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by Bauman, Syd 09 Dec '22

09 Dec '22

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Call in 30 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 08 Dec '22

08 Dec '22

Dear all, Our call starts in 30 minutes https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LOLK_k75_mDU5ZFRZVfUIl8Jqbk3KdkNmsptP5S… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next meeting: Thu, Dec 8
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 07 Dec '22

07 Dec '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our next meeting tomorrow, Dec 8, at 8am PST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LOLK_k75_mDU5ZFRZVfUIl8Jqbk3KdkNmsptP5S… The zoom link is in the google doc. Please feel free to add topics that you would like to discuss. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Stylesheets meeting in an hour
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 01 Dec '22

01 Dec '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place at 15.30Z (8.30 PDT, 11.30 EDT, 17.30 CEST). Here is the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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sometimes size does matter
by Bauman, Syd 30 Nov '22

30 Nov '22

I ran a time comparison of make clean validate html-web test exemplars from the released branch on 5 different machines. This was not a rigorous test, more of a semi-controlled casual comparison. The main failure for good control was that (in some cases) there were different error messages, because different systems fail to run certain things in different ways. But on quick check by eye, in no case was this a large contributing factor. (This could be rectified by doing it right, i.e. by doing it in the docker container on each machine. But several of these machines are too old or under-resourced to run docker. I will probably do the docker test on the 3 fastest of them some day.) The other control failure is that although I quit most other running programs (except, of course, Emacs, as I was running the build in Emacs, and did not check that it was the same version of Emacs), I did not check for running background daemons, etc. In any case, the results follow. Only the top one runs MacOS, all others run Ubuntu or Lubuntu. 2010 MacBook Air, Core 2 Duo @ 1.6 GHz: 28:17.1 Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 11e, Core M-5Y10c @ 2.0 GHz: 12:48.5 2013 MacBook Pro, Core i5-4258U @ 2.4 GHz: 8:04.5 i7-4790K @ 4.0 GHz: 4:09.7 i9-13900K @ 1.1 & 3.0 GHz: 1:30.6 (Note: The i9 seems to have some cores that run at ~1.1 GHz, and others that run at 3 GHz.) Thus the fastest machine is ~18.6 times faster than the slowest.

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Welcome Joey
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 24 Nov '22

24 Nov '22

Dear Joey, Welcome to the TEI Technical Council! We are looking forward to working together. Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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Next Stylesheets meeting: December 1st
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 22 Nov '22

22 Nov '22

Dear all, The next Stylesheets meeting will take place on Thursday December 1st at 15.30Z (8.30 PDT, 11.30 EDT, 17.30 CEST). We should dedicate some minutes to discuss the oXygen plugin. I seem to remember that in the Council meeting we agreed to continue the discussion during this meeting (it’s not explicit in the minutes, so correct me if I am wrong). Afterwards, we will tackle some issues that need discussion. As always, do not hesitate to add other items to the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…>. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHIhvuNTISCrlMZDZx7jkVbDt8teivQTbJrF0EV…> Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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another freakin' inconsistency
by Bauman, Syd 14 Nov '22

14 Nov '22

I am writing here instead of on a Github ticket as this is either a Guidelines issue (if we decide to encode consistently) or a Stylesheets issue (if we decide to present consistently). Sigh. Right now there appear to be roughly 3700 apostrophes in P5.[1] Of those, 3490 are encoded with U+0027 and 241 with U+2019.[2,3] Of course, many of these are inside <egXML>, and thus maybe should be left alone; and some are inside comments (or maybe PIs), and we probably don’t care at all how they are encoded. So, refining the search to exclude those, there are only 2853 apostrophes,[4] of which 2689 are U+0027 and 190 are U+2019.[5,6] Those that are encoded as U+0027 show up as U+0027 in the HTML output of the Guidelines. I think that is a sin. The question is, what do we want to do about this? The following are (roughly) in my order of preference: 1. Change all the apostrophes to U+0027 in the encoded files, and change the Stylesheets to produce U+2019 on output. Update TCW20 or whatever to match. (I.e. to tell people to use U+0027, not U+2019.) 2. Leave the inconsistent encoding, and don’t bother to update the documentation, but change the Stylesheets so the output is more readable. 3. Change all the apostrophes to U+2019 in the encoded files and update documentation to match. (I.e. to tell people to use U+2019, not U+0027.) Also need to add some checks to the build process to prevent U+0027 from slipping in. 4. Change all the apostrophes to U+0027 in the encoded files, but do not change the Stylesheets, thus leaving our output ugly. 5. Leave things alone. commands used [1] egrep -c "[^=]['’][a-z]" P5/p5.xml [2] egrep -c "[^=]'[a-z]" P5/p5.xml [3] egrep -c "[^=]’[a-z]" P5/p5.xml [4] xsel -t -m "//t:*/text()" -v "." -n P5/p5.xml | egrep -c "['’][a-z]" [5] xsel -t -m "//t:*/text()" -v "." -n P5/p5.xml | egrep -c "'[a-z]" [6] xsel -t -m "//t:*/text()" -v "." -n P5/p5.xml | egrep -c "’[a-z]" [7] Note: xsel is an alias for an xmlstarlet sel command that binds “t:” to the TEI namespace. Thus the above 3 commands ignore elements in any other namespace, particularly the TEI Examples namespace.

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November Stylesheets Meeting
by BERMUDEZ SABEL Helena 13 Nov '22

13 Nov '22

Hello! The November Stylesheets meeting was originally scheduled on November 24th but I am in another event during those days and many members of Council might be also celebrating Thanksgiving Day. I was wondering if we could just put it off to one week later and have the meeting on December 1st at the usual time (8:00 PST, 11:00 EST, 16:00 UTC, 17:00 CET). Just in case, I added other options to the Doodle: https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/ejZ645We Best, H. [Université de Neuchâtel]<https://www.unine.ch/> Helena Bermúdez Sabel Post-doctorante FNS Institute des sciences du langage Université de Neuchâtel Rue Pierre-à-Mazel 7 CH-2000 Neuchâtel Tél. +41 32 718 16 21 www.unine.ch/isla<http://www.unine.ch/isla>

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Council meeting in 45 minutes
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 10 Nov '22

10 Nov '22

Dear all, This is the agenda for our meeting in 45 minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11jqtKjPZN4NLHP26CzyS3ftoypvOe2fmTG5-isK… Best, Martina Dr. Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modeling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz A-8010 Graz | Elisabethstraße 59/III +43 316 380 2291 http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<http://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | http://gams.uni-graz.at<http://gams.uni-graz.at/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://www.tei-c.org/ Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://www.i-d-e.de/

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