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Re: [tei-council] Simple : victory declared, going home.
by Lou Burnard 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

Hi Martin Thanks for your quick reaction. I hope you'll find time to re-read and nitpick the text of the document in the near future: there are undoubtedly passages that need some further work. Just a few comments on your more general comments below: On 29/07/16 14:53, Martin Mueller wrote: > > From the perspective of the newcomer it may be confusing that there is > something called TEI Lite and TEI Simple. The newcomer, however, may not > discover either because on the TEI Web site they are squirreled away under > the subheading "Customization." That's a fair point, which I hope the designers of the new Website will take on board. In French, rather than "customization", we tend to say "personnalisation" which sounds more, um, personal. But clearly the website ought to alert the first time reader to the fact that (a) the DTD is not a single monolithic entity (b) amongst its many incarnations, Simple is a good starting point for a range of applications. > > Assuming newcomers discover both Lite and Simple they may ask "Which > should I use?" Indeed. They may also ask wonder whether maybe TEI_bare would be suitable. Or Epidoc, or any of a number of other possibilities. > And if they look at the documentation they may be confused > by the fact that, leaving aside the Processing Model, the documentation > for the two customizations is virtually the same. Much of it is the same. But there is also quite a lot that's different. Lite represents the state of the TEI of about 10 years ago, when we deliberately decided not to adapt it further, but move it to a "bugfix only" state of support. Simple has some (though not all) of what we've learned in the last decade. > So for most practical purposes TEI Simple is TEI Lite with a Processing > Model, a few elements removed on the basis of usage figure, and a few > elements added. I think that's an oversimplification. There are a few policy-like decisions reflected in Simple which are not in Lite: e.g. use of @ref rather than @key, use of @rendition rather than @rend. > From which I draw the conclusion that Lite and Simple should be merged, > given a name that more accurately describes what either of them can do, > and put very prominently as the recommended point of entry into the TEI > world. I couldn't agree less. They are different documents, representing a consensus as to what's a useful minimal subset at different times in different situations. You could argue that Simple should *replace* Lite possibly, but "merging" makes no sense at all. > > I have spent a fair amount of time with versions of the Best Practices in > Libraries document.By far the most important section of that document has > always been "Level 4". Much can be said in favour of merging Level 4 with > that general introduction. Time and energy are in short supply, and > maintaining one entry-level version with really good documentation is a > lot better than sort of supporting three. Besides, "TEI in Libraries" is a > very different thing from what it was twenty years ago. The modal library > TEI project may no longer be something like "Wright American fiction." > It's more likely to be some project where a faculty member or student goes > to the Library for some help because the Library is the go to place for DH > stuff. That's the case at Northwestern, and it's the case in many other > places. I have no views on BPL. Though it would obviously be nice to know what that group thinks of Simple's header section.

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Agenda for Friday
by Hugh Cayless 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

Hi All, Here's the draft agenda for our meeting on the 29th at 09:00 EST / 14:00 BST / 15:00 CEST: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wHUlbsZSOEeeGDXqHR3gnp9c4LILL-hlpy8DXK… As always, please add any items you want to discuss.

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f2f council logistics
by Stefan Majewski 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

Hi, just returned from a fortnight of cycling through Europe. Offline. I noticed that people started discussing where to stay. Unfortunately, accomodation in Vienna is well booked as there are floods of tourists through all seasons and hotels for this reason usually don't give special deals (at least not without prepayment, which most institutions cannot do). Something from 80 to 120 EUR a night is quite normal for accommodation in a rather central location. Public transport is very efficient, though. I would try to get something in walking distance to the venue. The closest and still rather inexpensive choice is Hotel Post [1] (2 available)(646EUR/7Nights), there is a Pension Dr. Greissler very close that looks nice and is also close to the venue. I do not have experience with them but the have a good deal today on booking.com [2] 665EUR/7Nights. And there are some others not far that look quite good [3]. We have a room from Sunday to Wednesday morning. Sunday will be a smaller room, where we most likely will have to arrange for food and coffee on our own. I hope that we can coordinate with the workshops and other activites Mo-Tue for catering (CC@tei2016 for that purpose) cheers, Stefan [1] http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/post-wien.de.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr… [2] http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/pension-dr-geissler.de.html?aid=304142;labe… [3] http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/parkview-residences.de.html?aid=304142;labe… I filtered by up to 150 EUR and vienna city centre, hope this is somewhat persistent. Everything within the inner ring-like central street should be roughtly walking distance. The conference venue is in the north-western quarter of the ring: http://www.booking.com/searchresults.de.html?aid=304142&label=gen173nr-1DCA…

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simple : attribute classes and valLists
by Lou Burnard 28 Jul '16

28 Jul '16

Today I have been mostly looking at attribute classes and valLists 1. deleted att.declaring (not much point in keeping it, since att.declarable is already gone) 2. Simplified att.editLike by - deleting @evidence and @instant - deleting @precision from att.dimension - deleting att.ranging I wrote a stylesheet to re-insert valLists supplied by the ODD into the body of the text (there are about five of them). In the process I noticed that one of my favourite examples is no longer viable. It starts like this: On those remote pages it is written that animals are divided into <list rendition="#runOn"> <item n="a">those that belong to the Emperor,</item> <item n="b"> embalmed ones, </item> <item n="c"> those that are trained, </item> <item n="d"> suckling pigs, </item> ... There is no simple:runOn rendition defined anywhere, so that @rendition value is dead in the water. And maybe it should be a @type="runOn" anyway. What do you suggest? At this late stage, despite the pain, I am tending to think I may have to sacrifice the whole example.

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Build failed in Jenkins: TEIP5-Documentation-dev #2196
by Victoria TEI Jenkins 25 Jul '16

25 Jul '16

See <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/2196/changes> Changes: [martindholmes] Trying to fix a third unwrapped example causing horizontal scrolling, ------------------------------------------ Started by upstream project "TEIP5-Test-dev" build number 2914 originally caused by: Started by an SCM change Building in workspace <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/> > git rev-parse --is-inside-work-tree # timeout=10 Fetching changes from the remote Git repository > git config remote.origin.url https://github.com/TEIC/TEI.git # timeout=10 Fetching upstream changes from https://github.com/TEIC/TEI.git > git --version # timeout=10 > git -c core.askpass=true fetch --tags --progress https://github.com/TEIC/TEI.git +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* > git rev-parse refs/remotes/origin/dev^{commit} # timeout=10 > git rev-parse refs/remotes/origin/origin/dev^{commit} # timeout=10 Checking out Revision 1b9514167249dddc0fb478af41c76edcbf6918c7 (refs/remotes/origin/dev) > git config core.sparsecheckout # timeout=10 > git checkout -f 1b9514167249dddc0fb478af41c76edcbf6918c7 > git rev-list e079d7e2ec3f504d5900b527769307177c49cb80 # timeout=10 [workspace] $ /bin/bash -xe /tmp/hudson1628410566021146508.sh + svn update Skipped '.' 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Ant:/usr/bin/ant Perl:/usr/bin/perl Java:/usr/bin/java xmllint:/usr/bin/xmllint touch check.stamp get latest date: VCS is git if [ "git" = "svn" ] ; \ then \ if [ true = "true" ] ; \ then svn info --xml svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/tei/code/trunk/P5 ; \ else svn info --xml ; \ fi > repodate.xml ; \ fi if [ git = "git" ] ; \ then \ git log --max-count=1 --pretty=format:"<info type=\"git\"><entry><commit revision=\"%h\"><date>%ai</date></commit></entry></info>" > repodate.xml ; \ fi BUILD: Generate modular DTDs, Schemas, Schematron and miscellaneous outputs ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -q -lib Utilities/lib/jing.jar:Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -f antbuilder.xml -DXSL=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> -DDRIVER=Source/guidelines-en.xml base subset outputs [echo] make modular DTDs, RELAXNG schemas, json, odd schemas, schematron files [echo] Using <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> for XSL stylesheets [echo] Do ODD processing for p5odds.odd [echo] Do ODD processing for p5odds-examples.odd BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 42 seconds BUILD: Generate modular RELAX NG (compact) schemas using trang (cd Schema; for i in *rng; do java -jar ../Utilities/lib/trang.jar $i `basename $i .rng`.rnc;done) touch schemas.stamp BUILD: Making HTML Guidelines for language en rm -rf Guidelines-web perl -p -e \ "s+http://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet+<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…;> \ s+/usr/share/xml/tei/stylesheet+<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…;"> \ Utilities/guidelines.xsl.model > Utilities/guidelines.xsl if [ -n ] ; then curl -s http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml | sed 's/content="text\/html"/content="text\/html; charset=utf-8"/' | xmllint --html --noent --dropdtd --xmlout - > Utilities/teic-index.xml;fi -:9: HTML parser error : Unexpected end tag : p Reason: Error reading from remote server ^ for i in en ;do \ mkdir -p Guidelines-web/$i/html; \ cp odd.css guidelines.css guidelines-print.css Guidelines-web/$i/html; \ (cd Source/Guidelines/en; tar --exclude .svn -c -f - Images) | (cd Guidelines-web/$i/html; tar xf - );\ (cd webnav; tar --exclude .svn -c -f - .) | (cd Guidelines-web/$i/html; tar xf - ); \ done echo '<project basedir="." default="html" name="buildweb"><import file="antbuildweb.xml"/><target name="html">' \ > buildweb.xml for i in en ;do \ echo "<buildweb lang=\"$i\"/>" >> buildweb.xml; \ done echo '</target></project>' >> buildweb.xml ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -q -lib Utilities/lib/jing.jar:Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -f buildweb.xml -DgoogleAnalytics= [echo] Make Guidelines web pages for language en BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 53 seconds # commented out for DEBUGing: rm -f buildweb.xml Utilities/teic-index.xml touch html-web.stamp ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -q -f <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> -lib Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -Dprofiledir=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> -Dprofile=tei -DinputFile=`pwd`/p5.xml -DoutputFile=`pwd`/Guidelines.epub -Dcoverimage=`pwd`/Utilities/cover.jpg BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 56 seconds java -jar Utilities/epubcheck3.jar Guidelines.epub Epubcheck Version 3.0.1 Validating against EPUB version 3.0 No errors or warnings detected. check if XeLaTeX exist /usr/bin/xelatex perl -p -e \ "s+http://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet+<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…;> \ s+/usr/share/xml/tei/stylesheet+<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…;"> \ Utilities/guidelines-latex.xsl > Utilities/guidelines.xsl BUILD: build Lite version of Guidelines, then LaTeX version of Guidelines from Lite, then run to PDF using XeLaTeX Make sure you have Junicode, Arphic and Mincho fonts installed ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -q -lib Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -f antbuilder.xml -DXSL=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Documentation-dev/ws/P5/../../../S…> -DXELATEX=xelatex pdfonce [echo] make LaTeX and PDF BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 1 minute 19 seconds Build step 'Console output (build log) parsing' changed build result to FAILURE

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Re: [tei-council] Simple : facsimile
by James Cummings 25 Jul '16

25 Jul '16

That is how I would have suggested doing it. So works for me. James -- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford On 23 Jul 2016 09:09, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote: Also, having looked more closely, it seems that if you want to encode page openings, you're probably better off encoding the opening as a single surface and each page as zone within it, since you can't define a coordinate system for a pageGrp. So, pending further clarification of this issue, surfaceGrp is OUT. On 22/07/16 20:48, Lou Burnard wrote: > In general, I am all in favour of reducing complexity in Simple, as I > hope is by now evident. But I seriously do think we should include > surfaceGrp, because the distinction between a single page (a surface) > and a page opening (a surfaceGrp containing two surfaces) is a crucial > one for many people. But I can survive being outvoted! > > > On 22/07/16 20:43, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) > wrote: >> +1 >> >> Best, Martina >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org >> [mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org] Im Auftrag von James >> Cummings >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 19:35 >> An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >> Betreff: Re: [tei-council] Simple : facsimile >> >> >> Sure, I agree. Just suggesting that if you are grouping surfaces and >> such then you are starting to leave the realm of Simple and should >> maybe do your own customisation. ;-) >> >> -James >> >> On 21/07/16 18:34, Lou Burnard wrote: >>> Just to repeat, what I said below, surfaceGrp is nothing to do with >>> sourceDoc. It's for grouping surfaces such as page openings, or faces >>> of a monument. >>> >>> >>> On 21/07/16 19:29, James Cummings wrote: >>>> I'm understanding this discussion correctly (and I've just skimmed it >>>> in a hurry), then I would be saying that we want facsimile, surface, >>>> zone, and graphic, but don't want surfaceGrp, line or sourceDoc. >>>> >>>> i.e. we want to be able to do TEI Simple facsimiles as long as they >>>> are basic, but not sourceDoc non-interpretative transcriptions. If >>>> you need surfaceGrp or sourceDoc, in my mind what you are doing isn't >>>> Simple. ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> -James >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21/07/16 17:42, Lou Burnard wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 21/07/16 15:50, Scholger, Martina >>>>> (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) wrote: >>>>>> I think that <surfaceGrp> goes beyond a Simple document, therefore >>>>>> I would remove it. >>>>> Well, my reasoning is that whether or not you're doing transcription >>>>> you will definitely want some way of distinguishing between single >>>>> page images and images of a page opening, which is precisely ewhat >>>>> surfaceGrp is for, imho. >>>>> >>>>>> Concerning the <line>: If I understand it correctly, <sourceDoc> is >>>>>> not provided within a Simple document? >>>>> Krekt >>>>> >>>>>> Is it meant to have a transcription within <facsimile> instead? >>>>>> I don't think that <facsimile> should contain a transcription (see >>>>>> also line 790-793 in tei_simple.odd: "A more powerful approach, >>>>>> discussed in section <ptr target="#simple-facs"/> below, is to use >>>>>> the <gi>facsimile</gi> element to define the organization of the >>>>>> set of images representing the text, and then use >>>>>> the <att>facs</att> attribute to point to individual components of >>>>>> that representation.") >>>>> Agreed, that putting transcription inside <zone> seems a bit >>>>> (ahem) odd, but you still need to ability to identify zones on an >>>>> image, whether or not you put text inside them, and the content >>>>> model for <zone> allows text. >>>>> Are you are saying that it should actually be forbidden if the >>>>> ancestor of <zone> is a <facsimile> rather than a <sourceDoc>? >>>>>> Therefore I wouldn't restore <line>. >>>>> Understood. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>>>> Von: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org >>>>>> [mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org] Im Auftrag von Lou >>>>>> Burnard >>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 13:42 >>>>>> An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org; Martin Mueller >>>>>> Betreff: [tei-council] Simple : facsimile >>>>>> >>>>>> The schema currently makes available within <facsimile> : >>>>>> surface, surfaceGrp, and zone, but not line. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that balance about right? Should I restore <line> (which is >>>>>> sugar for <zone type="line">) ? Should I remove <surfaceGrp>? >>>>>> >>>>>> The purpose is to support a Simple document which contains just >>>>>> images and the lightest of transcriptions, such as you might get >>>>>> from a crowd sourcing transcription experiment for example, not to >>>>>> do full blown genetic transcriptions, obvs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> tei-council mailing list >>>>>> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >>>>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>>>>> >>>>>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>>> >> >> -- >> Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk Academic IT Services, >> University of Oxford >> -- >> tei-council mailing list >> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >> >> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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Simple : facsimile
by Lou Burnard 23 Jul '16

23 Jul '16

The schema currently makes available within <facsimile> : surface, surfaceGrp, and zone, but not line. Is that balance about right? Should I restore <line> (which is sugar for <zone type="line">) ? Should I remove <surfaceGrp>? The purpose is to support a Simple document which contains just images and the lightest of transcriptions, such as you might get from a crowd sourcing transcription experiment for example, not to do full blown genetic transcriptions, obvs.

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July meeting poll
by Hugh Cayless 21 Jul '16

21 Jul '16

Please fill in your availability at: https://doodle.com/poll/m79mta983dd32ree Thanks, Hugh Sent from my phone.

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Re: [tei-council] Re : Krakow Council meeting at DH2016
by James Cummings 21 Jul '16

21 Jul '16

Hi Lou, I've started thinking about Simplifying person/place/org. How do you want my proposal? I could just provide an explanation and examples or would you prefer an elementSpec? James -- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford On 15 Jul 2016 11:02 a.m., Lou Burnard <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote: If you do, May i politely request some discussion of tei simple And how to move it on ? Sent from my Honor Mobile -------- Message original -------- Objet : Re: [tei-council] Krakow Council meeting at DH2016 De : Hugh Cayless À : tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Cc : Thanks for trying Elisa! Yeah, let's meet for lunch if we can. Sent from my phone. > On Jul 14, 2016, at 23:22, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Council, > Since many of us on Council are here in Krakow for the ADHO 2016 conference, at the June Council meeting I volunteered to try to organize us on site. The conference organizers were really helpful in promising to provide us a room as soon as we determined a time for tomorrow afternoon, but because we were all (me included) distracted by sessions and likely to be distracted by them again tomorrow, I think it’s surely too late now to try to organize a virtual meeting. I herewith give up on that, with apologies, but I hope that we Council members on site will at least get together during lunch (at 1pm here in Krakow). Elli has a lunch meeting and could only join at 2, and when we realized that, plus the attractiveness of the afternoon session, we felt as if we’d best just take in the conference tomorrow and not try to organize a hangout session. > > Looking forward to Raff’s paper tomorrow! > Elisa > > -- > Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD > Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English > University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division > 150 Finoli Drive > Greensburg, PA 15601 USA > E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> > Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > > > > > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: Friday, I think! Re: Question re Meeting Space Re: DH2016 Last-minute housekeeping >> Date: July 14, 2016 at 6:12:34 PM GMT+2 >> To: Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> >> Cc: Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller(a)uni-koeln.de>, info(a)dh2016.org, michalchoinski(a)gmail.com, Elli Mylonas <elli_mylonas(a)brown.edu>, James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk>, Raffaele Viglianti <rviglian(a)umd.edu>, Magdalena Turska <tuurma(a)gmail.com>, Martina Scholger <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at> >> >> Was there any followup on this? Should we make alternate plans? >> >> Sent from my phone. >> >>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 17:53, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> Our full complement is seven, and I believe I’ve had contact with everyone now: I think Friday afternoon / evening is the preferred moment for our special meeting of the TEI Council during the ADHO conference. Can we arrange something? >>> >>> Many thanks, from the end of the very wonderful eXist workshop! >>> Elisa >>> -- >>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>> 150 Finoli Drive >>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all from the eXist workshop— I meant to copy Magdalena on this, which means i think that we have six of us potentially meeting. How does everyone feel about Friday afternoon or evening? >>>> >>>> Elisa >>>> -- >>>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>>> 150 Finoli Drive >>>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller(a)uni-koeln.de <mailto:manfred.thaller@uni-koeln.de>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Jan, >>>>> MSK seems to be free Tuesday 12th between 1 pm and the opening; also on Wednesday before 11:30 am; also on Thursday after 1 pm; Friday between 1 pm and closing. >>>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> if Jan does not contradict, I'd propose you use that. >>>>> >>>>> "MSK": go to http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/ <http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/> click on blue flag. >>>>> >>>>> (And let info(a)dh2016.org <mailto:info@dh2016.org> come know, when you intend to occupy the room; if possible before you do so.) >>>>> >>>>> Travel safely, >>>>> Manfred >>>>> >>>>>> Am 08.07.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Elisa Beshero-Bondar: >>>>>> Dear conference organizers (cc: Elli Mylonas, James Cummings, Raffaele Viglianti,, and Hugh Cayless), >>>>>> Here is a challenging question: About half of the TEI Technical Council will be attending DH 2016, and we would like to arrange a special TEI Council meeting while we are here. We realize this is tremendously last-minute, but we are wondering what you might recommend for us. There are just five of us, and we’re wondering if we can locate a small meeting room with strong internet access on campus where we can hold a teleconference call with other Council members who can’t be here—and we might get some pressing Council work done together. We’d like to do this for a couple of hours in the late afternoon or evening one day of the conference, say between Tuesday and Friday next week. I have been working at the Jagiellonian Library today and was issued a library card with its own internet access, and I have already set up edu-roam which is working well for me here. I inquired of the library staff if we might be able to book a small meeting space in the late afternoon/evening sometime next week, and they said they would look but were not optimistic because of the late notice. I thought I would write to you to see if you could recommend any good campus locations for this (or at least some place with stronger connectivity than a cafe in town). >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks! I realize this is a challenging question on such short notice! >>>>>> Elisa >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>>>>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>>>>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>>>>> 150 Finoli Drive >>>>>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>>>>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>>>>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:16 AM, <mailto:info@dh2016.org>info(a)dh2016.org <mailto:info@dh2016.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Participants of DH2016, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is some last-minute housekeeping before we kick off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Numbers >>>>>>> We are now, apparently, 870 strong. No comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Directions >>>>>>> Thanks to suggestions from many sides, we’ve updated, again, the conference map at http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdh2016.adho…>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fun Run >>>>>>> A running tour to the Kościuszko Mound. Distance: 8 km (ca. 55 min). Meeting point: Auditorium Maximum. It’s offered twice. Time: Tuesday (12 July), 7 a.m. and Friday (15 July), 7 a.m. Please sign up at this Doodle, http://doodle.com/poll/wfkvdgtfvp69m2pk <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdoodle.com%…>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Weather >>>>>>> The current weather forecast (http://dh2016.adho.org/weather/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdh2016.adho…>) promises (?) a pleasant and sunny Sunday, a very hot Monday and Tuesday, the latter ending with a thunderstorm; then Wednesday and Thursday might be warm and offer some rain (hence the last-minute addition of raincoats into your conference packs) and a sunny but not hot Friday. Right now, the outlook for Saturday is cloudy, but we’re speaking to various authorities to make it better for the Excursion Day. Speaking of which… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Excursions >>>>>>> Our tour operator will maintain a presence at the main conference building, so if you decide to go on a trip only now, not all is lost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See you very, very soon, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maciej Eder & Jan Rybicki >>>>>>> For the whole DH2016 organizing team >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Prof. em. Dr. Manfred Thaller >>>>> Zuletzt Universität zu Köln / >>>>> Formerly University at Cologne > > -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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Simple : @key or @ref
by Lou Burnard 21 Jul '16

21 Jul '16

I am still toiling in this vineyard. Here's a new question for you to consider. The Simple schema makes available both @ref and @key on both <name> and <rs>. In the prose however only <rs key="arbitrarytoken"> is presented. This seems counter to our current dogma, which would prioritize <name ref="#pointer"> wherever possible, I believe. Since I've now added <particDesc> and hence <person> is available, it would seem better to rework some (or all?) the examples to use that mechanism, e.g. <name ref="#BENM2">Mrs Bennet</name> rather than <rs key="BENM2">

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Build failed in Jenkins: TEIP5-Test-dev #2886
by Victoria TEI Jenkins 19 Jul '16

19 Jul '16

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external catalogs will be ignored rng: [echo] XSLT generate RELAXNG detest.rng [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.odd.pro…> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.rng> [xslt] Loading stylesheet /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Stylesheets-dev/lastSuccessful/archive/dist/xml/tei/stylesheet/profiles/default/relaxng/to.xsl Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored isoschematron: [echo] XSLT generate ISO schematron detest.isosch from compiled ODD [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.odd.pro…> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.isosch> [xslt] Loading stylesheet /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Stylesheets-dev/lastSuccessful/archive/dist/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/extract-isosch.xsl [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.isosch> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.xsl> [xslt] Loading stylesheet <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Utilities/iso_schem…> cleanup: [delete] Deleting: <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.odd.pro…> BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 14 seconds java -jar ../Utilities/lib/trang.jar detest.rng detest.rnc Validate ODD file using Schematron ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -lib ../Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar:../Utilities/lib/jing.jar -Dtrang=../Utilities/lib/trang.jar -DdefaultSource=`pwd`/../p5subset.xml -DXSL=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/../../../Stylesheet…> -f antruntest.xml -Doutputname=detest -DoddFile=detest.odd validateodd > detest1.log 2>&1 Validate ODD file using RELAX NG schema rnv detest.rnc detest.xml > detest2.log 2>&1 make[1]: [detest] Error 1 (ignored) Validate XML file using Schematron java -Xmx752m -jar ../Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -ext:on detest.xml detest.xsl > detest3.log 2>&1 grep "\[xslt\]" detest1.log | sed 's/Processing.*detest.odd//' | sed 's/Loading.*message.isosch.xsl//' > detest.log sed 's/.*detest.xml:/detest.xml:/' detest2.log >> detest.log sed 's/.*detest.xml:/detest.xml:/' detest3.log >> detest.log diff detest.log expected-results/detest.log 2a3,34 > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "remarks" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "desc" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "gloss" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "desc" are required when it is a child of "attDef". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "gloss" are required when it is a child of "attDef". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "remarks" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] It does not make sense to make "ONE" the default value of @default-is-in-list-req, because that attribute is required. (tei:defaultVal) > [xslt] It does not make sense to make "ONE" the default value of @default-NOT-in-list-req, because that attribute is required. (tei:defaultVal) > [xslt] In the elementSpec defining > [xslt] blort2 the default value of the > [xslt] @default-NOT-in-list-opt attribute is not among the closed list of possible > [xslt] values (string(tei:defaultVal) = tei:valList/tei:valItem/@ident) > [xslt] In the elementSpec defining > [xslt] blort2 the default value of the > [xslt] @default-NOT-in-list-rec attribute is not among the closed list of possible > [xslt] values (string(tei:defaultVal) = tei:valList/tei:valItem/@ident) > [xslt] In the elementSpec defining > [xslt] blort2 the default value of the > [xslt] @default-NOT-in-list-req attribute is not among the closed list of possible > [xslt] values (string(tei:defaultVal) = tei:valList/tei:valItem/@ident) make[1]: *** [detest] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test'> make: *** [test] Error 2 Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure

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Tonight
by Raffaele Viglianti 15 Jul '16

15 Jul '16

Apologies for the blatant spam to those non attending DH2016. Is anyone *not* going to the banquet tonight? Elena Pierazzo and I are going to eat somewhere in the Jewish quarter and are looking for companions :) Let me know, maybe better off list. Raff

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Krakow Council meeting at DH2016
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 15 Jul '16

15 Jul '16

Dear Council, Since many of us on Council are here in Krakow for the ADHO 2016 conference, at the June Council meeting I volunteered to try to organize us on site. The conference organizers were really helpful in promising to provide us a room as soon as we determined a time for tomorrow afternoon, but because we were all (me included) distracted by sessions and likely to be distracted by them again tomorrow, I think it’s surely too late now to try to organize a virtual meeting. I herewith give up on that, with apologies, but I hope that we Council members on site will at least get together during lunch (at 1pm here in Krakow). Elli has a lunch meeting and could only join at 2, and when we realized that, plus the attractiveness of the afternoon session, we felt as if we’d best just take in the conference tomorrow and not try to organize a hangout session. Looking forward to Raff’s paper tomorrow! Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Friday, I think! Re: Question re Meeting Space Re: DH2016 Last-minute housekeeping > Date: July 14, 2016 at 6:12:34 PM GMT+2 > To: Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller(a)uni-koeln.de>, info(a)dh2016.org, michalchoinski(a)gmail.com, Elli Mylonas <elli_mylonas(a)brown.edu>, James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk>, Raffaele Viglianti <rviglian(a)umd.edu>, Magdalena Turska <tuurma(a)gmail.com>, Martina Scholger <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at> > > Was there any followup on this? Should we make alternate plans? > > Sent from my phone. > > On Jul 11, 2016, at 17:53, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> Our full complement is seven, and I believe I’ve had contact with everyone now: I think Friday afternoon / evening is the preferred moment for our special meeting of the TEI Council during the ADHO conference. Can we arrange something? >> >> Many thanks, from the end of the very wonderful eXist workshop! >> Elisa >> -- >> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >> 150 Finoli Drive >> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all from the eXist workshop— I meant to copy Magdalena on this, which means i think that we have six of us potentially meeting. How does everyone feel about Friday afternoon or evening? >>> >>> Elisa >>> -- >>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>> 150 Finoli Drive >>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller(a)uni-koeln.de <mailto:manfred.thaller@uni-koeln.de>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Jan, >>>> MSK seems to be free Tuesday 12th between 1 pm and the opening; also on Wednesday before 11:30 am; also on Thursday after 1 pm; Friday between 1 pm and closing. >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> if Jan does not contradict, I'd propose you use that. >>>> >>>> "MSK": go to http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/ <http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/> click on blue flag. >>>> >>>> (And let info(a)dh2016.org <mailto:info@dh2016.org> come know, when you intend to occupy the room; if possible before you do so.) >>>> >>>> Travel safely, >>>> Manfred >>>> >>>> Am 08.07.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Elisa Beshero-Bondar: >>>>> Dear conference organizers (cc: Elli Mylonas, James Cummings, Raffaele Viglianti,, and Hugh Cayless), >>>>> Here is a challenging question: About half of the TEI Technical Council will be attending DH 2016, and we would like to arrange a special TEI Council meeting while we are here. We realize this is tremendously last-minute, but we are wondering what you might recommend for us. There are just five of us, and we’re wondering if we can locate a small meeting room with strong internet access on campus where we can hold a teleconference call with other Council members who can’t be here—and we might get some pressing Council work done together. We’d like to do this for a couple of hours in the late afternoon or evening one day of the conference, say between Tuesday and Friday next week. I have been working at the Jagiellonian Library today and was issued a library card with its own internet access, and I have already set up edu-roam which is working well for me here. I inquired of the library staff if we might be able to book a small meeting space in the late afternoon/evening sometime next week, and they said they would look but were not optimistic because of the late notice. I thought I would write to you to see if you could recommend any good campus locations for this (or at least some place with stronger connectivity than a cafe in town). >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks! I realize this is a challenging question on such short notice! >>>>> Elisa >>>>> -- >>>>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>>>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>>>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>>>> 150 Finoli Drive >>>>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>>>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>>>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:16 AM, <mailto:info@dh2016.org>info(a)dh2016.org <mailto:info@dh2016.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Participants of DH2016, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is some last-minute housekeeping before we kick off. >>>>>> >>>>>> Numbers >>>>>> We are now, apparently, 870 strong. No comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> Directions >>>>>> Thanks to suggestions from many sides, we’ve updated, again, the conference map at http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdh2016.adho…>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fun Run >>>>>> A running tour to the Kościuszko Mound. Distance: 8 km (ca. 55 min). Meeting point: Auditorium Maximum. It’s offered twice. Time: Tuesday (12 July), 7 a.m. and Friday (15 July), 7 a.m. Please sign up at this Doodle, http://doodle.com/poll/wfkvdgtfvp69m2pk <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdoodle.com%…>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Weather >>>>>> The current weather forecast (http://dh2016.adho.org/weather/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdh2016.adho…>) promises (?) a pleasant and sunny Sunday, a very hot Monday and Tuesday, the latter ending with a thunderstorm; then Wednesday and Thursday might be warm and offer some rain (hence the last-minute addition of raincoats into your conference packs) and a sunny but not hot Friday. Right now, the outlook for Saturday is cloudy, but we’re speaking to various authorities to make it better for the Excursion Day. Speaking of which… >>>>>> >>>>>> Excursions >>>>>> Our tour operator will maintain a presence at the main conference building, so if you decide to go on a trip only now, not all is lost. >>>>>> >>>>>> See you very, very soon, >>>>>> >>>>>> Maciej Eder & Jan Rybicki >>>>>> For the whole DH2016 organizing team >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Prof. em. Dr. Manfred Thaller >>>> Zuletzt Universität zu Köln / >>>> Formerly University at Cologne >>> >>

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Simple problems (2)
by Lou Burnard 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

This is a tricky one, so please bear with me and read to the end before rolling eyes. In Simple, the only available global attribute for recording rendition is @rendition, which (you will recall) is intended to provide a pointer to a <rendition> element, either in the header or elsewhere. So (simplifying somewhat) you might do and somewhere in the header have <rendition xml:id="foo"></rendition> and expect "some CSS styling here" to be applied to your Since life is short and we don't really want to have to say that "foo" means "font-style:italic" in every single document we produce, (thus making it impossible to combine documents, because you will have multiple definitions for "foo" ) you can also use a private URI, like this and then in your header map the prefix "my" to some URL where the <rendition> element concerned is to be found inside a <listPrefixDef> containing something like: <prefixDef ident="my" matchPattern="([A-Z]+)" replacementPattern="http://www.example.com/myListOfStyles.xml#$1"/> So far so good, and that mechanism (which is also very useful eg to link from a <name> to a <person> in a personography) is well attested, reasonably well understood, kosher TEI. Unfortunately, Simple doesn't use it, despite appearances. What Simple does is to define a whole shed load of "suggested values" for @rendition using a valList in the ODD, which begins like this: <valList mode="add" type="semi"> <valItem ident="simple:allcaps"> <desc>all capitals</desc> </valItem> <valItem ident="simple:blackletter"> <desc>black letter or gothic typeface</desc> </valItem> <valItem ident="simple:bold"> <desc>bold typeface</desc> </valItem> <valItem ident="simple:bottombraced"> <desc>marked with a brace under the bottom of the text</desc> </valItem> <valItem ident="simple:boxed"> <desc>border around the text</desc> </valItem> So it *looks* like we are defining a whole shed load of private URIs, hoorah. But nowhere is there a <prefixDef> that tells me what the "simple" prefix means i.e. how to map eg "simple:blackletter" to the appropriate CSS! Nor indeed is it clear where such a beast would reside. Maybe one day the TEI will provide a server from which recognised CSS mappings for these private URIs could be recovered, but I am not holding my breath. So, despite appearances, we have to conclude that these things are not really private URIs at all, but rather MAGIC CODES. In which case, really they ought to be being supplied on a @rend attribute... It gets worse. The current schema includes a schematron constraint which says that the value of @rendition MUST be either a local pointer starting with '#' or a magic code starting "simple:". So I cannot define my own prefixes either. All I can do is provide the missing <prefixDef>s myself, which seems a bit hard on the Simple user. At the moment the documentation is tactfully silent around this issue, or was until I introduced a brief explanation of how prefixDef works. Should I now expand this to spell out that users of Simple are expected to provide their own mappings for such of the proposed @rendition values as they choose to use? Or that Simple just provides these things like that, go figure ? And where should they put their mappings? In the header of the document? But then they might as well be defined locally using xml:id and a regular # pointer (especially since you can't put a colon inside an xml:id value). In some other document we're not going to talk about? (My eyeballs, at least, are now rolling)

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Simple problems (3)
by Lou Burnard 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

I see that there is a schematron rule to ensure that anything pointed to by means of a @corresp attribute is actually there, i.e. a test that for each @corresp="#foo" there is somewhere an @xml:id="foo" This seems admirable, but why is it only applicable to @corresp? Surely it is equally important for (at least) the other members of att.pointing.global which Simple includes, i.e. @next, @prev, and @ana ? Sauce goose gander, shirley?

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Simple problems (1)
by Lou Burnard 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

I ran a check to see which elements in my revised Simple schema had defined processing models. The schema now has a total of 166 elements, of which 56 appear only in the header. 103 in all have a processing model, 98 in the text, 5 in the header. That leaves 11 textual elements with no procmod (and 51 in the header). I'm more worried by the textual ones. They are biblScope, body, code, editor, email, facsimile, relatedItem, surface, surfaceGrp, teiCorpus, zone Leaving aside the facsimile-related ones, I think I can probably make up models for the others. Shall I do so? Would anyone like to propose a suitable proc mod for facsimile and its children?

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time to talk deprecation time
by Syd Bauman 08 Jul '16

08 Jul '16

On our June telecon we committed to discussing the length of the deprecation of a few silly default attributes on this list. So I'm kicking off the conversation. 1) There are a bunch of attributes which have "unknown" as a default value, which we now plan on deprecating. (See ticket 1456 for a list of them.) Does this need a full 2 year deprecation, or is a shorter term more appropriate given how uncontroversial this is? 2) The class att.msExcerpt provides the @defective attribute, which has a default value of "false", which we'd also like to deprecate, but we're waiting for feedback from the TEI-L and MS-SIG before we do so. If the answer from those venues is "nope, nobody cares", do we do a full 2 year deprecation or not? My personal opinion is that (presuming we get the stylesheets to do the right thing, and presuming the prose, if any, is fixed up to match at the same time) 1 year is *plenty* for (1). (I might even be talked into 6 months.) I don't have a strong opinion on (2).

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data.certainty and PureODD
by Raffaele Viglianti 01 Jul '16

01 Jul '16

Hello, Any reason why the content of data.certainty is expressed using rng:choice and not tei:valList? I tried using content/valList in a dataSpec and the XSLTs seem to zap it... Raff

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Fwd: Re: evilinhd
by James Cummings 01 Jul '16

01 Jul '16

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: evilinhd Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 13:44:46 +0200 From: Elena Gonzalez-Blanco <egonzalezblanco(a)flog.uned.es> To: James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk <James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk> CC: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Thanks James! it is a pleasure to share our new "baby TEI" with the Council. As I said to James, it was launched on Monday and it is a very beta version, but we'll be happy to receive your feedback and improvement suggestions before opening it to the community. And yes, the name is not by chance: EVI (Entorno Virtual de Investigación = VRE Virtual Research Environment) + LINHD (Laboratorio de Innovación en Humanidades Digitales / Digital Humanities Innovation Lab) is the result... and nobody will forget easily :) Best Elena Elena González-Blanco García Dpto. de Literatura Española y Teoría de la Literatura, Despacho 722 Facultad de Filología, UNED Paseo Senda del Rey 7 28040 MADRID tel. 91 3986873 http://linhd.uned.es <http://linhd.uned.es/> http://filindig.hypotheses.org/ www.uned.es/personal/elenagonzalezblanco <http://www.uned.es/personal/elenagonzalezblanco> @elenagbg 2016-07-01 13:39 GMT+02:00 James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>>: Hi TEI Council, Elena González-Blanco García (CC'd) drew to my attention a beta release of a system they have built at UNED for the creation and publication of TEI documents. It uses a web-based visual editor they've created TEI Scribe (think lots of nested boxes rather than WYSIWYG) allows you to upload documents and DTDs (ick) to validate them against, and then seamlessly uses the eXist-db Instant Publishing Toolbox (that Wolfgang and Magdalena have worked on) as its publication system. I'm sure this will build more on the processing model aspects eventually. I thought some of you might be interested in having a look. http://www.evilinhd.com/ (And yes, my brain parses that as Evil In HD... ;-) ) -James -- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford, TEI Consultations: tei(a)it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:tei@it.ox.ac.uk> -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk Academic IT Services, University of Oxford

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evilinhd
by James Cummings 01 Jul '16

01 Jul '16

Hi TEI Council, Elena González-Blanco García (CC'd) drew to my attention a beta release of a system they have built at UNED for the creation and publication of TEI documents. It uses a web-based visual editor they've created TEI Scribe (think lots of nested boxes rather than WYSIWYG) allows you to upload documents and DTDs (ick) to validate them against, and then seamlessly uses the eXist-db Instant Publishing Toolbox (that Wolfgang and Magdalena have worked on) as its publication system. I'm sure this will build more on the processing model aspects eventually. I thought some of you might be interested in having a look. http://www.evilinhd.com/ (And yes, my brain parses that as Evil In HD... ;-) ) -James -- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford, TEI Consultations: tei(a)it.ox.ac.uk

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some progress on fx build
by Syd Bauman 01 Jul '16

01 Jul '16

As y'all know the TEIP5-Test-dev project on Jenkins is broken. I just spent some time looking into this, and have some information, but no answers yet. * The problem is in the "detest" target of P5/Test/Makefile. * The problem seems to be from `$(ANT) -f antruntest.xml -Doutputname=detest -DoddFile=detest.odd validateodd`, which is generating unexpected output. * I added a -d switch to the ANT calls, and deleted the `rm` commands from the detest and clean targets in Test/Makefile and ran the build locally. The output put into detest1.log (which is both STDOUT and STDERR from the above ANT command, and which, after filtering with `grep` and `sed`, is expected to be a bunch of Schematron error messages like 'Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "gloss" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec".') is: | [xslt] Using class org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.TraXLiaison | [xslt] In file /home/syd/Documents/TEI-dev/P5/Test/detest.odd time: 1457836257000 | [xslt] Out file /dev/null time: 1467305096000 | [xslt] Style file ../p5odds.message.isosch.xsl time: 1467333273000 | [xslt] to /dev/null | [xslt] And there is one very interesting line that gets filtered out: | java.lang.NoSuchFieldException: _isNotSecureProcessing This output is from the validateodd ANT target. Anyone have any useful insight?

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Re: [tei-council] TEI Simple ODD update
by Lou Burnard 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

On 29/06/16 17:26, Martin Mueller wrote: > > <desc> shows up in Sebastian’s EEBO texts as a child of <gap> , but nowhere else. There are ways of doing without it. > Ah! OK, tx. This is presumably because EEBO texts can contain relatively extensive descriptions of why something has not been transcribed. I will add it accordingly.

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Re: [tei-council] TEI Simple ODD update
by Lou Burnard 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Hi Martin, and thanks for quick reply. On 29/06/16 14:56, Martin Mueller wrote: > Lou, > > > I cc Hugh Cayless, because I’m not sure that I can write to the Council list > > > The only use case envisaged in Simple for facsimile was a basic “digital combo” that lets you go from text to image. Do we need more than ‘facsimile’ for that? It seems to me that ‘surface’, ‘surfaceGrp’ and ‘zone’ take us into concerns with the “materiality” of the text that I explicitly marked as out of scope for the Simple project. You need surface and surfaceGrp to cope with the not uncommon situation where your page images don't correspond tidily with the structure of your text e.g. you have images of a double page spread. Adding zone is very little extra overhead for quite a lot of benefit (e.g. aligning image and transcription) > > We purposely included “rhyme” the schema in September 2014, and I remember Martin Holmes writing at the time that this was a useful element for tagging a very primitive but important component of poetry. OK, no problem to put it back, though I cannot say that I agree with Martin H. on this one. > > “desc” is used all the time in Sebastian’s P5 version of the EEBO texts, and it was a basic design decision that Simple needed to do EEBO, whatever else it did. Agreed, but where is <desc> used in the EEBO texts? (as opposed to EEBO headers)? > > Is ‘c’ in the element list? It seems to be commented out, but it should be in. I have put it back now. > What are the current header elements that you’d like to throw out rather than restrict just to the header? Is particDesc one of them? The list of elements rejected from the header module is in my mail below. particDesc is not included partly because its provided by the corpus module, but mainly because it is pointless having it unless you also provide <listPerson>, and <person>, and all (or at least some of) the many many possible children of <person> . Which I think is overkill for a simple schema. > There is a larger issue here about the place of TEI Simple in the TEI ecosystem. To my mind, the larger issue is the lack of clarity as to what the design goals of Simple actually are. > I recently went through the Council minutes and came across the first discussion of TEI Simple. Sebastian at the time said “If all this goes forward, we would eventually end up with something like TEI Tite or Lite, and Council would inherit it; we might then decide to retire Lite and use this instead. One of the work packages is to extend ODD anyway, so there would be a lot of input by Council.” As indeed there was. And that is why the Procmod is now in the TEI. > The main point of that project was always the Processing Model. If we now end up with something called ‘Simple’ and something called ‘Lite’ we just add confusion and force newbies to ponder when they should use Lite and when Simple. Ditto for Best Practices in Libraries Level 4. I disagree. The whole point of the TEI is that it offers multiple entry points. And long may it continue to do so. > What we need is a single point of entry into the TEI ecosystem. It is in many ways misleading to call it either ‘lite’ or ‘simple’. It would be better to choose a name that articulates the goal admirably stated in the introduction to Lite: “meet 90 percent of the needs of 90 percent of the users.” And that single point of entry should be readily accessible to a person who knows next to nothing about XML. > You cannot use Simple or any other TEI schema without some knowledge of XML. Sorry, but that's life. You need to know how to operate a keyboard too. > MM > > > > > > > On 6/29/16, 5:25 AM, "Lou Burnard" <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > > Here's what I have so far done to the tei_simple.odd document so far, and > why. Sadly this is not the end of the story, but I will send another > message about that anon. > > 1. The original draft contained large amounts of promotional material > about the Simple project, and some tutorial material about XML and > about the processing model. I removed all of it, on the grounds that > it was either inappropriate or unnecessary in a tutorial introduction > to the Simple schema. > > > 2. The schema included a large number of elements which seemed quite > inappropriate for something called "simple" -- notably elements > relating to detailed genetic transcription, or manuscript > description. I removed these: if you want to make a detailed > transcript of a manuscript, you need more than TEI Simple, but your > task isn't simple either. > > 3. The schema originally included "all" of the TEI Header (in practice > this seems to have meant "all of the TEI Header when only some modules > are included", as opposed to "the TEI Header as defined by TEI > All"). I can see no good reason for this, so I have defined a subset > of the Header, excluding some dozen or so highly specialised elements > (specifically: appInfo application cRefPattern calendar calendarDesc > correction correspAction correspContext correspDesc geoDecl > hyphenation interpretation normalization punctuation quotation > refState refsDecl samplingDecl scriptNote segmentation styleDefDecl > stdVals typeNote). Simple should make it easier to create a new > header; if you want to import an arbitrary header created by someone > else, use TEI All. > > 4. As a consequence of (3) above, the schema originally specified by > schematron rule that several elements were permitted only in the > header and not in the text. I have simplified these rules > considerably; what would be more useful in my view would be to add > rules reducing the number of elements permitted in the Header. > > 6. I removed a few elements which did not seem to me to be either > necessary or simple (addSpan, desc, handShift, rhyme, spGrp); I added > a few elements which were needed to cope with the presence of bibl in > the body of a document (biblScope, editor, email, relatedItem); I > added facsimile, surface, surfaceGrp, and zone since the text seemed > to imply that there was a Simple use case for digital facsimiles. > > 5. I systematically checked that every element defined by the schema > was at least referenced by a specDesc in the body of the doc, and > where possible accompanied by some minimal explanation or > exemplification. This turned out to be a lot of work, since the > original document was extremely detailed in some cases and entirely > silent in others. I also took the opportunity to bring some of the > prose up to date and to simplify some of its language, though > undoubtedly there is more to be done there. > > You can see the current state of the draft in the dev repo, at > P5/Exemplars/tei_simple.odd > > >

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TEI Simple ODD update
by Lou Burnard 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Here's what I have so far done to the tei_simple.odd document so far, and why. Sadly this is not the end of the story, but I will send another message about that anon. 1. The original draft contained large amounts of promotional material about the Simple project, and some tutorial material about XML and about the processing model. I removed all of it, on the grounds that it was either inappropriate or unnecessary in a tutorial introduction to the Simple schema. 2. The schema included a large number of elements which seemed quite inappropriate for something called "simple" -- notably elements relating to detailed genetic transcription, or manuscript description. I removed these: if you want to make a detailed transcript of a manuscript, you need more than TEI Simple, but your task isn't simple either. 3. The schema originally included "all" of the TEI Header (in practice this seems to have meant "all of the TEI Header when only some modules are included", as opposed to "the TEI Header as defined by TEI All"). I can see no good reason for this, so I have defined a subset of the Header, excluding some dozen or so highly specialised elements (specifically: appInfo application cRefPattern calendar calendarDesc correction correspAction correspContext correspDesc geoDecl hyphenation interpretation normalization punctuation quotation refState refsDecl samplingDecl scriptNote segmentation styleDefDecl stdVals typeNote). Simple should make it easier to create a new header; if you want to import an arbitrary header created by someone else, use TEI All. 4. As a consequence of (3) above, the schema originally specified by schematron rule that several elements were permitted only in the header and not in the text. I have simplified these rules considerably; what would be more useful in my view would be to add rules reducing the number of elements permitted in the Header. 6. I removed a few elements which did not seem to me to be either necessary or simple (addSpan, desc, handShift, rhyme, spGrp); I added a few elements which were needed to cope with the presence of bibl in the body of a document (biblScope, editor, email, relatedItem); I added facsimile, surface, surfaceGrp, and zone since the text seemed to imply that there was a Simple use case for digital facsimiles. 5. I systematically checked that every element defined by the schema was at least referenced by a specDesc in the body of the doc, and where possible accompanied by some minimal explanation or exemplification. This turned out to be a lot of work, since the original document was extremely detailed in some cases and entirely silent in others. I also took the opportunity to bring some of the prose up to date and to simplify some of its language, though undoubtedly there is more to be done there. You can see the current state of the draft in the dev repo, at P5/Exemplars/tei_simple.odd

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Build failed in Jenkins: Stylesheets-dev #2017
by Victoria TEI Jenkins 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

See <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/2017/changes> Changes: [s.bauman] Fix problem I described in mail I did *not* send to Council on [s.bauman] Addresing (new) ticket #159, this change is an attempt to fix extraction ------------------------------------------ Started by an SCM change Building in workspace <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/> > git rev-parse --is-inside-work-tree # timeout=10 Fetching changes from the remote Git repository > git config remote.origin.url https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets.git # timeout=10 Fetching upstream changes from https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets.git > git --version # timeout=10 > git -c core.askpass=true fetch --tags --progress https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets.git +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* > git rev-parse refs/remotes/origin/dev^{commit} # timeout=10 > git rev-parse refs/remotes/origin/origin/dev^{commit} # timeout=10 Checking out Revision 16b9414294230518abec6255a751d1105b56337d (refs/remotes/origin/dev) > git config core.sparsecheckout # timeout=10 > git checkout -f 16b9414294230518abec6255a751d1105b56337d > git rev-list 0d226da4e850bb84120856b73cebb1fe11a31bec # timeout=10 > git tag -a -f -m Jenkins Build #2017 jenkins-Stylesheets-dev-2017 # timeout=10 [workspace] $ /bin/bash -xe /tmp/hudson7149243504749472648.sh + make clean test deb dist (for i in css/*; do rm -f `basename $i`;done) echo "" > test~ rm -f profile1.html profile2.html profile.xml find . -name "*~" | xargs rm rm -f tei-xsl-*.zip rm -rf tei-xsl_* rm -f Documentation/stylebear Documentation/style.xml Documentation/customize.xml Documentation/teixsl.html Documentation/index.xml rm -rf release dist (cd Test; make clean) make[1]: Entering directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/Test'> (cd ..; for i in css/*; do rm -f `basename $i`;done) rm -f test*.odd.rnc test*epub test*pdf test*rdf test*text test*.xml.docx test*.xml.odt test*.tex test*.fo *.html *.xhtml *~ dummy* test.html test3.html test4.html *aux *vrb *out *log *nav *ent *snm *toc *.end *.1 *.2 test.xsd test.zip test*.dtd test-indexes.xml test37.xml test38.xml test39.xml test40.xml rm -f test*.rnc test*.json test*.rnc test*.combined.odd test*listing* test*.tei test*.rng test*.html5 test*.processedodd *.isosch rm -f oddbyexample.* index*div*html rm -f testdrama.compiled.xml rm -f test5.odt test7.xml test18.xml test19.xml test-index.xml test7.zip test11.xml test9.docx test9.odt content.xml.odt.listing content.xml.odt test.xml.docx.core test7.docx rm -f A54031.xml dcr.result test-rtf2tei.xml test29.xml rm -f xml.result rm -rf charts/ embeddings/ media/ _rels/ \[Content_Types\].xml rm -rf temp-dir-for-ant Pictures OEBPS META-INF mimetype files rm -f test.xlsx.xml *.result.tex *.result.pdf _slidelogo.png rm -f content.xml rm -f cocoatest*.xml make[1]: Leaving directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/Test'> rm -rf tei-p5-xsl_* rm -rf tei-p5-xsl2_* (cd debian-tei-xsl/debian; rm -rf tei-xsl) rm -f teioo.jar rm -rf docx/ImageInfo/bin rm -f names.xml licensekey.txt runDoc.sh (for i in sciencejournal/*.html; do rm -f sciencejournal/`basename $i`;done) (for i in sciencejournal/*.xml; do rm -f sciencejournal/`basename $i`;done) BUILD Copy main XSL files test -d release/xsl/xml/tei/stylesheet || mkdir -p release/xsl/xml/tei/stylesheet/ for i in bibtex cocoa common csv docx dtd docbook epub epub3 fo html wordpress markdown html5 json latex latex nlm odd odds odt p4 pdf profiles/default rdf relaxng rnc schematron simple slides tbx tcp tite tools txt html xsd xlsx pdf verbatimxml ; do \ tar cf - $i | (cd release/xsl/xml/tei/stylesheet; tar xf - ); \ done java -jar lib/saxon9he.jar -it:main tools/getnames.xsl > names.xml BUILD Copy common files and documentation test -d release/xslcommon/xml/tei/stylesheet || mkdir -p release/xslcommon/xml/tei/stylesheet cp names.xml catalog.xml VERSION css/*.css i18n.xml release/xslcommon/xml/tei/stylesheet sh ./tools/mydch debian-tei-xsl/debian/changelog update debian changelog with 7.42.0 BUILD Run tests (cd Test; make) make[1]: Entering directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/Test'> ../bin/teitorelaxng --odd test.odd test.rng WARNING: No localsource set. Will get a copy from http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/P5/. Convert test.odd to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/Test/test.rng> (tei to relaxng) using profile default [echo] Do ODD expand processing (schema ) Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 16 seconds perl -i -p -e 's/generated from ODD source.*//' test.rng xmllint --format test.rng > temp; mv temp test.rng perl -i -pe 'BEGIN{undef $/;} s/<!--\n ?Schema[^>]+>//smg' test.rng if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test.rng expected-results/test.rng; fi (cd ..; for i in css/*; do test -f `basename $i` || ln -s $i `basename $i`;done) BUILD: testing html java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test.xml ../html/html.xsl cssFile=../tei.css useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test.html expected-results/test.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test.html checklinks.xsl <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test.xml ../html/html.xsl cssFile=../tei.css pageLayout=Complex useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test-complex.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test-complex.html expected-results/test-complex.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test.xml ../profiles/ota/html/to.xsl cssFile=../tei.css useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - | perl cleanup.pl > test-ota.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test-ota.html expected-results/test-ota.html; fi ../bin/teitohtml5 test.xml test.html5 WARNING: No localsource set. Will get a copy from http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/P5/. Convert test.xml to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/Test/test.html5> (tei to html5) using profile default [echo] XSLT generate HTML files (language en) Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 6 seconds xmllint --encode utf-8 --format test.html5 | perl cleanup.pl > test.temp mv test.temp test.html5 if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test.html5 expected-results/test.html5; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test20.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test20.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test20.html expected-results/test20.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar -versionmsg:off test3.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true| xmllint --format - > test3.html java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar -versionmsg:off test4.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true| xmllint --format - > test4.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test4.html test3.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test5.xml ../html/html.xsl autoBlockQuote=true useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test5.xhtml if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test5.xhtml expected-results/test5.xhtml; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar lib/jing-20120724.0.0.jar -c xhtml.rnc test5.xhtml java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test6.xml ../html/html.xsl autoBlockQuote=true useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test6.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test6.html expected-results/test6.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar lib/jing-20120724.0.0.jar -c xhtml.rnc test6.html java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test14.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true| xmllint --format - > test14.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test14.html expected-results/test14.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test22.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true| xmllint --format - > test22.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test22.html expected-results/test22.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test23.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true| xmllint --format - > test23.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test23.html expected-results/test23.html; fi (mkdir files; cd files;java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../../lib/saxon9he.jar ../testnotes1.xml ../../html/html.xsl splitLevel=4 useFixedDate=true STDOUT=false cssFile=../../tei.css) xmllint --format files/index.html > x ; mv x files/index.html xmllint --format files/one.html > x ; mv x files/one.html xmllint --format files/two.html > x ; mv x files/two.html xmllint --format files/three.html > x ; mv x files/three.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff -r files expected-results/testnotes; fi rm -rf files (mkdir files; cd files;java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../../lib/saxon9he.jar ../testnotes2.xml ../../html/html.xsl splitLevel=0 useFixedDate=true STDOUT=false cssFile=../../tei.css) xmllint --format files/index.html > x ; mv x files/index.html xmllint --format files/one.html > x ; mv x files/one.html xmllint --format files/three.html > x ; mv x files/three.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff -r files expected-results/testnotes2; fi rm -rf files (mkdir files; cd files;java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../../lib/saxon9he.jar ../testnotes2.xml ../../html/html.xsl splitLevel=4 useFixedDate=true STDOUT=false cssFile=../../tei.css) xmllint --format files/index.html > x ; mv x files/index.html xmllint --format files/one.html > x ; mv x files/one.html xmllint --format files/two.html > x ; mv x files/two.html xmllint --format files/three.html > x ; mv x files/three.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff -r files expected-results/testnotes3; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test24.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test24.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test24.html expected-results/test24.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test25.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test25.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test25.html expected-results/test25.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test27.xml ../html/html.xsl useFixedDate=true cssFile=../tei.css cssSecondaryFile=../css/msdescription.css | xmllint --format - > test27.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test27.html expected-results/test27.html; fi rm -rf files java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test28.xml ../html/html.xsl splitLevel=0 STDOUT=false useFixedDate=true xmllint --format index.html > x ; mv x index.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff index.html expected-results/test28.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test31.xml ../html/html.xsl cssFile="" cssInlineFiles=../tei.css useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test31.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test31.html expected-results/test31.html; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test32.xml ../html/html.xsl cssFile="" cssInlineFiles=../tei.css useFixedDate=true | xmllint --format - > test32.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test32.html expected-results/test32.html; fi BUILD: testing p4top5 java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar -o:test17.tei test17.xml ../profiles/default/p4/from.xsl if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test17.tei expected-results/test17.tei; fi java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar A54031.tcp ../tcp/tcp2tei.xsl | xmllint --format - > A54031.xml if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff A54031.xml expected-results/A54031.xml; fi BUILD: testing oddity ../bin/teitohtml5 --summaryDoc --odd test.odd test.odd.html WARNING: No localsource set. Will get a copy from http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/P5/. Convert test.odd to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/Test/test.odd.html> (tei to html5) using profile default [echo] Do ODD expand processing and conversion to TEI Lite (schema ) Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored [echo] XSLT generate HTML files (language en) Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 20 seconds xmllint --encode utf-8 --format test.odd.html | perl cleanup.pl> test.temp ; mv test.temp test.odd.html if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test.odd.html expected-results/test.odd.html; fi ../bin/teitoodd test.odd test.processedodd WARNING: No localsource set. Will get a copy from http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/P5/. Convert test.odd to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/Test/test.processedodd> (tei to odd) using profile default [echo] Do ODD expand processing (schema ) BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 10 seconds java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ../lib/saxon9he.jar test.processedodd ../odds/extract-isosch.xsl > test.isosch perl -i -p -e 's/generated .* by /generated by /' test.isosch if [ 0 -ne 1 ]; \ then diff test.isosch expected-results/test.isosch; fi 162,166c162 < < < < < <pattern id="test-div-constraint-abstractModel-structure-l-29"> --- > <pattern id="test-div-constraint-abstractModel-structure-l-29"> make[1]: *** [test-oddity] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/Stylesheets-dev/ws/Test'> make: *** [test] Error 2 Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Archiving artifacts

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