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Next call: October 8
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 03 Oct '19

03 Oct '19

Dear all, our next call is on Tuesday, October 8 (EDT 9:00-10:30, GMT 14:00-15:30, CEST 15:00-16:30) Please add topics to the agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EiOWCeFq52FMU2dfPDsZqCGSxFY6fI2TxleDoRh… In preparation for the meeting, please have a look at the uniHan issue: Original issue (https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1805) Pull request (https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/1901) Elli, could you please start the call? For our new members: we usually use hangouts meet, the link will be sent in time for the meeting. Best, Martina

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welcome to our new members
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 03 Oct '19

03 Oct '19

Dear all, Welcome to our new Council members Jessica, Meaghan and Nicholas! Our webmaster Luis Meneses already added you to the Council's and Board-Council's mailing lists to give you an opportunity to keep up to date with what is going on before your term of office starts officially. You should also have received an invitation for the Google Drive were we collect our meeting minutes, the shared Google calendar and the Slack channel. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Each of the new Council members will be assigned a mentor to help you get started soon. Best, Martina

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Mentoring new Council members
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 01 Oct '19

01 Oct '19

Dear all, I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members. Best, Martina

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Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members
by James Cummings 01 Oct '19

01 Oct '19

I'd be happy to be an informal mentor if any of them wanted to ask questions etc. Happy to continue that after December. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at> Sent: 01 October 2019 13:42 To: Elisa <ebbondar(a)gmail.com>; Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members Good point. And I think we should collect and update our documents on “how to get started” (edit the guidelines, testing, etc.). It’s on the agenda for our next meeting. Best, Martina Von: Elisa <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:16 An: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Cc: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at>; TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members And I am happy to help with mentoring, too. When I spoke of distributing the tasks, I regularly teach students how to get stared with shell commands, git, and GitHub, and I suspect at least a couple of our new people may want an orientation in that. I wonder if it makes sense to divide up some of the orientation tasks among a group of mentors...just thinking out loud. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> | Development site: http://newtfire.org<http://newtfire.org/> Typeset by hand on my iPad On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm happy to help with mentoring On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 8:11 AM Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>> wrote: Hi Elisa, Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors. Best, Martina Von: Elisa <ebbondar(a)gmail.com<mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 An: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org>> Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> | Development site: http://newtfire.org<http://newtfire.org/> Typeset by hand on my iPad On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>> wrote: Dear all, I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members. Best, Martina _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Stylesheets apologies
by Raffaele Viglianti 01 Oct '19

01 Oct '19

Hello, I see on the calendar that there's a stylesheets meeting in one hour. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it as I got delayed this morning. Raff

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Zenodo
by Peter Stadler 25 Sep '19

25 Sep '19

Hi all, having a long train ride home from Graz I was looking into our TEI Zenodo publications of the Guidelines. Since we decided that we wanted all our published releases to show up at Zenodo and because these are quite a few I decided to write a little script rather than doing those uploads manually. I want to document here what I tested and what I’m about to do so you can stop me if it’s mad or something is missing. (BTW, Zenodo has a sandbox where I was testing my scripts) #1 I have not found a way to directly upload to Zenodo from an URL so first I needed to download all the zip archives from Sourceforge (GitHub only has releases from 2.9.0 onwards) to my local machine #2 I wanted to use the HTML readme files we already have to use them as zenodo description (find them at https://www.tei-c.org/Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc/ <https://www.tei-c.org/Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc/>) but needed to get rid of the HTML header etc. I was doing this with XSLT, see https://gist.github.com/peterstadler/a33df4f7cb3f1234c8f15d73a080a192 <https://gist.github.com/peterstadler/a33df4f7cb3f1234c8f15d73a080a192> #3 needed to rename some of the readme files to get proper three digit version numbers #4 create a python script for adding our releases to zenodo, see https://gist.github.com/peterstadler/79d402bb989c8a066b482381979557a3 <https://gist.github.com/peterstadler/79d402bb989c8a066b482381979557a3> The whole process works quite nicely but will need some manual tweaking (of e.g. dates) afterwards (once I move from the sandbox to the real system). Because I will need to call the zenodo support after the ingestion to fix the sort order, I want to be sure that I have everything. NB: all the metadata can be changed afterwards but the files may not be touched anymore. Every new upload than creates a new version which will show up as the latest(!) So here are some questions: a) At Sourceforge there is a release 0.9 while in the readme there is a 0.6 (but not vice versa). Is this just a typo somewhere and do these releases belong together?! b) There is some gap between 0.6 and 0.9 (or 1.0) and before 0.2.1. Does anyone have more releases anywhere? c) release notes are missing for 0.2.1 and 1.4.1 Many thanks for reading until the end Best Peter

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Per diem Graz
by Raffaele Viglianti 24 Sep '19

24 Sep '19

Dear all, Since it's always a bit complicated to figure out the per diem from the state department website, here is the breakdown: Meals and Incidentals rate for Graz, Austria is $143 ( https://aoprals.state.gov/web920/per_diem_action.asp?MenuHide=1&CountryCode… ) The breakdown is as follows. Breakfast: 21 Lunch: 36 Dinner: 57 Incidentals: 29 (https://aoprals.state.gov/content.asp?content_id=114&menu_id=75) While I'm at it, here's the link to the reimbursement policies: https://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Travel_Reimbursement_Procedures_for_Counci… . Hope you all had an enjoyable trip back! Thanks Martina for being such a wonderful host and thanks to both you and Walter for a top notch conference! All best, Raff

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Agenda for IG meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 19 Sep '19

19 Sep '19

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WUV_rSQc2E6erCrKDWR6smbr5TAkw08tBiKw5B6… Mag. Dr.phil. Martina Scholger Zentrum für Informationsmodellierung - Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities Elisabethstraße 59/III 8010 Graz Austria martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at<mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> https://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at<https://informationsmodellierung.uni-graz.at/> | https://gams.uni.graz.at<https://gams.uni.graz.at/> Institut für Dokumentologie und Editorik e.V. | https://i-d-e.de<https://i-d-e.de/> Chair of the TEI Technical Council | http://tei-c.org

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Re: [Tei-council] Stylesheets now on the website
by James Cummings 19 Sep '19

19 Sep '19

That documentation at the main URL is quite out of date (Still lists oxford's OxGarage for example). We should update it at some point to mention the more distributed infrastructure, docker containers, etc. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Martin Holmes <mholmes(a)uvic.ca> Sent: 18 September 2019 22:01 To: Peter Stadler <pstadler(a)mail.uni-paderborn.de> Cc: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Stylesheets now on the website I think someone probably just went and did it manually. I bet Hugh's done it the last few times. Cheers, Martin On 2019-09-18 3:08 p.m., Peter Stadler wrote: > Hi Martin, > > I really believed that releasing the Stylesheets along with the > documentation was part of our standard release procedure. Yet, looking > at http://teic.github.io/TCW/tcw22.html and > https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/blob/dev/P5/Utilities/tei-install.sh I can > not find any evidence. I thought it would be handled by running > `tei-install.sh --package=Stylesheets …` but there is no case for the > Stylesheets in the `case` statement (see > https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/blob/95570777499be3438a12f47739099b70e2607d84/P…) > > We should probably add it there but I wonder how the Stylesheets were > released on our server before? > > Best > Peter > > >> Am 18.09.2019 um 08:06 schrieb Martin Holmes <mholmes(a)uvic.ca >> <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>>: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Luis has put the latest Stylesheets release on the site: >> >> <https://tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-xsl/> >> >> Please take a look and make sure it's all where it's supposed to be. >> We need to have a process in place for making that happen every >> release day, though, preferably without bothering Luis. >> >> Cheers, >> Martin >> _______________________________________________ >> Tei-council mailing list >> Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org <mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Stylesheets now on the website
by Martin Holmes 18 Sep '19

18 Sep '19

Hi all, Luis has put the latest Stylesheets release on the site: <https://tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-xsl/> Please take a look and make sure it's all where it's supposed to be. We need to have a process in place for making that happen every release day, though, preferably without bothering Luis. Cheers, Martin

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Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement
by James Cummings 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Raff, It was the word 'currently' which for some reason made me think it was on a road map or something. ;-) Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07:33 PM To: James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement James, I would like to support RelaxNG, mostly because MEI can't shake it off yet and I'd like this to work for MEI customizations too. BUT I also don't want to make promises one way or another, so I'll adjust that part. Raff On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:16 PM James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk<mailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk>> wrote: Do we have plans for it to support RelaxNG? Or are we using it as a way to help people decide to move to Pure ODD. The latter seems a defensible reason to me and means Raff doesn't need to write ability to cope with Relax NG. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk<mailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk> Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org>> on behalf of Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>> Sent: 16 September 2019 13:02 To: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com>> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org>> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement Hi Raff, My suggestion is just to reverse the order of the 2nd and 3rd sentences like this: The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Cheers, Elisa On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 12:28 PM Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com>> wrote: Wordsmithing much appreciated! I figure Martina would send this. Dear TEI-L The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ The software is currently in beta and we invite the TEI community to try it out and report issues on the GitHub repository https://github.com/teic/romajs Please note that Roma beta currently only supports pure ODD and uploading customizations with RelaxNG content models will fail. There is also no support yet for @source attributes so all customizations will start from the latest stable version of the TEI. This will be addressed in the future. Roma "classic" will remain available at https://roma.tei-c.org/ until the new version reaches a more stable and complete status, at which point it will be replaced. After that, we plan to keep it available at a different address but it will not get further updated. If you are at the TEI Conference and Members Meeting in Graz, please come visit Raff's poster about Roma this Thursday Sept 19 to learn more and leave suggestions! _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org<http://newtfire.org/>

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Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement
by James Cummings 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Do we have plans for it to support RelaxNG? Or are we using it as a way to help people decide to move to Pure ODD. The latter seems a defensible reason to me and means Raff doesn't need to write ability to cope with Relax NG. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebb8(a)pitt.edu> Sent: 16 September 2019 13:02 To: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Cc: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Draft Roma beta announcement Hi Raff, My suggestion is just to reverse the order of the 2nd and 3rd sentences like this: The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Cheers, Elisa On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 12:28 PM Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com>> wrote: Wordsmithing much appreciated! I figure Martina would send this. Dear TEI-L The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ The software is currently in beta and we invite the TEI community to try it out and report issues on the GitHub repository https://github.com/teic/romajs Please note that Roma beta currently only supports pure ODD and uploading customizations with RelaxNG content models will fail. There is also no support yet for @source attributes so all customizations will start from the latest stable version of the TEI. This will be addressed in the future. Roma "classic" will remain available at https://roma.tei-c.org/ until the new version reaches a more stable and complete status, at which point it will be replaced. After that, we plan to keep it available at a different address but it will not get further updated. If you are at the TEI Conference and Members Meeting in Graz, please come visit Raff's poster about Roma this Thursday Sept 19 to learn more and leave suggestions! _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu<mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org<http://newtfire.org/>

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attending SIGs
by Mylonas, Elli 17 Sep '19

17 Sep '19

Hi all, I asked our fearless leader last night what she would like us to do about SIGs and she suggested that i ask the rest of council. I was wondering who is thinking of going to which SIG if any? Shouldn't we have some Council presence in order to know what is they are thinking about generally? I am thinking about periodicals and if necessary, but could just as well use the time otherwise. many thanks, --elli

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Draft Roma beta announcement
by Raffaele Viglianti 16 Sep '19

16 Sep '19

Wordsmithing much appreciated! I figure Martina would send this. Dear TEI-L The TEI Council has released a new version of Roma, the web interface for creating TEI customizations. Council member Raff Viglianti is the lead developer. Find it at https://romabeta.tei-c.org/ The software is currently in beta and we invite the TEI community to try it out and report issues on the GitHub repository https://github.com/teic/romajs Please note that Roma beta currently only supports pure ODD and uploading customizations with RelaxNG content models will fail. There is also no support yet for @source attributes so all customizations will start from the latest stable version of the TEI. This will be addressed in the future. Roma "classic" will remain available at https://roma.tei-c.org/ until the new version reaches a more stable and complete status, at which point it will be replaced. After that, we plan to keep it available at a different address but it will not get further updated. If you are at the TEI Conference and Members Meeting in Graz, please come visit Raff's poster about Roma this Thursday Sept 19 to learn more and leave suggestions!

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Broken links on the TEI site
by Martin Holmes 16 Sep '19

16 Sep '19

Hi Luis, At the TEI Council meeting, we noticed that if you go here: <https://tei-c.org/tools/stylesheets/> there are two broken links. The first goes to the XSLT documentation, which is missing from the server for some reason. The second is a link into the wiki, which goes to http rather than https. If you click on that link with Chrome, it'll work because Chrome pre-emptively tries https, but other browsers try plain http and get a 404. So: how do we get the Stylesheets and their documentation onto the server; and can you set up the explicit redirects for all http URLs to https? Also, can we have directory browsing turned on for the whole server? We want people to be able to browse around through various versions of the Guidelines etc. Thanks, Martin

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Trial builds to address the circularity issue
by Martin Holmes 15 Sep '19

15 Sep '19

Hi all, Ahead of our discussion of the build circularity today, I've set up a couple of extra builds on my Jenkins server to try out one of the ideas we've been kicking around. I now have these build jobs: Stylesheets-dev-with-P5-release: this builds the dev branch of the Stylesheets, but using the p5subset.xml from the current P5 release. Stylesheets-dev-with-P5-release: this does a comprehensive build of the P5-dev branch (tests followed by a full build of the output), but using the latest release version of the TEI stylesheets. The stylesheets used to be available on the TEI website, but that's no longer the case, so I've ended up installing the deb packages on my Jenkins instead. They're still building, so I don't know whether they'll be successful or not, but if either or both of them fail, at least we'll have some idea of the kind of issues we might face if we do take this approach to avoiding the circularity problem. Cheers, Martin

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Agenda F2F
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 14 Sep '19

14 Sep '19

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3OpQ8N-r1nJq0T0kUreUReCCG5FJ6P3HfHIEQ-…

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Re: [Tei-council] F2F meeting in Graz
by James Cummings 11 Sep '19

11 Sep '19

Martina, Sounds great! And yes, quite a coincidence. Where I grew up weirdos would wear dirndl and lederhosen but only at Octoberfest. Looking forward to some good Styrian cooking and replenishing my supply of kürbiskernöl. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University From: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) Sent: Tuesday, 10 September, 22:32 Subject: [Tei-council] F2F meeting in Graz To: TEI Council Dear all, Here is some final information for the F2F meeting in Graz before you start your trip. The draft agenda can be found here, I will prepare the agenda in time. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3OpQ8N-r1nJq0T0kUreUReCCG5FJ6P3HfHIEQ-… Please add your travel information if you haven’t so far: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Igi0Op1XVBNhv91tkcTpd_i6-fFIj1h1JPw5L8N… Our meeting starts on Saturday at Elisabethstraße 59 at 9 am – on the weekend there is swipe access only, so I will wait for you at the front door. See map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1krAUIXid_1xRPu_yh-ESCDB2-S77ficR We have a room with a projector and also additional rooms for breakout sessions. There is also coffee 😊 Don’t forget your power plugs and adaptors. Evening plans: Friday: As you might know, we are currently running a pre-conference summer school. On Friday evening the workshop instructors will have dinner together at Herzl Weinstube at 6:30 pm. You are welcome to join us. Please let me know if you plan to come, so that we can make reservations accordingly (Syd, Anne, Raff, and James are already accounted for). Herzl Weinstube: https://www.dieherzl.at/speisen/ Prokopigasse 12 / Mehlplatz Saturday: The weekend is very busy in Graz, since there is a local festival going on where people are running around in Dirndl and Lederhosen. @James: it is really a coincidence that this festival always takes place when you are in Graz. And no, I don't have a Dirndl. I reserved a table at the "Kunsthaus" (artmuseum) to make sure that we will get some food, but we can decide on Saturday if we really want to go there or prefer something else: Kunsthauscafe: http://kunsthauscafe.co.at/download/KHC-Karte-19.pdf?cache=no Südtirolerplatz 2 Sunday: Dinner at my place, of course spouses and partners are welcome too. Monday: The joint Board/Council-dinner will be at Landhauskeller, which is in the city center. Landhauskeller: http://www.landhaus-keller.at/ Schmiedgasse 9 For lunch we can decide individually. We can either order from different restaurants and have it delivered by a bycicle service or we can have lunch somewhere close to the university. Have a save trip and see you soon in Graz! Best, Martina

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F2F meeting in Graz
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 10 Sep '19

10 Sep '19

Dear all, Here is some final information for the F2F meeting in Graz before you start your trip. The draft agenda can be found here, I will prepare the agenda in time. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3OpQ8N-r1nJq0T0kUreUReCCG5FJ6P3HfHIEQ-… Please add your travel information if you haven’t so far: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Igi0Op1XVBNhv91tkcTpd_i6-fFIj1h1JPw5L8N… Our meeting starts on Saturday at Elisabethstraße 59 at 9 am – on the weekend there is swipe access only, so I will wait for you at the front door. See map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1krAUIXid_1xRPu_yh-ESCDB2-S77ficR We have a room with a projector and also additional rooms for breakout sessions. There is also coffee 😊 Don’t forget your power plugs and adaptors. Evening plans: Friday: As you might know, we are currently running a pre-conference summer school. On Friday evening the workshop instructors will have dinner together at Herzl Weinstube at 6:30 pm. You are welcome to join us. Please let me know if you plan to come, so that we can make reservations accordingly (Syd, Anne, Raff, and James are already accounted for). Herzl Weinstube: https://www.dieherzl.at/speisen/ Prokopigasse 12 / Mehlplatz Saturday: The weekend is very busy in Graz, since there is a local festival going on where people are running around in Dirndl and Lederhosen. @James: it is really a coincidence that this festival always takes place when you are in Graz. And no, I don't have a Dirndl. I reserved a table at the "Kunsthaus" (artmuseum) to make sure that we will get some food, but we can decide on Saturday if we really want to go there or prefer something else: Kunsthauscafe: http://kunsthauscafe.co.at/download/KHC-Karte-19.pdf?cache=no Südtirolerplatz 2 Sunday: Dinner at my place, of course spouses and partners are welcome too. Monday: The joint Board/Council-dinner will be at Landhauskeller, which is in the city center. Landhauskeller: http://www.landhaus-keller.at/ Schmiedgasse 9 For lunch we can decide individually. We can either order from different restaurants and have it delivered by a bycicle service or we can have lunch somewhere close to the university. Have a save trip and see you soon in Graz! Best, Martina

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Next IG meeting
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 03 Sep '19

03 Sep '19

Dear all, Thanks for filling in the doodle! Our next meeting will take place on September 3rd, 11:00-12:00 PST, 14:00-15:00 EST, 20:00-21:00 CEST. I will send a hangouts link half an hour before we start. Best wishes, Martina

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Re: [Tei-council] let's talk about food
by James Cummings 03 Sep '19

03 Sep '19

I believe invited experts are invited and thus earn any meals through their participation. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Martin Holmes <mholmes(a)uvic.ca> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 10:28:08 PM To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] let's talk about food I eat everything (although I'm not sure whether I'm entitled to any food since I'm not elected :-)). Cheers, Martin On 2019-09-02 2:24 p.m., James Cummings wrote: > Hi Martina, > > No pertinent allergies. And I eat most things, those which I don't like > rarely seem to come up in Styrian cuisine. > > Many thanks, > James > > -- > Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk > School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle > University > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of > Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) > <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at> > *Sent:* Monday, September 2, 2019 9:34:06 PM > *To:* TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> > *Subject:* [Tei-council] let's talk about food > > Dear all, > > Planning ahead for our F2F meeting, I wanted to ask about your dietary > requirements. Please let me know if you have any restrictions or allergies. > > Best, > > Martina > > > _______________________________________________ > Tei-council mailing list > Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Re: [Tei-council] let's talk about food
by James Cummings 02 Sep '19

02 Sep '19

Hi Martina, No pertinent allergies. And I eat most things, those which I don't like rarely seem to come up in Styrian cuisine. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:34:06 PM To: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: [Tei-council] let's talk about food Dear all, Planning ahead for our F2F meeting, I wanted to ask about your dietary requirements. Please let me know if you have any restrictions or allergies. Best, Martina

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let's talk about food
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 02 Sep '19

02 Sep '19

Dear all, Planning ahead for our F2F meeting, I wanted to ask about your dietary requirements. Please let me know if you have any restrictions or allergies. Best, Martina

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Re: [Tei-council] Issue 1908
by James Cummings 19 Aug '19

19 Aug '19

Yes, the real difference is that for teidata.enumerated then you should have a valList in your ODD enumerating the specific values for your project. Indeed... if we wanted to add checks into an ODD editor like Roma, one could have it check through all classes and elements included in the ODD and find any attributes with teidata.enumerated and check that they have a valList, and if not prompt a user to enter one. That would, however, be quite strict, so maybe only in a future checker 'strict' mode (otherwise just a warning). ;-) Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Sent: 19 August 2019 19:38 To: James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk> Cc: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Issue 1908 Sounds fine to me. It looks like teidata.enumerated is just a wrapper for teidata.word anyway...? Raff On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 2:20 PM James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk<mailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk>> wrote: https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1908 https://jenkins.tei-c.org/job/TEIP5-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/P5/rel… Although I fixed the corrigible error for this ticket 25 days ago (within minutes of it being submitted ;-)) I noticed that the datatype for the @role attribute on <org> is teidata.word. For another issue I was looking at the @role attribute usage in other places and it is usually teidata.enumerated and that would make sense with this attribute as well. Any objections if I modified tei:org/@role to be teidata.enumerated instead of teidata.word? (This has no backwards compatibility issues as far as I'm aware, but means that a project _should_ document this list of possible values... which is a good thing.) Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk<mailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk> Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org<mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Issue 1908
by James Cummings 19 Aug '19

19 Aug '19

https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1908 https://jenkins.tei-c.org/job/TEIP5-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/P5/rel… Although I fixed the corrigible error for this ticket 25 days ago (within minutes of it being submitted ;-)) I noticed that the datatype for the @role attribute on <org> is teidata.word. For another issue I was looking at the @role attribute usage in other places and it is usually teidata.enumerated and that would make sense with this attribute as well. Any objections if I modified tei:org/@role to be teidata.enumerated instead of teidata.word? (This has no backwards compatibility issues as far as I'm aware, but means that a project _should_ document this list of possible values... which is a good thing.) Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University

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