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Comments needed
by Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at) 18 Jan '18

18 Jan '18

Hi! Wrapping up my tickets, I came across two issues which would require some input: a) https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1702, I think the proposal on making <pc> and <lbl> a member of model.entryPart.top for encoding print dictionaries looks reasonable to me. Could you take a look at this and tell me your thoughts? b) https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1420 I didn't manage to adjust the content model of <valItem> to reflect that the <remarks> element is only allowed if the <desc> element is present as well. Can anyone help me with that? This is the current content model: <content> <sequence> <alternate minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"> <classRef key="model.descLike"/> <classRef key="model.glossLike"/> </alternate>  <elementRef key="paramList" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/> </sequence> </content> Best, Martina Martina Scholger Centre for Information Modelling Austrian Centre for Digital Humanities University of Graz Elisabethstraße 59/III 8010 Graz

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ticket 1515 green for what?
by Syd Bauman 17 Jan '18

17 Jan '18

TEI issue 1515 (see https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1515) is labeled green and assigned to me. The comment back in Prague was "Should use zone, but outside of figure, sibling (within surface for ex.)", which suggestion was posted on the ticket 02-06. OP came back less than 22 hours later pointing out that the semantics of @facs does not really permit this encoding. What, if anything, should I be doing with this? Possibilities: 1) Change description of @facs to something like "provides an attribute used to express correspondence between an element and all or part of a facsimile of that which is encoded by the element". 1a) Same, but also add the example in the ticket to the GLs. 1b) Same, but also add <remarks> to the effect of "The typical use of @facs is to associate an element containing transcribed text with all or part of an image representing that text. However, it may also be used to establish the same sort of correspondence between the encoding of an object and a facsimile thereof (e.g., between a transcription of speech and an audio recording of said speech; between the encoding of a printed figure in a textbook and a scanned image thereof; between the <damage> element representing a crack in a headstone and a 3-D model of the headstone". 1c) Same as (1b), but also note in the <remarks> that the <timeline> element may be used to create a transcription of speech with a temporal alignment thereof. 1d) (1a) & (1b) 1e) (1a) & (1c) 2) Tell the OP he can't do that, he has to use <media> or <graphic> (which are allowed inside <zone>) and close the ticket. 3) Per OP request, revert our decision in Prague and change the content model of <zone> to allow <figure>. Personally, I am leaning strongly towards (1d) or (1e), but am open to hearing arguments against.

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Re: [tei-council] release plan
by James Cummings 17 Jan '18

17 Jan '18

re: ISO standards, I don't think TEI-C has any special access to them, no. Some have had access in the past through various institutions (I don't currently). Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> Sent: 15 January 2018 16:33:24 To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Subject: Re: [tei-council] release plan Hi Peter and all, I took about 30 minutes again reviewing the proposal from issue 1671 (the ticket with all the discussion is 1670:https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1670 <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1670> ). I think the @join attribute is fine as proposed because it’s already an ISO standard, and exemplified in 1670 as well as in Maik Stührenberg’s 2012 article in JTEI: “The TEI and Current Standards for Structuring Linguistic Data”: http://journals.openedition.org/jtei/523 <http://journals.openedition.org/jtei/523> (search for “join” to zoom to the example). If we don’t have issues with this example, presumably we’re okay with Piotr’s pull request here? In our minutes from the Victoria F2f, we asked "We think @join is fine but wonder if a different name could be used, or is that exactly what this is called in ISO 24611?” I looked it up, and the ISO standard referenced here is from 2012: ISO 24611:2012 (en) and the section with the join attribute is B3.2. (https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:24611:ed-1:v1:en <https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:24611:ed-1:v1:en> ) A sidenote and a rookie question: Because ISO standards are often relevant to our work, it seems like we ought to be able to access them fully—but this one doesn’t come free. Does TEI have some special mode of access to ISO standards, such as an ANSI membership? Cheers, Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Peter Stadler <stadler(a)edirom.de> wrote: > > Dear all, > > the build seems to be broken right now (or am I wrong)? > Can we fix this before refrigerating? > > Additionally, I’d like to please Piotr and accept his PR https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/pull/1671 concerning issue https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1670. > IMHO, the only question for us is whether anyone feels strong to come up with a more general application (and name) for the proposed attribute @join? Otherwise, I’ll merge … > > Best > Peter > > >> Am 15.01.2018 um 15:25 schrieb Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger(a)uni-graz.at) <martina.scholger(a)UNI-GRAZ.AT>: >> >> Refrigerate: Thu 18 - Wed 24 January. In this period no major changes which could possibly break the schema should be done any more. Minor changes (prose, typos) are fine until the 24th. > > -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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Re: [tei-council] POSTPONED - RomaJS meeting
by James Cummings 17 Jan '18

17 Jan '18

Dear Raff, Oh no! Get well soon! Lots of fluids and bed rest! Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Sent: 17 January 2018 11:52:02 To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Subject: [tei-council] POSTPONED - RomaJS meeting All, I came down with a nasty stomach bug and I'm running a high fever. I'm afraid we're going to have to postpone the meeting. Apologies! Raff -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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POSTPONED - RomaJS meeting
by Raffaele Viglianti 17 Jan '18

17 Jan '18

All, I came down with a nasty stomach bug and I'm running a high fever. I'm afraid we're going to have to postpone the meeting. Apologies! Raff

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Re: [tei-council] POSTPONED - RomaJS meeting
by Alejandro Bia 17 Jan '18

17 Jan '18

Hope you get better. Take care! Best, Alex.- At 12:52 17/01/2018, you wrote: >All, > >I came down with a nasty stomach bug and I'm running a high fever. I'm >afraid we're going to have to postpone the meeting. Apologies! > >Raff >-- >tei-council mailing list >tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived --------------------------------------------------------- ALEJANDRO BIA e-mail: abia(a)umh.es CIO - DEMI Centro de Investigación Operativa Departamento de Estadística, Matemáticas e Informática Área de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos Universidad Miguel Hernández Ed. Torretamarit, Av. Universidad s/n, CP:03202, Elche, ESPAÑA Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ Tel: +34 966658973 Móvil: +34 644447008 Skype: alex-bia Twitter: @alex_bia --------------------------------------------------------- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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standOff conf call
by Peter Stadler 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

Dear all, during yesterdays Council conf call I forwarded Laurent’s proposal to discuss the current status/issues of the pending standOff proposal with us. That’s probably much better than me being an intermediary, so here’s the poll: https://doodle.com/poll/uhdfph5pc95fatky I already pointed Council at https://github.com/laurentromary/stdfSpec/tree/AnnArbor/Scenarios for a first draft of Stand-off use cases as envisioned by Laurent. All the best Peter

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any comments on issue 1729?
by Mylonas, Elli 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

I'll fix by Th. am if no complaints. This is one of the things that came up as Syd and I are working through the unclassed attributes. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1729 --elli

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Agenda for RomaJS meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC
by Raffaele Viglianti 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

Dear all, Here's the agenda for tomorrow's meeting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SiWIZyNa3uHjzBLN1YQw5_CrlZbFUAz-53gN0I2… If you wanted to have a look at the new stuff, here's what you can do (these instructions are on the agenda doc also): Latest iteration: http://mith.us/romajs - Click on “(TEST: SKIP OXGARAGE)”, it will load TEI Bare - Add ‘ab’ and click on it OR - Search for ‘div’ and click on it See you tomorrow! I'll send a hangout link 15 or 10 minutes before the meeting. All best, Raff

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Is there a meeting now?
by Alejandro Bia 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

Hi all, Is there a Stylesheets-group meeting now? How can I connect? Best, Alex.- --------------------------------------------------------- ALEJANDRO BIA e-mail: abia(a)umh.es CIO - DEMI Centro de Investigación Operativa Departamento de Estadística, Matemáticas e Informática Área de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos Universidad Miguel Hernández Ed. Torretamarit, Av. Universidad s/n, CP:03202, Elche, ESPAÑA Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ Tel: +34 966658973 Móvil: +34 644447008 Skype: alex-bia Twitter: @alex_bia --------------------------------------------------------- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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