September 2017 - Tei-council

co-operative stylesheet education session #12
by Syd Bauman 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

I believe we are scheduled for this coming Thu 10-05 13:00Z, i.e.: * 06:00 PDT * 09:00 EDT * 14:00 BST * 15:00 CEST However, there is only a 50% chance I can make that meeting myself. Our homework from the last session was for each of us to come up with a solution and a test file. But we also realized that having a comprehensive idea of what should be happening is a good idea. So it seems to me & Martin that our first step should be deciding what the proper outcome is for each combination of the various flavors of the various constructs involved (e.g., adding a new attribute to a list that is a closed list). To that end we have started developing a comprehensive test file and table of the possible combinations on the ticket.

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RomaJS meetings
by Raffaele Viglianti 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

Hello, I would like to set a 1-hour call for sometime next week to kick things off. I said Fridays would be good, but actually I'll be in Charlottesville at the end of this week, so these are times that would work for me (all times are in EDT): Tuesday 3 Oct 9am - 10am Tuesday 3 Oct between 2pm - 5pm Wednesday 4 Oct between 9am - 12pm Please let me know if you're interest in attending, your time preference, or if you're interested but cannot make those times. While it's true that you'll need to know some Javascript to help, there is a fair bit of conceptual work that wouldn't require you to code. For example: what operations should one be able to do with elements? What about defining their content model? What parts of the ODD (and its JSON counterpart) should be queried and how? Coming up with algorithms / strategies together can be as useful as writing the real thing. Also, based on my email from yesterday about p5subset.json, it's now likely that there will be some XSLT work required as well, which most of you can help with. We still need to discuss what changes are needed and why, and I'm hoping we can focus on this during the call. If you want to try helping with JS coding and are not familiar with React/Redux, you could start form these short pieces to get a summary idea: https://reactjs.org/tutorial/tutorial.html#what-is-react http://redux.js.org/docs/introduction/Motivation.html http://redux.js.org/docs/introduction/CoreConcepts.html Because development is underway, there is already a lot of boilerplate code that can be copied to create new places where to hold data, new operations, and new UI components. But you'll still need to figure out how to connect everything together. I am happy to do code walkthroughs. Thanks, Raff

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Re: [tei-council] p5subset.json
by James Cummings 28 Sep '17

28 Sep '17

There were some other people who had built things on top of it.... I don't remember what though. I remember us getting some questions about it at some point though. What are the kinds of changes you want to make? As long as not drastic then I don't see why not. We don't claim it is a perfect serialization to JSON. 😉 Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Sent: 28 September 2017 16:16:45 To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Subject: [tei-council] p5subset.json Hi all, Does anyone know if p5subset.json is used for anything except Byzantium at the moment? In short, can I change the XSLT that generates it as I please? Raff -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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GitHub Issues: Milestones 3.30
by James Cummings 28 Sep '17

28 Sep '17

As discussed in the meeting I went through and assigned some unassigned tickets. You can always move those to someone else if you can't do it, or ping people to get them to contribute. (Remember, being assigned doesn't mean you necessarily *do* the ticket, just that it is your responsibility to ensure it *gets done*) Some of you may have noticed (and if you didn't, check that you have your github account set to notify you!) that I added the 3.3.0 milestone to many many issues. Basically _most_ of the issues that were open and had Status:Go (with the logic that if they have that status then they should be done by the next release....right? Obviously not all of these will be done by the next release and most of them are not "release-blocking" in any way. You can just _remove_ the milestone, or if you know you will do it before the following release change the milestone to the 3.4.0 release (just added). The benefit of this is when we come to release 3.3.0 we'll go through all these and ask "Hey, this has been around since 2012, why the heck haven't we just *done* it already!" Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University

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p5subset.json
by Raffaele Viglianti 28 Sep '17

28 Sep '17

Hi all, Does anyone know if p5subset.json is used for anything except Byzantium at the moment? In short, can I change the XSLT that generates it as I please? Raff

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Re: [tei-council] Reminder, September telecon
by James Cummings 28 Sep '17

28 Sep '17

Just to say I might be slightly late to the meeting as I'll be running back to my office from across campus from another meeting. (But maybe this one I'm in at the moment will end early, who knows.) Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> Sent: 28 September 2017 03:18:38 To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Subject: Re: [tei-council] Reminder, September telecon Hi Hugh and all— Should we take a look at Google Meet, which seems to be a paid-for version of Hangouts with HD video? I’ve been hosting a number of hangouts meetings with DH student-instructor teams at Pitt this month and the lags are predictable and annoying—and I’m nearly (but not quite) ready to spring for a paid upgrade for my own sanity. To get the paid version, I guess you set up a G Suites account for at min, $5 per month—Is that something maybe the TEI can budget for Council? See https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html?tab_activeEl=tabset-companies <https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html?tab_activeEl=tabset-companies> —Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > On Sep 25, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry to hear that Alex. Safe travels! > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Alejandro Bia <abia(a)umh.es> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> On Thursday I'll be on an intercontinental flight from Spain to Uruguay. >> I will not be able to join the meeting this time. Sorry. >> >> Best, >> Alex.- >> >> >> At 17:26 25/09/2017, Hugh Cayless wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> We're meeting this Thursday at 09:00 EST / 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 >>> CEST. Draft agenda is here: >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QIfi1ganpSs5g8TCC4x- >>> aUKo-gs0QHf3nSyssqeDFQc/edit?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> I'd like to see if we can get some of our "Needs Discussion" backlog >>> turned >>> green, so if you have any you'd like the go-ahead on, please add them to >>> the list. I've just stuck some of the more recent ones in there as a >>> starting point. >>> >>> Elli won't be back from vacation, so I don't think we can use the Brown >>> hangout this time. We could try something different if anyone has any >>> suggestions, or I may just bite the bullet and sign up for a paid Google >>> office suite thing, which will give us up to 25 simultaneous users. >>> >>> Hugh >>> -- >>> tei-council mailing list >>> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>> >>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> ALEJANDRO BIA >> e-mail: abia(a)umh.es >> >> CIO - DEMI >> Centro de Investigación Operativa >> Departamento de Estadística, Matemáticas e Informática >> Área de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos >> >> Universidad Miguel Hernández >> Ed. Torretamarit, Av. Universidad s/n, CP:03202, Elche, ESPAÑA >> Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ >> Tel: +34 966658973 >> Móvil: +34 644447008 >> Skype: alex-bia >> Twitter: @alex_bia >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> -- >> tei-council mailing list >> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >> >> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >> > -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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Re: [tei-council] Reminder, September telecon
by Alejandro Bia 27 Sep '17

27 Sep '17

Hi All, On Thursday I'll be on an intercontinental flight from Spain to Uruguay. I will not be able to join the meeting this time. Sorry. Best, Alex.- At 17:26 25/09/2017, Hugh Cayless wrote: >Hi All, > >We're meeting this Thursday at 09:00 EST / 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 >CEST. Draft agenda is here: >https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QIfi1ganpSs5g8TCC4x-aUKo-gs0QHf3nSyssqe… > > >I'd like to see if we can get some of our "Needs Discussion" backlog turned >green, so if you have any you'd like the go-ahead on, please add them to >the list. I've just stuck some of the more recent ones in there as a >starting point. > >Elli won't be back from vacation, so I don't think we can use the Brown >hangout this time. We could try something different if anyone has any >suggestions, or I may just bite the bullet and sign up for a paid Google >office suite thing, which will give us up to 25 simultaneous users. > >Hugh >-- >tei-council mailing list >tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived --------------------------------------------------------- ALEJANDRO BIA e-mail: abia(a)umh.es CIO - DEMI Centro de Investigación Operativa Departamento de Estadística, Matemáticas e Informática Área de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos Universidad Miguel Hernández Ed. Torretamarit, Av. Universidad s/n, CP:03202, Elche, ESPAÑA Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ Tel: +34 966658973 Móvil: +34 644447008 Skype: alex-bia Twitter: @alex_bia --------------------------------------------------------- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Dealing with an abbreviation that expands to multiple lines of verse
by Raffaele Viglianti 25 Sep '17

25 Sep '17

Dear List, We're encoding a number of early-modern songs for a pilot project and we are wondering how to deal with a special form of abbreviation and its expansion. An example: image from EEBO <https://eebo.chadwyck.com/search/full_rec?SOURCE=pgimages.cfg&ACTION=ByID&I…> You can see at the bottom of the left page that the last line reads: "But I have vow'd, &c.". The "&c." indicates that the rest of the refrain is to be sung; you can find it underlain in the score above, starting at about a third of the page: "But I have vow'd, and never muſt your baniſh'd ſervant trouble you for if he break you may diſtruſt, the vow he made to love you too.". We would like to encode both the "&c." and the expansion, but since this spans multiple lines, we are not able to use <choice> with <abbr> and <expan>. What should we do instead? <lg type="stanza">  <l>About with him he bears the rage,</l> <l>And in his tainted bloud the fire.</l> <l>But I have vow'd, &c.</l>  </lg> We could link together expansions, but the choice remains somewhat incomplete, as it only wraps the first part of the expansion: <l>But I have vow'd, <choice><abbr>&c.</abbr><expan xml:id="ex1" next="#ex2">and never must</expan></choice></l> <l><expan xml:id="ex2" prev="#ex1" next="#ex3">your banish'd servant trouble you</expan></l> <l><expan xml:id="ex3" prev="#ex2" next="#ex4">for if he break you may distrust,</expan></l> <l><expan xml:id="ex4" prev="#ex3">the vow he made to love you too.</expan></l> Another possibility could be wrapping the refrain in a nested <lg> and give it a subtype, but I'm not too happy about it. It also doesn't indicate clearly what was on the original document and what was expanded because "But I have vow'd," gets bundled with the rest. <l rend="indent1">And in his tainted bloud the fire.</l> <lg type="refrain" subtype="expanded"> <l>But I have vow'd, <choice> <abbr>&c.</abbr> <expan>and never muſt</expan> </choice> </l> <l>your baniſh'd ſervant trouble you</l> <l>for if he break you may diſtruſt,</l> <l><expan>the vow he made to love you too.</expan></l> </lg> </lg> Thanks for any advice you can provide! Raff -- Raffaele Viglianti, PhD Research Programmer Maryland Institute for Technology in the Humanities University of Maryland

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Reminder, September telecon
by Hugh Cayless 25 Sep '17

25 Sep '17

Hi All, We're meeting this Thursday at 09:00 EST / 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 CEST. Draft agenda is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QIfi1ganpSs5g8TCC4x-aUKo-gs0QHf3nSyssqe… I'd like to see if we can get some of our "Needs Discussion" backlog turned green, so if you have any you'd like the go-ahead on, please add them to the list. I've just stuck some of the more recent ones in there as a starting point. Elli won't be back from vacation, so I don't think we can use the Brown hangout this time. We could try something different if anyone has any suggestions, or I may just bite the bullet and sign up for a paid Google office suite thing, which will give us up to 25 simultaneous users. Hugh

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dates for XML Prague 2018
by Syd Bauman 22 Sep '17

22 Sep '17

XML Prague 2018 will be from Thu 02-08 to Sat 02-10, with preconference workshops Tue 02-06 and Wed 02-07, I think. http://www.xmlprague.cz/

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