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Reminder: Last day for early-bird rate
by Hugh Cayless 23 Oct '17

23 Oct '17

Don't forget to register at http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/registration.php Hugh

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wiki-source editions; and F2F arrangements
by Elisa Beshero-Bondar 21 Oct '17

21 Oct '17

Hi everyone-- Do any of us have connections with the evidently ongoing work of Wikipedia's Wikisource editions? I've been noticing these increasingly lately as I'm preparing for classes and hunting for readily available online texts. They are evidently working with a controlled vocabulary (see: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Header and https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Help:Adding_texts ) but I wonder what connection if any they (or we) might envision between the texts they are preparing and the TEI community. I fear the answer is, "no connection," and "we aren't involved and can't be", but I hope there's perhaps some overlap in our communities here--they are evidently putting some energy into generating new editions for the public web lately. On an unrelated note, I just booked my tickets for the TEI conference and our F2F--I'll be arriving Saturday 11/11, probably around 4 - 5 pm, and I'll be leaving Saturday 11/18 with an 8:40pm red-eye flight. I'm staying in an AirBNB I found very close to U Vic about a block around the corner from the University Club--and I'd be happy to inquire of the host if there's another room or two in the vicinity--it seemed ideal. Cheers, Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <ebb8(a)pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org

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Re: [tei-council] RomaJS next meeting
by Alejandro Bia 12 Oct '17

12 Oct '17

Doodle should show local times, and also allow to select other time zones, but in this one I can't find the way. The fact is that now I'm un Uruguay, but on the 30th I'll be in Spain. So I'll make my time-shift calculations. ;-) BTW: Is there a test version to try the current version of RomaJS? Best, Alex.- At 22:01 12/10/2017, you wrote: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64I entered the >dates as EDT, but I thought Doodle would show you your local >times. If Mon Oct 30 shows 9am as the first option, then it's showing EDT. > >Raff > >On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Alejandro Bia <abia(a)umh.es> wrote: > > > > > What time zone is used in the Doodle]MHLÌ@0/2017, you wrote: > > > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64No worries Elisa! During this meeting we >ÛÛÚY\Ye idea of getting > >> Roma to be minimally functional by the Members Meeting, so that Hugh can > >Ú]HH\ÜÈthe community. By minimally functional we mean: > >> 1. being able to load either a local ODD or one of the "official" > >> customizations from the Vault; > >Ù[XÝ[Ù[\À and elements (already working); > >> 3. export updated ODD (already working); > >^ÜØÚ[XKà ø$Ñ¡¥¹¬Ñ is is definitely doable >in time for the meeting, but it would be >[[È]H[Ý\ÚXÚËZ[HÙYZÈYÀre to check on progress and > >\ØÝ\ÜÈ]£M¼¡És a doodle for who wants and is able to attend: > >> https://beta.doodle.com/poll/abavsneipr5hy5uk > >Fæ²÷R >> Raff >âöâvVBÂö7BÂ#rBs£3bÒÂVÆ6ÆV& ondar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> HYX¡(Î pæðç1dñoÛÀuldnt make it this time! I got caught up in > >> YY]X¡(°ç0àÈÝY[ËÚ[ÛÚÈÜH^ÛHH\È] going to be > >1hVø¡(°â1d¸ &0à¸ «0¨ðè°á¸ % >°¨ðè8 «0´´(ø ±¥Í Í¡É¼µondar, PhD > >> \XÝÜÙ[ \ÜHYÚ][^ \ÜÛÀciate Professor of English > >[]\Ú]HÙ]Ø\Ú]ÜY[Ø\S1hVøºÛH]KÜ > Y[Ø \ËHMMHTÐB E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu | Development site: >ËÛ]Ý\KÜà >> \\Ù]H[Û^HTY öâö7BÂ#7, >at 2:51 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < >&ffVÆWfvÆçFvÖ¦6öÜ9Î( ÝNà£â !±±¼°( > >¾(J,9¼9ÕÕ¼Z8ì¸g3¢ð/hangouts.google.com/call/7STsUXyknzMo6uLs-FA8AAEE > >> > Agenda: > >> > ÎËÙØÜËÛÛÙÛKÛÛKÙØÝ[Y[ÙÌM×ÝÎn8Zq_ > >> > GzpWUbBRn1w8kOyhGiToKlcvzjt9AbtvQ/edit\Ü\Ú\[Â > ÙYH[ÝH[LZ[ > >W0â2á²á²çx¡(¸ &âöâ7VâÂðct 8, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < > >> YY[]iglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > X\[ âÀooks like the best time to meet will be Wednesday Oct > >LH]ÜHQâ( ®( ¤Þ(¢ å½Ô Ñ¡¸(ø> Raff > >2á°àue, Oct 3, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < > >raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > àø > !Â±±¼°(ø>â¸d(¬9µ.( Ü8Þ(J%¼9Å²Õ¾(J,80\È\H[ [today, so we are > >ø .±hVø¡(2á8 &°é°íÑ¸ W"ÖVWFærf÷"æWt week > either Wednesday or Thursday (as I'll > >> be > >> > away > >òá°æðâ0æVV°ç0â8 .°ç8 ºHÝÊKHYXH\ÈÈØÝ\ÈÛÝ\ÝÀmizing the content > >ðæVðæráÖÖVÈ8 .x &°è0î >²áX\ÙH[\ÈÀodle poll with your availability > >> if you're > >[\@sted >1¤°è°«pèÑ°«M¸ %°«péÈ8 «0îÎËÙÛÙKÛÛ@/poll/pmyppcwwcsk9bfu7 >îk\Ý >³àøI > >2á8 &2á°è8 «0î8 «00 >0î8 «ZKXÛÝ[Ú[XZ[@ng list >2áÖ0æðçVòç0æ×0çpâÈÖ0â(¬9Î(J"¸l¸n(8¼9°\ÝË\ÝÈ >«ZKXËÜËÛXZ[X[Û\Ý[ËÝZKXÛÝ[Ú[ > >PTÑHÕE: postings to this list are publicly archived >Ð2áXÛÝ[Ú[XZ[[È\ÝâFVÖ6÷Væ6Älists.tei-c.org > >ËÛ\ÝË\ÝËZKXËÜËÛXZ[X[/listinfo/tei-council > >PTÑHÕNÜÝ[ÜÈÈthis list are publicly archived >8 >.RÒÖ0æðçVòç0æÖÀX¡(°â0çHÖ0æðçVòç0æ×0çpâÈÖ0â(*Æ÷&p >ø¡ÑÑ(¼½±¥ÍÑÌ¸lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >> > >> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------- >SRSÈPBK[XZ[XXP[Z\ÒSÈHSRBCentro de Investigación Operativa >\\[Y[ÈH\Ý@dística, Matemáticas e Informática >0à\XHH[ÝXZ@s y Sistemas Informáticos > > >[]\ÚYYZYÝY[\°è@ndez >YÜ][X\]][]\ÚYYËÛÔÌElche, ESPAÑA > > Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ > > Tel: +34 966658973 > > Móvil: +34 644447008 >ÚÞ\N[^Xia > > Twitter: @alex_bia > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > -- >ZKXÛÝ[Ú[XZ[[È\Àt >ZKXÛÝ[Ú[\ÝËZKXËÜÂGG¢òöÆ7G2æÆ7G2çFVÐc.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-coun… >PTÑHÕNÜÝ@ngs to this list are publicly archived > > >-- >tei-council mailing list >tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org >http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived --------------------------------------------------------- ALEJANDRO BIA e-mail: abia(a)umh.es CIO - DEMI Centro de Investigación Operativa Departamento de Estadística, Matemáticas e Informática Área de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos Universidad Miguel Hernández Ed. Torretamarit, Av. Universidad s/n, CP:03202, Elche, ESPAÑA Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ Tel: +34 966658973 Móvil: +34 644447008 Skype: alex-bia Twitter: @alex_bia ---------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [tei-council] RomaJS next meeting
by Alejandro Bia 12 Oct '17

12 Oct '17

What time zone is used in the Doodle? At 16:21 12/10/2017, you wrote: >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64No worries >Elisa! During this meeting we considered the idea of getting >Roma to be minimally functional by the Members Meeting, so that Hugh can >give a report to the community. By minimally functional we mean: >1. being able to load either a local ODD or one of the "official" >customizations from the Vault; >2. select modules and elements (already working); >3. export updated ODD (already working); >4. export schema. > >I think this is definitely doable in time for the meeting, but it would be >helpful to have another check-in the week before to check on progress and >discuss it. > >So here's a doodle for who wants and is able to attend: >https://beta.doodle.com/poll/abavsneipr5hy5uk > >Thank you! >Raff > >On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Elisa <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >HY[[8 %ÛÜHHÛÀuldnt make it this time! I got caught up in >YY][ÜÀ w students...will look for the next one! Is that going to be >\[ÈHÂ£âVÆ6£à ´´(ø±¥Í Í¡É¼µondar, PhD >\XÝÜÙ[\ÜHYÚ][^\ÜÛÀciate Professor of English > > University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg >ML[ÛH]KÜY[Ø\ËHMMHTÐB E-mail: >ebb8(a)pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org > > >\\Ù]H[Û^HTYöâö7BÂ#7, at 2:51 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < > > raffaeleviglianti@gmail.comÜÝNà£â!±±¼°( > > > [ÛÝ][Îps://hangouts.google.com/call/7STsUXyknzMo6uLs-FA8AAEE > > > Agenda: > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_w8jn8Zq_ > > > GzpWUbBRn1w8kOyhGiToKlcvzjt9AbtvQ/edit\Ü\Ú\[Â > > ÙYH[ÝH[LZ[]\ÈBYâöâ7VâÂðct 8, > 2017 at 6:51 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < >YY[]iglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > X\[âÀooks like the best time to > meet will be Wednesday Oct 11 at 3pm EDT. > > Må½ÔÑ¡¸(ø> Raff > > >> > > Àn Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < > > >> raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > àø!±±¼°(ø>> > > HÛXRÈ][ÜY[YY][ÈØ\È\H[[today, so we are >[[æ÷FW"ÖVWFærf÷"æWt week either Wednesday or Thursday (as I'll be > > away > > >>[ÛÈÙYZÜÈÜHÝÊKHYXH\ÈÈØÝ\ÈÛÝ\ÝÀmizing the content > > >>[Ù[Ù[[Y[àø( >lease fill this doodle > poll with your availability if you're > > interested >ââ'F6Fæs ø> https://doodle.com/poll/pmyppcwwcsk9bfu7 > > >>ÆÂ&W7B ø> Raff > > >>à ø´´(ø tei-council mailing list >ZKXÛÝ[Ú[\ÝËZKXËÜËÛ\ÝË\ÝËtei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PTÑHÕE: postings to this list are publicly archived >KBZ@-council mailing list > > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >KHZKXÛÝ[Ú[XZ[[È\ÝZKXÛÝ[Ú[\ÝËZKXËorg >http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived --------------------------------------------------------- ALEJANDRO BIA e-mail: abia(a)umh.es CIO - DEMI Centro de Investigación Operativa Departamento de Estadística, Matemáticas e Informática Área de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos Universidad Miguel Hernández Ed. Torretamarit, Av. Universidad s/n, CP:03202, Elche, ESPAÑA Web: http://dhw.umh.es/alex-bia/ Tel: +34 966658973 Móvil: +34 644447008 Skype: alex-bia Twitter: @alex_bia --------------------------------------------------------- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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RomaJS next meeting
by Raffaele Viglianti 12 Oct '17

12 Oct '17

Hello, The RomaJS development meeting was very helpful today, so we are planning another meeting for next week either Wednesday or Thursday (as I'll be away in two weeks form now). The idea is to focus on customizing the content model of elements. Please fill this doodle poll with your availability if you're interested in participating: https://doodle.com/poll/pmyppcwwcsk9bfu7 All best, Raff

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xincludes and odd processing
by Raffaele Viglianti 05 Oct '17

05 Oct '17

Hello, I'm with MEI folks in Charlottesville and we'd like to use XInclude to help us modularize some of the MEI ODD source. Would it make sense to expect something like bin/teitorelaxng to handle XInclude, or do we have to take care of it before passing it on to the stylesheets (we'd rather not)? Thanks for your thoughts, Raff

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Meeting Catering
by Hugh Cayless 05 Oct '17

05 Oct '17

Any thoughts on refreshments/meals during the F2F? I will have to make arrangements at least a couple of weeks prior with the hotel if we want coffee/lunch brought in. Hugh

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co-operative stylesheet education session #12
by Syd Bauman 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

I believe we are scheduled for this coming Thu 10-05 13:00Z, i.e.: * 06:00 PDT * 09:00 EDT * 14:00 BST * 15:00 CEST However, there is only a 50% chance I can make that meeting myself. Our homework from the last session was for each of us to come up with a solution and a test file. But we also realized that having a comprehensive idea of what should be happening is a good idea. So it seems to me & Martin that our first step should be deciding what the proper outcome is for each combination of the various flavors of the various constructs involved (e.g., adding a new attribute to a list that is a closed list). To that end we have started developing a comprehensive test file and table of the possible combinations on the ticket.

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Re: [tei-council] RomaJS meetings
by James Cummings 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

Hi all, It turns out I'm not going to be able to make 2:30pm EDT. (Which I think is 7:30pm here?) I'm happy to help try and break what Raff (and others) produce, test it with weird ODDs, etc. Or just feed back usability comments if that is helpful. Best wishes, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings(a)newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University ________________________________ From: tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org <tei-council-bounces(a)lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> Sent: 03 October 2017 14:34:44 To: tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org Subject: Re: [tei-council] RomaJS meetings We're meeting today at 2:30 pm EDT. On Oct 3, 2017 09:02, "Peter Stadler" <stadler(a)edirom.de> wrote: > I could only do Wed. 9–10, sorry. > > Cheers > Peter > > > Am 30.09.2017 um 01:34 schrieb Hugh Cayless <philomousos(a)gmail.com>: > > > > I can do Tuesday, either time. Wednesday 9-10 is possible, but I'll be > waiting on a plane, so will probably have to leave early. > > > > Hugh > > > > Sent from my phone. > > > >> On Sep 29, 2017, at 18:52, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Raff― I might be dispensable, but I’m glad to help if I can. I’m > only available next week on Tues. Oct. 3, but probably anytime between > 2-5pm, so long as it’s just an hour. My sense is that 3-4 pm is probably > best. > >> > >> ―Elisa > >> > >> -- > >> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD > >> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English > >> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division > >> 150 Finoli Drive > >> Greensburg, PA 15601 USA > >> E-mail: ebb8(a)pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> > >> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 5:11 PM, Raffaele Viglianti < > raffaeleviglianti(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I would like to set a 1-hour call for sometime next week to kick things > >>> off. I said Fridays would be good, but actually I'll be in > Charlottesville > >>> at the end of this week, so these are times that would work for me (all > >>> times are in EDT): > >>> > >>> Tuesday 3 Oct 9am - 10am > >>> Tuesday 3 Oct between 2pm - 5pm > >>> Wednesday 4 Oct between 9am - 12pm > >>> > >>> Please let me know if you're interest in attending, your time > preference, > >>> or if you're interested but cannot make those times. > >>> > >>> While it's true that you'll need to know some Javascript to help, > there is > >>> a fair bit of conceptual work that wouldn't require you to code. For > >>> example: what operations should one be able to do with elements? What > about > >>> defining their content model? What parts of the ODD (and its JSON > >>> counterpart) should be queried and how? Coming up with algorithms / > >>> strategies together can be as useful as writing the real thing. > >>> > >>> Also, based on my email from yesterday about p5subset.json, it's now > likely > >>> that there will be some XSLT work required as well, which most of you > can > >>> help with. We still need to discuss what changes are needed and why, > and > >>> I'm hoping we can focus on this during the call. > >>> > >>> If you want to try helping with JS coding and are not familiar with > >>> React/Redux, you could start form these short pieces to get a summary > idea: > >>> https://reactjs.org/tutorial/tutorial.html#what-is-react > >>> http://redux.js.org/docs/introduction/Motivation.html > >>> http://redux.js.org/docs/introduction/CoreConcepts.html > >>> > >>> Because development is underway, there is already a lot of boilerplate > code > >>> that can be copied to create new places where to hold data, new > operations, > >>> and new UI components. But you'll still need to figure out how to > connect > >>> everything together. I am happy to do code walkthroughs. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Raff > >>> -- > >>> tei-council mailing list > >>> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > >>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >>> > >>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > >> > >> -- > >> tei-council mailing list > >> tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > >> > >> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > > -- > > tei-council mailing list > > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > > > -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived > -- tei-council mailing list tei-council(a)lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived

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RomaJS meetings
by Raffaele Viglianti 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

Hello, I would like to set a 1-hour call for sometime next week to kick things off. I said Fridays would be good, but actually I'll be in Charlottesville at the end of this week, so these are times that would work for me (all times are in EDT): Tuesday 3 Oct 9am - 10am Tuesday 3 Oct between 2pm - 5pm Wednesday 4 Oct between 9am - 12pm Please let me know if you're interest in attending, your time preference, or if you're interested but cannot make those times. While it's true that you'll need to know some Javascript to help, there is a fair bit of conceptual work that wouldn't require you to code. For example: what operations should one be able to do with elements? What about defining their content model? What parts of the ODD (and its JSON counterpart) should be queried and how? Coming up with algorithms / strategies together can be as useful as writing the real thing. Also, based on my email from yesterday about p5subset.json, it's now likely that there will be some XSLT work required as well, which most of you can help with. We still need to discuss what changes are needed and why, and I'm hoping we can focus on this during the call. If you want to try helping with JS coding and are not familiar with React/Redux, you could start form these short pieces to get a summary idea: https://reactjs.org/tutorial/tutorial.html#what-is-react http://redux.js.org/docs/introduction/Motivation.html http://redux.js.org/docs/introduction/CoreConcepts.html Because development is underway, there is already a lot of boilerplate code that can be copied to create new places where to hold data, new operations, and new UI components. But you'll still need to figure out how to connect everything together. I am happy to do code walkthroughs. Thanks, Raff

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