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Re: [tei-council] Simple : facsimile
by James Cummings 25 Jul '16

25 Jul '16

That is how I would have suggested doing it. So works for me. James -- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford On 23 Jul 2016 09:09, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote: Also, having looked more closely, it seems that if you want to encode page openings, you're probably better off encoding the opening as a single surface and each page as zone within it, since you can't define a coordinate system for a pageGrp. So, pending further clarification of this issue, surfaceGrp is OUT. On 22/07/16 20:48, Lou Burnard wrote: > In general, I am all in favour of reducing complexity in Simple, as I > hope is by now evident. But I seriously do think we should include > surfaceGrp, because the distinction between a single page (a surface) > and a page opening (a surfaceGrp containing two surfaces) is a crucial > one for many people. But I can survive being outvoted! > > > On 22/07/16 20:43, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) > wrote: >> +1 >> >> Best, Martina >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org >> [mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org] Im Auftrag von James >> Cummings >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 19:35 >> An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >> Betreff: Re: [tei-council] Simple : facsimile >> >> >> Sure, I agree. Just suggesting that if you are grouping surfaces and >> such then you are starting to leave the realm of Simple and should >> maybe do your own customisation. ;-) >> >> -James >> >> On 21/07/16 18:34, Lou Burnard wrote: >>> Just to repeat, what I said below, surfaceGrp is nothing to do with >>> sourceDoc. It's for grouping surfaces such as page openings, or faces >>> of a monument. >>> >>> >>> On 21/07/16 19:29, James Cummings wrote: >>>> I'm understanding this discussion correctly (and I've just skimmed it >>>> in a hurry), then I would be saying that we want facsimile, surface, >>>> zone, and graphic, but don't want surfaceGrp, line or sourceDoc. >>>> >>>> i.e. we want to be able to do TEI Simple facsimiles as long as they >>>> are basic, but not sourceDoc non-interpretative transcriptions. If >>>> you need surfaceGrp or sourceDoc, in my mind what you are doing isn't >>>> Simple. ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> -James >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21/07/16 17:42, Lou Burnard wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 21/07/16 15:50, Scholger, Martina >>>>> (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) wrote: >>>>>> I think that <surfaceGrp> goes beyond a Simple document, therefore >>>>>> I would remove it. >>>>> Well, my reasoning is that whether or not you're doing transcription >>>>> you will definitely want some way of distinguishing between single >>>>> page images and images of a page opening, which is precisely ewhat >>>>> surfaceGrp is for, imho. >>>>> >>>>>> Concerning the <line>: If I understand it correctly, <sourceDoc> is >>>>>> not provided within a Simple document? >>>>> Krekt >>>>> >>>>>> Is it meant to have a transcription within <facsimile> instead? >>>>>> I don't think that <facsimile> should contain a transcription (see >>>>>> also line 790-793 in tei_simple.odd: "A more powerful approach, >>>>>> discussed in section <ptr target="#simple-facs"/> below, is to use >>>>>> the <gi>facsimile</gi> element to define the organization of the >>>>>> set of images representing the text, and then use >>>>>> the <att>facs</att> attribute to point to individual components of >>>>>> that representation.") >>>>> Agreed, that putting transcription inside <zone> seems a bit >>>>> (ahem) odd, but you still need to ability to identify zones on an >>>>> image, whether or not you put text inside them, and the content >>>>> model for <zone> allows text. >>>>> Are you are saying that it should actually be forbidden if the >>>>> ancestor of <zone> is a <facsimile> rather than a <sourceDoc>? >>>>>> Therefore I wouldn't restore <line>. >>>>> Understood. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>>>> Von: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org >>>>>> [mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org] Im Auftrag von Lou >>>>>> Burnard >>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 13:42 >>>>>> An: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org; Martin Mueller >>>>>> Betreff: [tei-council] Simple : facsimile >>>>>> >>>>>> The schema currently makes available within <facsimile> : >>>>>> surface, surfaceGrp, and zone, but not line. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that balance about right? Should I restore <line> (which is >>>>>> sugar for <zone type="line">) ? Should I remove <surfaceGrp>? >>>>>> >>>>>> The purpose is to support a Simple document which contains just >>>>>> images and the lightest of transcriptions, such as you might get >>>>>> from a crowd sourcing transcription experiment for example, not to >>>>>> do full blown genetic transcriptions, obvs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> tei-council mailing list >>>>>> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >>>>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>>>>> >>>>>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>>> >> >> -- >> Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk Academic IT Services, >> University of Oxford >> -- >> tei-council mailing list >> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >> >> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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Simple : facsimile
by Lou Burnard 23 Jul '16

23 Jul '16

The schema currently makes available within <facsimile> : surface, surfaceGrp, and zone, but not line. Is that balance about right? Should I restore <line> (which is sugar for <zone type="line">) ? Should I remove <surfaceGrp>? The purpose is to support a Simple document which contains just images and the lightest of transcriptions, such as you might get from a crowd sourcing transcription experiment for example, not to do full blown genetic transcriptions, obvs.

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July meeting poll
by Hugh Cayless 21 Jul '16

21 Jul '16

Please fill in your availability at: https://doodle.com/poll/m79mta983dd32ree Thanks, Hugh Sent from my phone.

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Re: [tei-council] Re : Krakow Council meeting at DH2016
by James Cummings 21 Jul '16

21 Jul '16

Hi Lou, I've started thinking about Simplifying person/place/org. How do you want my proposal? I could just provide an explanation and examples or would you prefer an elementSpec? James -- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford On 15 Jul 2016 11:02 a.m., Lou Burnard <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote: If you do, May i politely request some discussion of tei simple And how to move it on ? Sent from my Honor Mobile -------- Message original -------- Objet : Re: [tei-council] Krakow Council meeting at DH2016 De : Hugh Cayless À : tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Cc : Thanks for trying Elisa! Yeah, let's meet for lunch if we can. Sent from my phone. > On Jul 14, 2016, at 23:22, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Council, > Since many of us on Council are here in Krakow for the ADHO 2016 conference, at the June Council meeting I volunteered to try to organize us on site. The conference organizers were really helpful in promising to provide us a room as soon as we determined a time for tomorrow afternoon, but because we were all (me included) distracted by sessions and likely to be distracted by them again tomorrow, I think it’s surely too late now to try to organize a virtual meeting. I herewith give up on that, with apologies, but I hope that we Council members on site will at least get together during lunch (at 1pm here in Krakow). Elli has a lunch meeting and could only join at 2, and when we realized that, plus the attractiveness of the afternoon session, we felt as if we’d best just take in the conference tomorrow and not try to organize a hangout session. > > Looking forward to Raff’s paper tomorrow! > Elisa > > -- > Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD > Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English > University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division > 150 Finoli Drive > Greensburg, PA 15601 USA > E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> > Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > > > > > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: Friday, I think! Re: Question re Meeting Space Re: DH2016 Last-minute housekeeping >> Date: July 14, 2016 at 6:12:34 PM GMT+2 >> To: Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> >> Cc: Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller(a)uni-koeln.de>, info(a)dh2016.org, michalchoinski(a)gmail.com, Elli Mylonas <elli_mylonas(a)brown.edu>, James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk>, Raffaele Viglianti <rviglian(a)umd.edu>, Magdalena Turska <tuurma(a)gmail.com>, Martina Scholger <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at> >> >> Was there any followup on this? Should we make alternate plans? >> >> Sent from my phone. >> >>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 17:53, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> Our full complement is seven, and I believe I’ve had contact with everyone now: I think Friday afternoon / evening is the preferred moment for our special meeting of the TEI Council during the ADHO conference. Can we arrange something? >>> >>> Many thanks, from the end of the very wonderful eXist workshop! >>> Elisa >>> -- >>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>> 150 Finoli Drive >>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all from the eXist workshop— I meant to copy Magdalena on this, which means i think that we have six of us potentially meeting. How does everyone feel about Friday afternoon or evening? >>>> >>>> Elisa >>>> -- >>>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>>> 150 Finoli Drive >>>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller(a)uni-koeln.de <mailto:manfred.thaller@uni-koeln.de>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Jan, >>>>> MSK seems to be free Tuesday 12th between 1 pm and the opening; also on Wednesday before 11:30 am; also on Thursday after 1 pm; Friday between 1 pm and closing. >>>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> if Jan does not contradict, I'd propose you use that. >>>>> >>>>> "MSK": go to http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/ <http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/> click on blue flag. >>>>> >>>>> (And let info(a)dh2016.org <mailto:info@dh2016.org> come know, when you intend to occupy the room; if possible before you do so.) >>>>> >>>>> Travel safely, >>>>> Manfred >>>>> >>>>>> Am 08.07.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Elisa Beshero-Bondar: >>>>>> Dear conference organizers (cc: Elli Mylonas, James Cummings, Raffaele Viglianti,, and Hugh Cayless), >>>>>> Here is a challenging question: About half of the TEI Technical Council will be attending DH 2016, and we would like to arrange a special TEI Council meeting while we are here. We realize this is tremendously last-minute, but we are wondering what you might recommend for us. There are just five of us, and we’re wondering if we can locate a small meeting room with strong internet access on campus where we can hold a teleconference call with other Council members who can’t be here—and we might get some pressing Council work done together. We’d like to do this for a couple of hours in the late afternoon or evening one day of the conference, say between Tuesday and Friday next week. I have been working at the Jagiellonian Library today and was issued a library card with its own internet access, and I have already set up edu-roam which is working well for me here. I inquired of the library staff if we might be able to book a small meeting space in the late afternoon/evening sometime next week, and they said they would look but were not optimistic because of the late notice. I thought I would write to you to see if you could recommend any good campus locations for this (or at least some place with stronger connectivity than a cafe in town). >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks! I realize this is a challenging question on such short notice! >>>>>> Elisa >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>>>>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>>>>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>>>>> 150 Finoli Drive >>>>>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>>>>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>>>>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:16 AM, <mailto:info@dh2016.org>info(a)dh2016.org <mailto:info@dh2016.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Participants of DH2016, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is some last-minute housekeeping before we kick off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Numbers >>>>>>> We are now, apparently, 870 strong. No comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Directions >>>>>>> Thanks to suggestions from many sides, we’ve updated, again, the conference map at http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdh2016.adho…>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fun Run >>>>>>> A running tour to the Kościuszko Mound. Distance: 8 km (ca. 55 min). Meeting point: Auditorium Maximum. It’s offered twice. Time: Tuesday (12 July), 7 a.m. and Friday (15 July), 7 a.m. Please sign up at this Doodle, http://doodle.com/poll/wfkvdgtfvp69m2pk <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdoodle.com%…>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Weather >>>>>>> The current weather forecast (http://dh2016.adho.org/weather/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdh2016.adho…>) promises (?) a pleasant and sunny Sunday, a very hot Monday and Tuesday, the latter ending with a thunderstorm; then Wednesday and Thursday might be warm and offer some rain (hence the last-minute addition of raincoats into your conference packs) and a sunny but not hot Friday. Right now, the outlook for Saturday is cloudy, but we’re speaking to various authorities to make it better for the Excursion Day. Speaking of which… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Excursions >>>>>>> Our tour operator will maintain a presence at the main conference building, so if you decide to go on a trip only now, not all is lost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See you very, very soon, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maciej Eder & Jan Rybicki >>>>>>> For the whole DH2016 organizing team >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Prof. em. Dr. Manfred Thaller >>>>> Zuletzt Universität zu Köln / >>>>> Formerly University at Cologne > > -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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Simple : @key or @ref
by Lou Burnard 21 Jul '16

21 Jul '16

I am still toiling in this vineyard. Here's a new question for you to consider. The Simple schema makes available both @ref and @key on both <name> and <rs>. In the prose however only <rs key="arbitrarytoken"> is presented. This seems counter to our current dogma, which would prioritize <name ref="#pointer"> wherever possible, I believe. Since I've now added <particDesc> and hence <person> is available, it would seem better to rework some (or all?) the examples to use that mechanism, e.g. <name ref="#BENM2">Mrs Bennet</name> rather than <rs key="BENM2">

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Build failed in Jenkins: TEIP5-Test-dev #2886
by Victoria TEI Jenkins 19 Jul '16

19 Jul '16

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\ done found schemaSpec testmeta2010_new3 in testmeta2010 Buildfile: <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/antruntest.xml> compileodd: [echo] Do ODD processing using ../Utilities/lib/Saxon-HE-9.4.0.6.jar and source <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/../p5subset.xml> [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/testmeta2010.o…> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/testmeta2010_n…> [xslt] Loading stylesheet /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Stylesheets-dev/lastSuccessful/archive/dist/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/odd2odd.xsl Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored rng: [echo] XSLT generate RELAXNG testmeta2010_new3.rng [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/testmeta2010_n…> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/testmeta2010_n…> [xslt] Loading stylesheet /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Stylesheets-dev/lastSuccessful/archive/dist/xml/tei/stylesheet/profiles/default/relaxng/to.xsl Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored validaterng: [echo] Validate testmeta2010.xml against RELAXNG testmeta2010_new3.rng cleanup: [delete] Deleting: <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/testmeta2010_n…> BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 10 seconds BUILD: Testing files which demonstrate user extensions xmllint --noout --valid extns.xml xmllint --noout --valid extns2.xml BUILD: Testing files which exercise inclusion of fragments java -jar ../Utilities/lib/jing.jar -t -c frag.rnc testfrag.xml Elapsed time 1248+171=1419 milliseconds rnv frag.rnc testfrag.xml testfrag.xml BUILD: Test file with deliberate mistakes ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -lib ../Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar:../Utilities/lib/jing.jar -Dtrang=../Utilities/lib/trang.jar -DdefaultSource=`pwd`/../p5subset.xml -DXSL=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/../../../Stylesheet…> -f antruntest.xml -Doutputname=detest -DoddFile=detest.odd compileodd rng isoschematron cleanup Buildfile: <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/antruntest.xml> compileodd: [echo] Do ODD processing using ../Utilities/lib/Saxon-HE-9.4.0.6.jar and source <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/../p5subset.xml> [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.odd> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.odd.pro…> [xslt] Loading stylesheet /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Stylesheets-dev/lastSuccessful/archive/dist/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/odd2odd.xsl Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored rng: [echo] XSLT generate RELAXNG detest.rng [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.odd.pro…> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.rng> [xslt] Loading stylesheet /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Stylesheets-dev/lastSuccessful/archive/dist/xml/tei/stylesheet/profiles/default/relaxng/to.xsl Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored isoschematron: [echo] XSLT generate ISO schematron detest.isosch from compiled ODD [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.odd.pro…> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.isosch> [xslt] Loading stylesheet /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Stylesheets-dev/lastSuccessful/archive/dist/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/extract-isosch.xsl [xslt] Processing <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.isosch> to <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.xsl> [xslt] Loading stylesheet <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Utilities/iso_schem…> cleanup: [delete] Deleting: <http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/Test/detest.odd.pro…> BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 14 seconds java -jar ../Utilities/lib/trang.jar detest.rng detest.rnc Validate ODD file using Schematron ANT_OPTS="-Xss2m -Xmx752m -Djava.awt.headless=true" ant -lib ../Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar:../Utilities/lib/jing.jar -Dtrang=../Utilities/lib/trang.jar -DdefaultSource=`pwd`/../p5subset.xml -DXSL=<http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/TEIP5-Test-dev/ws/P5/../../../Stylesheet…> -f antruntest.xml -Doutputname=detest -DoddFile=detest.odd validateodd > detest1.log 2>&1 Validate ODD file using RELAX NG schema rnv detest.rnc detest.xml > detest2.log 2>&1 make[1]: [detest] Error 1 (ignored) Validate XML file using Schematron java -Xmx752m -jar ../Utilities/lib/saxon9he.jar -ext:on detest.xml detest.xsl > detest3.log 2>&1 grep "\[xslt\]" detest1.log | sed 's/Processing.*detest.odd//' | sed 's/Loading.*message.isosch.xsl//' > detest.log sed 's/.*detest.xml:/detest.xml:/' detest2.log >> detest.log sed 's/.*detest.xml:/detest.xml:/' detest3.log >> detest.log diff detest.log expected-results/detest.log 2a3,34 > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "remarks" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "desc" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "gloss" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "desc" are required when it is a child of "attDef". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "gloss" are required when it is a child of "attDef". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] > [xslt] Error: both the versionDate and xml:lang attributes on "remarks" are required when it is a child of "elementSpec". > [xslt] (not( @xml:lang and @versionDate )) > [xslt] It does not make sense to make "ONE" the default value of @default-is-in-list-req, because that attribute is required. 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Tonight
by Raffaele Viglianti 15 Jul '16

15 Jul '16

Apologies for the blatant spam to those non attending DH2016. Is anyone *not* going to the banquet tonight? Elena Pierazzo and I are going to eat somewhere in the Jewish quarter and are looking for companions :) Let me know, maybe better off list. Raff

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Krakow Council meeting at DH2016
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 15 Jul '16

15 Jul '16

Dear Council, Since many of us on Council are here in Krakow for the ADHO 2016 conference, at the June Council meeting I volunteered to try to organize us on site. The conference organizers were really helpful in promising to provide us a room as soon as we determined a time for tomorrow afternoon, but because we were all (me included) distracted by sessions and likely to be distracted by them again tomorrow, I think it’s surely too late now to try to organize a virtual meeting. I herewith give up on that, with apologies, but I hope that we Council members on site will at least get together during lunch (at 1pm here in Krakow). Elli has a lunch meeting and could only join at 2, and when we realized that, plus the attractiveness of the afternoon session, we felt as if we’d best just take in the conference tomorrow and not try to organize a hangout session. Looking forward to Raff’s paper tomorrow! Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Friday, I think! Re: Question re Meeting Space Re: DH2016 Last-minute housekeeping > Date: July 14, 2016 at 6:12:34 PM GMT+2 > To: Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller(a)uni-koeln.de>, info(a)dh2016.org, michalchoinski(a)gmail.com, Elli Mylonas <elli_mylonas(a)brown.edu>, James Cummings <James.Cummings(a)it.ox.ac.uk>, Raffaele Viglianti <rviglian(a)umd.edu>, Magdalena Turska <tuurma(a)gmail.com>, Martina Scholger <martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at> > > Was there any followup on this? Should we make alternate plans? > > Sent from my phone. > > On Jul 11, 2016, at 17:53, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> Our full complement is seven, and I believe I’ve had contact with everyone now: I think Friday afternoon / evening is the preferred moment for our special meeting of the TEI Council during the ADHO conference. Can we arrange something? >> >> Many thanks, from the end of the very wonderful eXist workshop! >> Elisa >> -- >> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >> 150 Finoli Drive >> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all from the eXist workshop— I meant to copy Magdalena on this, which means i think that we have six of us potentially meeting. How does everyone feel about Friday afternoon or evening? >>> >>> Elisa >>> -- >>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>> 150 Finoli Drive >>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller(a)uni-koeln.de <mailto:manfred.thaller@uni-koeln.de>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Jan, >>>> MSK seems to be free Tuesday 12th between 1 pm and the opening; also on Wednesday before 11:30 am; also on Thursday after 1 pm; Friday between 1 pm and closing. >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> if Jan does not contradict, I'd propose you use that. >>>> >>>> "MSK": go to http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/ <http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/> click on blue flag. >>>> >>>> (And let info(a)dh2016.org <mailto:info@dh2016.org> come know, when you intend to occupy the room; if possible before you do so.) >>>> >>>> Travel safely, >>>> Manfred >>>> >>>> Am 08.07.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Elisa Beshero-Bondar: >>>>> Dear conference organizers (cc: Elli Mylonas, James Cummings, Raffaele Viglianti,, and Hugh Cayless), >>>>> Here is a challenging question: About half of the TEI Technical Council will be attending DH 2016, and we would like to arrange a special TEI Council meeting while we are here. We realize this is tremendously last-minute, but we are wondering what you might recommend for us. There are just five of us, and we’re wondering if we can locate a small meeting room with strong internet access on campus where we can hold a teleconference call with other Council members who can’t be here—and we might get some pressing Council work done together. We’d like to do this for a couple of hours in the late afternoon or evening one day of the conference, say between Tuesday and Friday next week. I have been working at the Jagiellonian Library today and was issued a library card with its own internet access, and I have already set up edu-roam which is working well for me here. I inquired of the library staff if we might be able to book a small meeting space in the late afternoon/evening sometime next week, and they said they would look but were not optimistic because of the late notice. I thought I would write to you to see if you could recommend any good campus locations for this (or at least some place with stronger connectivity than a cafe in town). >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks! I realize this is a challenging question on such short notice! >>>>> Elisa >>>>> -- >>>>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD >>>>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English >>>>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division >>>>> 150 Finoli Drive >>>>> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA >>>>> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> >>>>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:16 AM, <mailto:info@dh2016.org>info(a)dh2016.org <mailto:info@dh2016.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Participants of DH2016, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is some last-minute housekeeping before we kick off. >>>>>> >>>>>> Numbers >>>>>> We are now, apparently, 870 strong. No comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> Directions >>>>>> Thanks to suggestions from many sides, we’ve updated, again, the conference map at http://dh2016.adho.org/venue/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdh2016.adho…>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fun Run >>>>>> A running tour to the Kościuszko Mound. Distance: 8 km (ca. 55 min). Meeting point: Auditorium Maximum. It’s offered twice. Time: Tuesday (12 July), 7 a.m. and Friday (15 July), 7 a.m. Please sign up at this Doodle, http://doodle.com/poll/wfkvdgtfvp69m2pk <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdoodle.com%…>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Weather >>>>>> The current weather forecast (http://dh2016.adho.org/weather/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fdh2016.adho…>) promises (?) a pleasant and sunny Sunday, a very hot Monday and Tuesday, the latter ending with a thunderstorm; then Wednesday and Thursday might be warm and offer some rain (hence the last-minute addition of raincoats into your conference packs) and a sunny but not hot Friday. Right now, the outlook for Saturday is cloudy, but we’re speaking to various authorities to make it better for the Excursion Day. Speaking of which… >>>>>> >>>>>> Excursions >>>>>> Our tour operator will maintain a presence at the main conference building, so if you decide to go on a trip only now, not all is lost. >>>>>> >>>>>> See you very, very soon, >>>>>> >>>>>> Maciej Eder & Jan Rybicki >>>>>> For the whole DH2016 organizing team >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Prof. em. Dr. Manfred Thaller >>>> Zuletzt Universität zu Köln / >>>> Formerly University at Cologne >>> >>

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Simple problems (2)
by Lou Burnard 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

This is a tricky one, so please bear with me and read to the end before rolling eyes. In Simple, the only available global attribute for recording rendition is @rendition, which (you will recall) is intended to provide a pointer to a <rendition> element, either in the header or elsewhere. So (simplifying somewhat) you might do <p rendition="#foo"> and somewhere in the header have <rendition xml:id="foo"></rendition> and expect "some CSS styling here" to be applied to your <p> Since life is short and we don't really want to have to say that "foo" means "font-style:italic" in every single document we produce, (thus making it impossible to combine documents, because you will have multiple definitions for "foo" ) you can also use a private URI, like this <p rendition="my:foo"> and then in your header map the prefix "my" to some URL where the <rendition> element concerned is to be found inside a <listPrefixDef> containing something like: <prefixDef ident="my" matchPattern="([A-Z]+)" replacementPattern="http://www.example.com/myListOfStyles.xml#$1"/> So far so good, and that mechanism (which is also very useful eg to link from a <name> to a <person> in a personography) is well attested, reasonably well understood, kosher TEI. Unfortunately, Simple doesn't use it, despite appearances. What Simple does is to define a whole shed load of "suggested values" for @rendition using a valList in the ODD, which begins like this: <valList mode="add" type="semi"> <valItem ident="simple:allcaps"> <desc>all capitals</desc> </valItem> <valItem ident="simple:blackletter"> <desc>black letter or gothic typeface</desc> </valItem> <valItem ident="simple:bold"> <desc>bold typeface</desc> </valItem> <valItem ident="simple:bottombraced"> <desc>marked with a brace under the bottom of the text</desc> </valItem> <valItem ident="simple:boxed"> <desc>border around the text</desc> </valItem> So it *looks* like we are defining a whole shed load of private URIs, hoorah. But nowhere is there a <prefixDef> that tells me what the "simple" prefix means i.e. how to map eg "simple:blackletter" to the appropriate CSS! Nor indeed is it clear where such a beast would reside. Maybe one day the TEI will provide a server from which recognised CSS mappings for these private URIs could be recovered, but I am not holding my breath. So, despite appearances, we have to conclude that these things are not really private URIs at all, but rather MAGIC CODES. In which case, really they ought to be being supplied on a @rend attribute... It gets worse. The current schema includes a schematron constraint which says that the value of @rendition MUST be either a local pointer starting with '#' or a magic code starting "simple:". So I cannot define my own prefixes either. All I can do is provide the missing <prefixDef>s myself, which seems a bit hard on the Simple user. At the moment the documentation is tactfully silent around this issue, or was until I introduced a brief explanation of how prefixDef works. Should I now expand this to spell out that users of Simple are expected to provide their own mappings for such of the proposed @rendition values as they choose to use? Or that Simple just provides these things like that, go figure ? And where should they put their mappings? In the header of the document? But then they might as well be defined locally using xml:id and a regular # pointer (especially since you can't put a colon inside an xml:id value). In some other document we're not going to talk about? (My eyeballs, at least, are now rolling)

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Simple problems (3)
by Lou Burnard 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

I see that there is a schematron rule to ensure that anything pointed to by means of a @corresp attribute is actually there, i.e. a test that for each @corresp="#foo" there is somewhere an @xml:id="foo" This seems admirable, but why is it only applicable to @corresp? Surely it is equally important for (at least) the other members of att.pointing.global which Simple includes, i.e. @next, @prev, and @ana ? Sauce goose gander, shirley?

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