November 2019 - Tei-council

Intro to TEI Local Build Processes: Special TEI Council Hangout Session
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

Dear TEI Council colleagues, During today's Stylesheets meeting, those Council members present (me, Martina, Hugh, Syd, and James) agreed that we'd like to organize a special meeting for Council members (new and current) to learn how to run build processes locally for both the TEI Guidelines and the TEI Stylesheets, and also to learn how these processes mutually depend on each other. I agreed to get us started to organize it. For this meeting to work, we'll need the people who are experienced and comfortable with local builds to be present (and also to coordinate a bit in advance to help organize how we proceed)--we're looking at Hugh, Peter, Raff, and Martin. :-) We'll prepare a Google Doc for shared writing to improve and update our documentation on local build processes. We're not thinking anyone should have to do this with Jenkins running locally--but we should probably talk about if/when that's a good idea. And we're really wanting this to be a hands-on practice and documentation session of Guidance that Every Council Member can Access to do local builds when needed. When? A fine day in December for about two hours: We thought December would be an appropriate month for this for reasons of it being a time of transition as new members are joining us and in the process of learning more about how the TEI works, and also because it's a moment when for those of us on teaching semesters, we can find a little more time to spend with reconfiguring things on our computers to get things working properly. We also don't want to impose too much on people's holiday time. For right now, we thought we'd start with a fairly narrow window of days, December 18, 19, and 20, and I've opened up a wide range of possible two-hour blocks. Would you respond to the Doodle Poll we've set up to arrange this special meeting? https://doodle.com/poll/savvhuaszhqg4tw6 For the new Council members joining us: Those of us mentoring you will probably want to do an orientation session or two a little ahead of this meeting to help prepare you. Let's start talking about that soon. :-) Thanks, everyone! Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu

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Re: [Tei-council] Stylesheets meeting, Tue 05 Nov 14:00Z
by James Cummings 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

Hi Syd, Yeah, I've long outsourced my life to Google the way some do to Apple or Microsoft. Indeed one can use our both by app (that sounds right to me) and Web. I find the Web version more reliable to be honest but video conferencing never works well on my phone regardless of what sort. ;-) I've consultation hours at that point so may have students showing up occasionally so may come go. Apologies to everyone if that is the case. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Syd Bauman <s.bauman(a)northeastern.edu> Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2019 10:54:10 PM To: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org>; Martin Holmes <mholmes(a)uvic.ca>; Lou Burnard <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] Stylesheets meeting, Tue 05 Nov 14:00Z James -- Thanks for pointing that out. I am (almost) a complete Google Ignoramous, so am very happy to hear that my perception of reality is a bit skewed and we can keep using the Google Thing we've been using before. But I note your use of the word "app", implying that there is a smartphone app I could run to join the conversation on Tuesday. (I am afraid there is a good chance I will not be at a computer.) I have to admit, that thought had not occured to me. I just tried to find it ... is it "Hangouts Meet by Google"? I suppose I could try https://hangouts.google.com on Safari on my phone, but that sounds a bit odd. > When you say "In the past we've met in Google Hangouts, but I > understand some folks want to move on to a technology that is not > being actively dismantled. Suggestions welcome." > > This seems to misrepresent the situation. Although literally true > it is because Hangouts has already been replaced with Google > Hangouts Meet and Google Hangouts Chat. Two separate apps. The > former (Hangouts Meet) is what we've been using for ages so there > is no need for us to change any thing as far as I'm aware. > > Just seeking to clarify. _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Re: [Tei-council] Stylesheets meeting, Tue 05 Nov 14:00Z
by James Cummings 03 Nov '19

03 Nov '19

Dear Syd, When you say "In the past we've met in Google Hangouts, but I understand some folks want to move on to a technology that is not being actively dismantled. Suggestions welcome." This seems to misrepresent the situation. Although literally true it is because Hangouts has already been replaced with Google Hangouts Meet and Google Hangouts Chat. Two separate apps. The former (Hangouts Meet) is what we've been using for ages so there is no need for us to change any thing as far as I'm aware. Just seeking to clarify. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Syd Bauman <s.bauman(a)northeastern.edu> Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 1:49:29 PM To: TEI Council <tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org>; Martin Holmes <mholmes(a)uvic.ca>; Lou Burnard <lou.burnard(a)retired.ox.ac.uk> Subject: [Tei-council] Stylesheets meeting, Tue 05 Nov 14:00Z We have a Stylesheets Group meeting scheduled for this coming Tue 2019-11-05 14:00Z. timing ------ Note that due to daylight savings time shifts, this time might be different than what you expect. It will be: * 06:00 PST (Victoria) * 09:00 EST (New York) * 14:00 GMT (London) * 15:00 CET (Berlin) * 16:00 EET (do we even have anyone in EET?) place ----- In the past we've met in Google Hangouts, but I understand some folks want to move on to a technology that is not being actively dismantled. Suggestions welcome. topics ------ 1) Ticket 393.[1] Martin and I *think* we know where the problem is, and have created a little ODD file for testing. See the ticket itself for both of those. 2) Ticket 399.[2] Martin has posted where he thinks the problem is on the ticket. If he's right (and I have no reason to believe he isn't), I'm not sure I like his proposed solution. So this may require some discussion. I will try to have a testing ODD up on the ticket later today. notes ----- [1] https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/393 [2] https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/399 _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Stylesheets meeting, Tue 05 Nov 14:00Z
by Syd Bauman 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

We have a Stylesheets Group meeting scheduled for this coming Tue 2019-11-05 14:00Z. timing ------ Note that due to daylight savings time shifts, this time might be different than what you expect. It will be: * 06:00 PST (Victoria) * 09:00 EST (New York) * 14:00 GMT (London) * 15:00 CET (Berlin) * 16:00 EET (do we even have anyone in EET?) place ----- In the past we've met in Google Hangouts, but I understand some folks want to move on to a technology that is not being actively dismantled. Suggestions welcome. topics ------ 1) Ticket 393.[1] Martin and I *think* we know where the problem is, and have created a little ODD file for testing. See the ticket itself for both of those. 2) Ticket 399.[2] Martin has posted where he thinks the problem is on the ticket. If he's right (and I have no reason to believe he isn't), I'm not sure I like his proposed solution. So this may require some discussion. I will try to have a testing ODD up on the ticket later today. notes ----- [1] https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/393 [2] https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/399

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