleted it, just moves it to a folder called "Deleted".) I did not notice until Sun afternoon 10-29. After I noticed something was wrong, but before I did anything about it (other than change my password, of course), we lost power due to the storm. Power was restored yesterday, Tue evening 10-31. I had a lot of post-power failure work to do (setting clocks, going through food in fridge, etc.), and had dinner, so did not get to my e-mail until late last night. When I sat down to work on e-mail I discovered our cable connection (which is both TV and internet at my house) was down. Note that my wife was watching TV while I ate dinner, so it had been up a mere hour or so before. Anyway, I checked the TV and it had a message that implied they would probably have it fixed "shortly", but I did not wait, I just went to bed. When I finally got to my e-mail today there were 693 pieces of e-mail waiting for me to sift through. [2] https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/286

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Stylesheets repo
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 02 Nov '17

02 Nov '17

Council— In preparing for tomorrow morning’s Stylesheets meeting, I was preparing to commit some changes to odd2odds.xsl on my fork. I noticed my fork had some old commits on it that I didn’t want to send with a pull request (old practice code I wrote, not useful to us), so I decided to destroy my fork and create a new one. The problem was—I went online to do it, thought I was accessing my forked origin to delete—I was on the wrong page. Evidently I deleted the remote origin repo because I can’t access it any more (and presumably no one can). I immediately wrote for help to GitHub support to try to restore our Stylesheets repo as it was at 11:30pm EST on November 1. I’m waiting to hear from them, but in the meantime, I wonder if we have a full copy of the repo with the issues. I am hoping that this is known territory to someone among us, that the good people at GitHub can help, that I haven’t destroyed everything! I am reasonably confident we can put the files back as they were tonight—I have them pulled in locally anyway. I am anxious about the tickets, and extremely upset. Anyway, you all need to know what just happened, and I hope we can repair it. It hardly bears mentioning that I think I have a fix for the issue we’re to discuss tomorrow. We need the Stylesheets repo! Elisa, worried sick and anxiously awaiting word from GitHub. -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/>

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co-operative stylesheet education session #13
by Syd Bauman 01 Nov '17

01 Nov '17

Ack! Sorry I've fallen down. Actually I didn't fall down, but my entire digital life fell down around me.[1] I believe we are scheduled for tomorrow Thu 11-02 13:00Z, i.e.: * 06:00 PDT * 09:00 EDT * 13:00 BST <== different than last meeting * 14:00 CEST <== different than last meeting Not surprisingly, I did not get a chance to do as much set-up work as I would have hoped. But I did chat w/ Martin and pop a request off to Elisa. So I'm hoping that our main topic will be a discussion led by Elisa of where & how to fix Stylesheets ticket 286, <ref> inside <listRef>.[2] I'm also hoping to devote 5 mins (certainly no more than 10) to the goals and purpose of the group. At last Council conference call a week ago, it was implied that the group is actually a Council sub-group or work-group that goes about fixing Stylesheets tickets. I bristled at this and said on the record that it is not a work-group and is tasked not with fixing problems but rather with providing a framework for co-operative self-education about the Stylesheets and how they work. That said, I'm perfectly happy to morph this into a Stylesheets task force (the words "mission impossible" jump to mind :-) that *is* actually where and how Council works on the Stylesheets. But I *don't* want that to happen by accident; I want us to purposefully decide we're happy with the role change (or not). If that all goes quickly, other tickets we may wish to poke at, in numerical (not intelligent) order: * 219 * 220 * 247 * 281 Notes ----- [1] On Fri night 10-27 my e-mail account was compromised, including all e-mail being "deleted" on arrival. (In quotes because MS365 e-mail system does not really deleted it, just moves it to a folder called "Deleted".) I did not notice until Sun afternoon 10-29. After I noticed something was wrong, but before I did anything about it (other than change my password, of course), we lost power due to the storm. Power was restored yesterday, Tue evening 10-31. I had a lot of post-power failure work to do (setting clocks, going through food in fridge, etc.), and had dinner, so did not get to my e-mail until late last night. When I sat down to work on e-mail I discovered our cable connection (which is both TV and internet at my house) was down. Note that my wife was watching TV while I ate dinner, so it had been up a mere hour or so before. Anyway, I checked the TV and it had a message that implied they would probably have it fixed "shortly", but I did not wait, I just went to bed. When I finally got to my e-mail today there were 693 pieces of e-mail waiting for me to sift through. [2] https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/286

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Jenkins build became unstable: TEIP5-Test-dev #3442
by Victoria TEI Jenkins 31 Oct '17

31 Oct '17

See <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/3442/display/redirect?pag…>

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Build failed in Jenkins: TEIP5-Documentation-dev #2631
by Victoria TEI Jenkins 31 Oct '17

31 Oct '17

See <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/2631/display/red…> Changes: [philomousos] Upgrading to Saxon 9.8.0.5. ------------------------------------------ Started by upstream project "TEIP5-Test-dev" build number 3442 originally caused by: Started by an SCM change Building in workspace <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/> > git rev-parse --is-inside-work-tree # timeout=10 Fetching changes from the remote Git repository > git config remote.origin.url https://github.com/TEIC/TEI.git # timeout=10 Fetching upstream changes from https://github.com/TEIC/TEI.git > git --version # timeout=10 > git fetch --tags --progress https://github.com/TEIC/TEI.git +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* > git rev-parse refs/remotes/origin/dev^{commit} # timeout=10 > git rev-parse refs/remotes/origin/origin/dev^{commit} # timeout=10 Checking out Revision e1c281f1a19916b5d145a261ddc0440338a79da5 (refs/remotes/origin/dev) > git config core.sparsecheckout # timeout=10 > git checkout -f e1c281f1a19916b5d145a261ddc0440338a79da5 > git rev-list ceb830c444b3600431d8dd4552f97a1004112f8d # timeout=10 [workspace] $ /bin/bash -xe /tmp/jenkins3587607126152272292.sh + svn update Skipped '.' Summary of conflicts: Skipped paths: 1 [workspace] $ /bin/bash -xe /tmp/jenkins8783435204624508338.sh + cd P5 ++ pwd + make VCS=git INJENKINS=true XSL=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> clean html-web epub3 Guidelines.pdf (cd Exemplars; make clean) make[1]: Entering directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/Exemplars'> mv tei_lite_fr.nvdl tei_lite_fr.nvdl.bak rm -f *.processed *.xsd *.dtd *.doc.* *.rnc tei*.xsl tei*.rng *.compiled* *~ *.xi *.isosch *.epub *.pdf *.html *.nvdl *-teix* mv tei_lite_fr.nvdl.bak tei_lite_fr.nvdl rm -f exnames.xml rm -f enrich.rng isofs.rng rm -f names.xml *properties rm -f [A-Z]*xml make[1]: Leaving directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/Exemplars'> (cd Test; make clean) make[1]: Entering directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/Test'> rm -f test*.doc.xml test*.rnc test*.dtd test*.compiled.* test*.xsd test*.rnc test*.rng test*.xsl test*.isosch rm -rf LOG *~ *.xsd Schema RomaResults DTD rm -rf *.doc.* rm -f detest.log detest.log.all rm -f *-examples.rng *-examples.rnc *test*.nvdl *-ex.odd rm -f detest.rnc detest.rng detest.dtd detest.isosch make[1]: Leaving directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/Test'> rm -rf release Guidelines Guidelines-web Schema DTD dtd Split rm -rf Guidelines.??? Guidelines-* rm -f *.isosch.xsl rm -f *.stamp rm -f *.xsd rm -f Exemplars/stdout rm -f Test/*.isosch rm -f Test/detest.dtd Test/detest.rnc Test/detest.rng Test/detest.xsl rm -f Test/stdout rm -f Utilities/guidelines.xsl rm -f anything buildweb.xml rm -f p5.sch p5.isosch p5.xml p5subset.xml p5subset.json p5subset.js rm -f p5attlist.txt rm -f p5odds-examples.rng p5odds-examples.rnc p5odds.rng p5odds.rnc p5odds.isosch rm -f pdfbuild.log rm -f stripspace.xsl.model rm -f tei-*.zip rm -f tei-p5-*_*build rm -f tei-p5-*_*changes rm -f tei-p5-*_*deb rm -f teiwebsiteguidelines.zip rm -rf FASC-* rm -rf catalogue.* modList rm -rf valid v.xml ValidatorLog.xml Utilities/pointerattributes.xsl graphics.sh missfont.log v.body v.header Schematron1.xml Schematron2.xml Checking you have running XML tools and Perl before trying to run transform... Ant:/usr/bin/ant Perl:/usr/bin/perl Java:/usr/bin/java xmllint:/usr/bin/xmllint touch check.stamp get latest date: VCS is git if [ "git" = "svn" ] ; \ then \ if [ true = "true" ] ; \ then svn info --xml svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/tei/code/trunk/P5 ; \ else svn info --xml ; \ fi > repodate.xml ; \ fi if [ git = "git" ] ; \ then \ git log --max-count=1 --pretty=format:"<info type=\"git\"><entry><commit revision=\"%h\"><date>%ai</date></commit></entry></info>" > repodate.xml ; \ fi BUILD: Generate modular DTDs, Schemas, Schematron and miscellaneous outputs ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -q -lib Utilities/lib/jing.jar:Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -f antbuilder.xml -DXSL=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> -DDRIVER=Source/guidelines-en.xml base subset outputs [echo] make modular DTDs, RELAXNG schemas, json, odd schemas, schematron files [echo] Using <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> for XSL stylesheets [echo] Do ODD processing for p5odds.odd [echo] Do ODD processing for p5odds-examples.odd BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 1 minute 52 seconds BUILD: Generate modular RELAX NG (compact) schemas using trang (cd Schema; for i in *rng; do java -jar ../Utilities/lib/trang.jar $i `basename $i .rng`.rnc;done) touch schemas.stamp BUILD: Making HTML Guidelines for language en rm -rf Guidelines-web perl -p -e \ "s+http://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet+<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…;> \ s+/usr/share/xml/tei/stylesheet+<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…;"> \ Utilities/guidelines.xsl.model > Utilities/guidelines.xsl if [ -n ] ; then curl -s http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml | sed 's/content="text\/html"/content="text\/html; charset=utf-8"/' | xmllint --html --noent --dropdtd --xmlout - > Utilities/teic-index.xml;fi for i in en ;do \ mkdir -p Guidelines-web/$i/html; \ cp odd.css guidelines.css guidelines-print.css Guidelines-web/$i/html; \ (cd Source/Guidelines/en; tar --exclude .svn -c -f - Images) | (cd Guidelines-web/$i/html; tar xf - );\ (cd webnav; tar --exclude .svn -c -f - .) | (cd Guidelines-web/$i/html; tar xf - ); \ done echo '<project basedir="." default="html" name="buildweb"><import file="antbuildweb.xml"/><target name="html">' \ > buildweb.xml for i in en ;do \ echo "<buildweb lang=\"$i\"/>" >> buildweb.xml; \ done echo '</target></project>' >> buildweb.xml ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -q -lib Utilities/lib/jing.jar:Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -f buildweb.xml -DgoogleAnalytics= [echo] Make Guidelines web pages for language en BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 2 minutes 3 seconds # commented out for DEBUGing: rm -f buildweb.xml Utilities/teic-index.xml touch html-web.stamp ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -q -f <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> -lib Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -Dprofiledir=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> -Dprofile=tei -DinputFile=`pwd`/p5.xml -DoutputFile=`pwd`/Guidelines.epub -Dcoverimage=`pwd`/Utilities/cover.jpg BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 1 minute 17 seconds java -jar Utilities/epubcheck3.jar Guidelines.epub Epubcheck Version 3.0.1 Validating against EPUB version 3.0 java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/sf/saxon/TransformerFactoryImpl at com.adobe.epubcheck.xml.XMLValidator.<init>(XMLValidator.java:203) at com.adobe.epubcheck.opf.OPFChecker.<init>(OPFChecker.java:62) at com.adobe.epubcheck.opf.OPFChecker30.<init>(OPFChecker30.java:59) at com.adobe.epubcheck.ocf.OCFChecker.runChecks(OCFChecker.java:234) at com.adobe.epubcheck.api.EpubCheck.validate(EpubCheck.java:207) at com.adobe.epubcheck.tool.Checker.validateFile(Checker.java:172) at com.adobe.epubcheck.tool.Checker.run(Checker.java:255) at com.adobe.epubcheck.tool.Checker.main(Checker.java:182) Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.sf.saxon.TransformerFactoryImpl at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:381) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:335) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357) ... 8 more make: *** [epub3] Error 1 Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Not sending mail to unregistered user philomousos(a)gmail.com

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RomaJS update
by Raffaele Viglianti 31 Oct '17

31 Oct '17

Hi folks! Thanks again for joining the RomaJS meeting earlier today. I seem to have been able to fix the bugs that I found yesterday. Briefly, they related to: - bad tokenization using str.split(/s+/); now using str.match(/\S+/g) instead which works great - currently unsupported elements such as classRef where causing issues, now the code works around them TEI Lite and TEI Tite still won't work, however, but that's because OxGarage thinks I'm asking it to download references to images, even though I explicitly tell it not to via the API (as described by the OxGarage site itself): http://www.tei-c.org/ege-webservice//Conversions/ODDC%3Atext%3Axml/relaxng%…<conversions><conversion index="0">*<property id="oxgarage.getImages">false</property>*<property id="oxgarage.getOnlineImages">false</property><property id="oxgarage.lang">en</property><property id="oxgarage.textOnly">true</property><property id="pl.psnc.dl.ege.tei.profileNames">default</property></conversion></conversions> Not sure how to fix this at the moment, so it'll have to wait. Any thoughts and help experimenting is appreciated. SimplePrint still doesn't work because OxGarage won't transform it. Also, while I was debugging, OxGarage went down (giving error 503 for a couple minutes). Not sure whether it had anything to do with the fact that it was around 00:00GMT or if we should worry about it being able to handle frequent requests. Anyway, now that things seem to be working better, please try to break them again by uploading your ODDs and making a few changes. Just make sure you don't have references to images and don't use <specGrpRef>. Staging version is at http://mith.us/romajs Thanks! Raff

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Re: [tei-council] RomaJS next meeting
by James Cummings 30 Oct '17

30 Oct '17

I'll be about 10 minutes late (I've caught up 5 from the 15 I originally told Raff) Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:39:17 PM To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Subject: Re: [tei-council] RomaJS next meeting I may be a couple of minutes late, but will be there. Sent from my phone. > On Oct 30, 2017, at 12:17, Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > All, just to be safe: the meeting will happen in about *45 minutes*. > > Hangout link: https://hangouts.google.com/call/FZsGKwea7HQUrQQ2PSnHAAEE > > Raff > >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'd done everything but push it :-). There seems to have been a change in >> the id-generation algorithm, so a bunch of tests had to be modified. Yeah, >> I'll do the same for TEI. >> >> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < >> raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Here is a reminder about the RomaJS meeting. Note that while Europe has >>> switched back to standard time, the US is still in daylight saving time. >>> I've already fallen victim to this confusion by saying we'd meet at >> 18:00Z >>> when in fact *we'll be meeting at 17:00Z*. >>> >>> To clarify: we are meeting at 1pm EDT, which should be: >>> >>> 5pm in England >>> 6pm in Austria, Germany, Poland, and Spain >>> and of course 1pm for the US East Coast. >>> >>> I have a new version of RomaJS here: http://mith.us/romajs . It's not >>> possible to run it from GitHub pages anymore because requests to the >> Vault >>> and OxGarage get blocked as they go from HTTPS > HTTP. >>> >>> It's now possible to load an ODD from the Vault or upload your own, >>> include/exclude modules or elements, and export to ODD, RelaxNG, or W3C >>> schema. BUT, there are issues with multiple ODDs from the Vault, likely >> due >>> to the process that compares changes to the ODD and modifies the original >>> customization before sending it to OxGarage. I'm thinking we could spend >>> the hour by trying to locate some of these bugs. >>> >>> Given that we may focus on debugging, I would suggest that you try to get >>> the code and run it locally before the meeting. Code and instructions are >>> here: https://github.com/raffazizzi/romajs . Let me know if you run into >>> any issues. >>> >>> Also a reminder that there were two actions on HC and JC, in case you >> guys >>> still have time and haven't done them: >>> HC to test Saxon 9.8 and commit to Stylesheets/dev branch (should >>> TEI/P5/Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar be the same?) >>> JC to try to figure out if OxGarage can do arbitrary validation >>> >>> Link to agenda: >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hb0q6pejbLaQRv2SaAv2f0ruyyvzH >>> C3aZEpHpjiLNCY/edit?usp=sharing >>> >>> Will send a link to a hangout closer to the meeting. >>> >>> All best, >>> Raff >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < >>> raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I couldn't find a way to set Doodle to show local times... Sorry about >>>> that! >>>> >>>> It looks like the best time will be Monday 30th at 1pm EDT or 18:00Z >>>> >>>> See you then! >>>> Raff >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 4:43 PM, James Cummings < >>>> James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Raff, is there a way to edit the doodle to have it be timezone >> aware? >>>>> Doodle used to do this. I only ask because in the UK Daylight Savings >>> Time >>>>> (BST) ends on the 29 October, but doesn't end in the USA until 5 >>> November >>>>> so we're in a weird in-between time. 😉 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But I'm using <https://www.timeanddate.com/w >>>>> orldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20171030&p1=263&p2=136> >>>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso= >>>>> 20171030&p1=263&p2=136 to convert! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk >>>>> >>>>> School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle >>>>> University >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org >>> <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei >>>>> -c.org> on behalf of Alejandro Bia <abia(a)umh.es> >>>>> Sent: 12 October 2017 21:06:16 >>>>> To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [tei-council] RomaJS next meeting >>>>> >>>>> Doodle should show local times, and also allow to >>>>> select other time zones, but in this one I can't >>>>> find the way. The fact is that now I'm un >>>>> Uruguay, but on the 30th I'll be in Spain. So >>>>> I'll make my time-shift calculations. ;-) >>>>> >>>>> BTW: Is there a test version to try the current version of RomaJS? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Alex.- >>>>> >>>>> At 22:01 12/10/2017, you wrote: >>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64I entered the >>>>>> dates as EDT, but I thought Doodle would show you your local >>>>>> times. If Mon Oct 30 shows 9am as the first option, then it's showing >>>>> EDT. >>>>>> >>>>>> Raff >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Alejandro Bia <abia(a)umh.es> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What time zone is used in the Doodle ‚ ˆ]MŽŒŒHL‹Ì@0/2017, you >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64No worries Elisa! During this >>>>> meeting we >>>>>> ˆÛÛœÚY\™Ye idea of getting >>>>>>>> Roma to be minimally functional by the Members Meeting, so that >>> Hugh >>>>> can >>>>>>> Ú]™HH™\Ü Èthe community. By minimally functional we mean: >>>>>>>> 1. being able to load either a local ODD or one of the "official" >>>>>>>> customizations from the Vault; >>>>>>> ‹ˆÙ[XÝ[Ù[\À and elements (already working); >>>>>>>> 3. export updated ODD (already working); >>>>>> ˆ >>>>>> ˆ^Ü ØÚ[XK‚ƒà ø $ Ñ¡¥¹¬ Ñ is is definitely doable >>>>>> in time for the meeting, but it would be >>>>>> ˆ[ [È]™H[›Ý\ˆÚXÚËZ[ˆHÙYZÈ™Y›Àre to check on progress and >>>>>>> \ØÝ\ÜÈ]‚ €£M¼ ¡•É”œs a doodle for who wants and is able to attend: >>>>>>>> https://beta.doodle.com/poll/abavsneipr5hy5uk >>>>>>> ‚F†æ²÷R >> Raff >>>>>> ‚ƒâöâvVBÂö7BÂ#rBs£3bÒÂVÆ—6ÆV& ondar(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> H˜Y™ˆX¡(Î pæðç1dño’ÛÀuldn’t make it this time! I got caught up >>> in >>>>>>>> YY]X¡(°ç0àÈÝY[ Ë‹‹ Ú[ÛÚÈ›ÜˆH™^Û™HH\È] going to be >>>>>>> 1hVø¡(°â1d¸ &0à¸ «0¨ðè•°á¸ % >>>>>> °¨ðè8 «0€´´(ø ±¥Í„ •Í¡•É¼µondar, PhD >>>>>>>> \™XÝÜ‹Ù[ \ˆ›ÜˆHYÚ][^ ˆ\ÜÛÀciate Professor of English >>>>>>> ˆ[š]™\œÚ]HÙˆ]Ø \™Ú]Ü™Y[œØ \™ ˆS1hVø€€ºÛHš]™KÜ™ >>>>>> Y[œØ \™ËHMMŒHTÐB€ E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu | Development site: >>>>>> ˆ‹ËÛ™]Ýš\™K›Ü™ ‚à >> \\Ù]žH[™Ûˆ^HTY<file://\\Ù]žH[™Ûˆ^HTY> ‚ >>> ˆöâö7BÂ#7, >>>>>> at 2:51 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < >>>>>> ˆ&ffVÆWfvÆçF”vÖ¦6öÜ9Î( ÝN‚‚à£â !•±±¼°( > >>>>>> ˆ¾(J,9¼9ÕÕ¼Z8ì¸g3¢ð/hangouts.google.com/call/ >> 7STsUXyknzMo6uLs-FA8AAEE >>>>>>>>> Agenda: >>>>>>>>> Î‹ËÙØÜË™ÛÛÙÛK˜ÛÛKÙØÝ[Y[ ÙÌM×ÝÎ€n8Zq_ >>>>>>>>> GzpWUbBRn1w8kOyhGiToKlcvzjt9AbtvQ/edit\Ü\Ú\š[™Â€ > >>> ˆˆÙYH[ÝH[ˆLZ[ >>>>>>> W0âˆ2á²á²çx¡(¸ &ˆˆ‚‚âöâ7VâÂðct 8, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Raffaele >>> Viglianti < >>>>>>>> ˆ˜Y™˜Y[]€iglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> ˆ ˆX\ˆ[ ˆ ‚ ˆâÀooks like the best time to meet will be >> Wednesday >>>>> Oct >>>>>>> LH]ÜHQ‚ ‚â( ®( ¤Þ(¢” å½Ô Ñ¡•¸„(ø€> Raff >>>>>>> ˆ ‚ ˆˆ2á°àˆue, Oct 3, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < >>>>>>> ˆ ˆraffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> ‚‚àø >>>>>> !•Â±±¼°(ø€> ‚â¸dŽ(¬9µ….( Ü8…Þ(J%¼9Å•²••Õ¾(J,8Œ0˜\È™\žH[ [today, >>> so >>>>> we are >>>>>>> ø .±hVø¡(ˆ2áˆ8 &°é°íÑ¸€€ W"ÖVWFærf÷"æW€t week >>>>>> either Wednesday or Thursday (as I'll >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> away >>>>>>> ˆ òá°æðâ0æVV°ç0â8 .°ç8 ºH›ÝÊKˆHYXH\ÈÈ›ØÝ\ÈÛˆÝ\ÝÀmizing the >> content >>>>>>> ˆ ðæVðæráÖÖVÈ8 .x &°è0î >>>>>> ²á›X\ÙHš[\ÈÀodle poll with your availability >>>>>>>> if you're >>>>>>> ˆ[ \™@sted >>>>>> ˆ1¤°è°«pè‰Ñ°«M¸ %°«péœÈ8 «0îˆÎ‹ËÙÛÙK˜ÛÛ@/poll/pmyppcwwcsk9bfu7 >>>>>> ˆîƒŠk™\ÝƒŠ >>>>>> ³àø I…™˜ >>>>>>> ˆ ˆ2áˆ8 &ˆ2á°è8 «0î8 «00 >>>>>> 0î8 «ZKXÛÝ[˜Ú[XZ[@ng list >>>>>> ˆ2á’Ö0æðçVòç0æ×0çpâÈ’Ö0â(¬9Î(J"¸l¸n(œ8¼9°\ÝË›\ÝÈ >>>>>> «ZKXË›Ü™ËÛXZ[X[‹Û\Ý[™›ËÝZKXÛÝ[˜Ú[ € > >>>>>> ˆˆPTÑH“ÕE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>>>>> ˆÐˆ2á XÛÝ[˜Ú[XZ[[™È\Ý ‚âFV’Ö6÷Væ6Älists.tei-c.org >> <http://xn--lists-fra.tei-c.org> >>> <http://xn--lists-fra.tei-c.org> >>>>> <http://xn--lists-fra.tei-c.org> >>>>>>> ˆ‹ËÛ\ÝË›\ÝË ZKXË›Ü™ËÛXZ[X[€/listinfo/tei-council >>>>>>> ‚ ˆˆPTÑH“ÕNˆÜÝ[™ÜÈÈthis list are publicly archived >>>>>> ˆ8 >>>>>> .RÒ’Ö0æðçVòç0æÖÀX¡(°â0çH’Ö0æðçVòç0æ×0çpâÈ’Ö0â(*Æ÷&p >>>>>> ø ¡ÑÑ(¼½±¥ÍÑÌ¸lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> SR S‘“È’PB ˆK[XZ[ˆXšXP[Z™\ ‚ ˆÒSÈHSRB ˆCentro de Investigación >>> Operativa >>>>>> \\ [Y[ ÈH\Ý@dística, Matemáticas e Informática >>>>>> 0à\™XHH[™ÝXZ™@s y Sistemas Informáticos >>>>>>> >>>>>> [š]™\œÚYYZYÝY[\›°è@ndez >>>>>> YˆÜœ™][X\š]]‹ˆ[š]™\œÚYYËÛ‹ÔŒÌŒ‹Elche, ESPAÑA >>>>>>> Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ >>>>>>> Tel: +34 966658973 >>>>>>> Móvil: +34 644447008 >>>>>> ÚÞ\Nˆ[^X€ia >>>>>>> Twitter: @alex_bia >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus >> software. >>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> ZKXÛÝ[˜Ú[XZ[[™È\Àt >>>>>> ZKXÛÝ[˜Ú[\ÝË ZKXË›Ü™Â‚‡GG¢òöÆ—7G2æÆ—7G2çFV’ >>>>> Ðc.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>>>>> ˆPTÑH“ÕNˆÜÝ@ngs to this list are publicly archived >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> tei-council mailing list >>>>>> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >>>>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>>>>> >>>>>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ALEJANDRO BIA >>>>> e-mail: abia(a)umh.es >>>>> >>>>> CIO - DEMI >>>>> Centro de Investigación Operativa >>>>> Departamento de Estadística, Matemáticas e Informática >>>>> Área de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos >>>>> >>>>> Universidad Miguel Hernández >>>>> Ed. 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Re: [tei-council] RomaJS next meeting
by James Cummings 30 Oct '17

30 Oct '17

Hi Raff, is there a way to edit the doodle to have it be timezone aware? Doodle used to do this. I only ask because in the UK Daylight Savings Time (BST) ends on the 29 October, but doesn't end in the USA until 5 November so we're in a weird in-between time. 😉 But I'm using <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20171030&p1=263…> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20171030&p1=263… to convert! Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Alejandro Bia <abia(a)umh.es> Sent: 12 October 2017 21:06:16 To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Subject: Re: [tei-council] RomaJS next meeting Doodle should show local times, and also allow to select other time zones, but in this one I can't find the way. The fact is that now I'm un Uruguay, but on the 30th I'll be in Spain. So I'll make my time-shift calculations. ;-) BTW: Is there a test version to try the current version of RomaJS? Best, Alex.- At 22:01 12/10/2017, you wrote: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64I entered the >dates as EDT, but I thought Doodle would show you your local >times. If Mon Oct 30 shows 9am as the first option, then it's showing EDT. > >Raff > >On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Alejandro Bia <abia(a)umh.es> wrote: > > > > > What time zone is used in the Doodle‚ˆ]MŽŒŒHL‹Ì@0/2017, you wrote: > > > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64No worries Elisa! During this meeting we >ˆÛÛœÚY\™Ye idea of getting > >> Roma to be minimally functional by the Members Meeting, so that Hugh can > >Ú]™HH™\ÜÈthe community. By minimally functional we mean: > >> 1. being able to load either a local ODD or one of the "official" > >> customizations from the Vault; > >‹ˆÙ[XÝ[Ù[\À and elements (already working); > >> 3. export updated ODD (already working); >ˆ >ˆ^ÜØÚ[XK‚ƒà ø$Ñ¡¥¹¬Ñ is is definitely doable >in time for the meeting, but it would be >ˆ[[È]™H[›Ý\ˆÚXÚËZ[ˆHÙYZÈ™Y›Àre to check on progress and > >\ØÝ\ÜÈ]‚€£M¼¡•É”œs a doodle for who wants and is able to attend: > >> https://beta.doodle.com/poll/abavsneipr5hy5uk > >‚F†æ²÷R >> Raff >‚ƒâöâvVBÂö7BÂ#rBs£3bÒÂVÆ—6ÆV& ondar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> H˜Y™ˆX¡(Î pæðç1dño’ÛÀuldn’t make it this time! I got caught up in > >> YY]X¡(°ç0àÈÝY[Ë‹‹Ú[ÛÚÈ›ÜˆH™^Û™HH\È] going to be > >1hVø¡(°â1d¸ &0à¸ «0¨ðè•°á¸ % >°¨ðè8 «0€´´(ø ±¥Í„ •Í¡•É¼µondar, PhD > >> \™XÝÜ‹Ù[ \ˆ›ÜˆHYÚ][^ ˆ\ÜÛÀciate Professor of English > >ˆ[š]™\œÚ]HÙˆ]Ø\™Ú]Ü™Y[œØ\™ˆS1hVø€€ºÛHš]™KÜ™ > Y[œØ \™ËHMMŒHTÐB€ E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu | Development site: >ˆ‹ËÛ™]Ýš\™K›Ü™‚à >> \\Ù]žH[™Ûˆ^HTY<file://\\Ù]žH[™Ûˆ^HTY> ‚ ˆöâö7BÂ#7, >at 2:51 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < >ˆ&ffVÆWfvÆçF”vÖ¦6öÜ9Î( ÝN‚‚à£â !•±±¼°( > >ˆ¾(J,9¼9ÕÕ¼Z8ì¸g3¢ð/hangouts.google.com/call/7STsUXyknzMo6uLs-FA8AAEE > >> > Agenda: > >> > Î‹ËÙØÜË™ÛÛÙÛK˜ÛÛKÙØÝ[Y[ÙÌM×ÝÎ€n8Zq_ > >> > GzpWUbBRn1w8kOyhGiToKlcvzjt9AbtvQ/edit\Ü\Ú\š[™Â€ > ˆˆÙYH[ÝH[ˆLZ[ > >W0âˆ2á²á²çx¡(¸ &ˆˆ‚‚âöâ7VâÂðct 8, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < > >> ˆ˜Y™˜Y[]€iglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > ˆ ˆX\ˆ[ ˆ ‚ ˆâÀooks like the best time to meet will be Wednesday Oct > >LH]ÜHQ‚‚â( ®( ¤Þ(¢” å½Ô Ñ¡•¸„(ø€> Raff > >ˆ‚ˆˆ2á°àˆue, Oct 3, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < > >ˆˆraffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > ‚‚àø > !•Â±±¼°(ø€>‚â¸dŽ(¬9µ….( Ü8…Þ(J%¼9Å•²••Õ¾(J,8Œ0˜\È™\žH[ [today, so we are > >ø .±hVø¡(ˆ2áˆ8 &°é°íÑ¸€€ W"ÖVWFærf÷"æW€t week > either Wednesday or Thursday (as I'll > >> be > >> > away > >ˆòá°æðâ0æVV°ç0â8 .°ç8 ºH›ÝÊKˆHYXH\ÈÈ›ØÝ\ÈÛˆÝ\ÝÀmizing the content > >ˆðæVðæráÖÖVÈ8 .x &°è0î >²á›X\ÙHš[\ÈÀodle poll with your availability > >> if you're > >ˆ[\™@sted >ˆ1¤°è°«pè‰Ñ°«M¸ %°«péœÈ8 «0îˆÎ‹ËÙÛÙK˜ÛÛ@/poll/pmyppcwwcsk9bfu7 >ˆîƒŠk™\ÝƒŠ >³àøI…™˜ > >ˆˆ2áˆ8 &ˆ2á°è8 «0î8 «00 >0î8 «ZKXÛÝ[˜Ú[XZ[@ng list >ˆ2á’Ö0æðçVòç0æ×0çpâÈ’Ö0â(¬9Î(J"¸l¸n(œ8¼9°\ÝË›\ÝÈ >«ZKXË›Ü™ËÛXZ[X[‹Û\Ý[™›ËÝZKXÛÝ[˜Ú[€ > >ˆˆPTÑH“ÕE: postings to this list are publicly archived >ˆÐˆ2áXÛÝ[˜Ú[XZ[[™È\Ý‚âFV’Ö6÷Væ6Älists.tei-c.org > >ˆ‹ËÛ\ÝË›\ÝËZKXË›Ü™ËÛXZ[X[€/listinfo/tei-council > >‚ˆˆPTÑH“ÕNˆÜÝ[™ÜÈÈthis list are publicly archived >ˆ8 >.RÒ’Ö0æðçVòç0æÖÀX¡(°â0çH’Ö0æðçVòç0æ×0çpâÈ’Ö0â(*Æ÷&p >ø¡ÑÑ(¼½±¥ÍÑÌ¸lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >> > >> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------- >SRS‘“È’PBˆK[XZ[ˆXšXP[Z™\‚ˆÒSÈHSRBˆCentro de Investigación Operativa >\\[Y[ÈH\Ý@dística, Matemáticas e Informática >0à\™XHH[™ÝXZ™@s y Sistemas Informáticos > > >[š]™\œÚYYZYÝY[\›°è@ndez >YˆÜœ™][X\š]]‹ˆ[š]™\œÚYYËÛ‹ÔŒÌŒ‹Elche, ESPAÑA > > Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ > > Tel: +34 966658973 > > Móvil: +34 644447008 >ÚÞ\Nˆ[^X€ia > > Twitter: @alex_bia > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > -- >ZKXÛÝ[˜Ú[XZ[[™È\Àt >ZKXÛÝ[˜Ú[\ÝËZKXË›Ü™Â‚‡GG¢òöÆ—7G2æÆ—7G2çFV’Ðc.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-coun… >ˆPTÑH“ÕNˆÜÝ@ngs to this list are publicly archived > > >-- >tei-council mailing list >tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived --------------------------------------------------------- ALEJANDRO BIA e-mail: abia(a)umh.es CIO - DEMI Centro de Investigación Operativa Departamento de Estadística, Matemáticas e Informática Área de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos Universidad Miguel Hernández Ed. 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att.editLike should not bring att.dimensions & att.ranging
by Syd Bauman 27 Oct '17

27 Oct '17

Re: https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/299 It has been over 13 months since we agreed we would "review the list (from June 2013) one more time and then do it." I made a nice table of that list, and no one added *anything* to it. I've now made a new copy of that table that incorporates Alexey Lavrentev's actual opinion. Could each of you please think about this for a few mins, and add your initials to the table? Or at least post "I don't care", so we know to move on w/o you. BTW, there is considerable disagreement in how we should proceed, so it would be good if quite a few people could voice opinions, soon.

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