The Never-ending 4.2 release!

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Nicholas Cole

11 Apr 2021 11 Apr '21

8:36 p.m.

Dear Council, Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday? We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing... Best wishes, Nicholas

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Bauman, Syd

11 Apr 11 Apr

8:51 p.m.

My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.) * Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.) ________________________________ Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday? We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

Martin Holmes

9:10 p.m.

If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason. I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time. Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there. Cheers, Martin On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

...

My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.)

* Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)

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Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday?

We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

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Nicholas Cole

9:20 p.m.

If this is the correct diagnosis, this is presumably something that we need to hack into the install script. Best wishes, N.

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On 11 Apr 2021, at 20:10, Martin Holmes wrote:

If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason.

I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

...
My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.) * Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday? We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing... _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Hugh Cayless

10:23 p.m.

I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed to re-implement that on the new one... Hugh On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes wrote:

...

If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason.

I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

...
My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.)

* Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)

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Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday?

We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

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Nicholas Cole

10:28 p.m.

I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow. Get Outlook for iOShttps://aka.ms/o0ukef ________________________________ From: Tei-council on behalf of Hugh Cayless Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM To: Martin Holmes Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release! I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed to re-implement that on the new one... Hugh On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote: If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason. I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time. Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there. Cheers, Martin On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

...

My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.)

* Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday?

We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

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Hugh Cayless

10:52 p.m.

Well, before you do that, maybe we should ask ourselves if we want a at kink or a redirect. Or whether, as I think Peter was arguing, we should consider refactoring the directory structure.

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On Apr 11, 2021, at 16:28, Nicholas Cole wrote:

I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow.

Get Outlook for iOS From: Tei-council on behalf of Hugh Cayless Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM To: Martin Holmes Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release!

I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed to re-implement that on the new one...

Hugh

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes wrote: If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason.

I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

...
My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.)

* Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday?

We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

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Peter Stadler

12 Apr 12 Apr

11:52 a.m.

Ok, the current issues with missing files under https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ is all about missing symlinks on the TEI server. I tried to explain that at last Council meeting and promised to fix it but didn’t get to it yet. Will do it now as proposed in my email from March 1. The release notes are ok and do not need modification because all the artefacts are put into the Vault. The stuff under „release“ is just a link to these files in the vault. And there is no need for a symlink *within* the Vault (from P5 to Stylesheets) – that’s always been a hack during (after) the last releases on the Huma-Num server. Best Peter

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Am 11.04.2021 um 22:52 schrieb Hugh Cayless :

Well, before you do that, maybe we should ask ourselves if we want a at kink or a redirect. Or whether, as I think Peter was arguing, we should consider refactoring the directory structure.

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On Apr 11, 2021, at 16:28, Nicholas Cole wrote:

I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow.

Get Outlook for iOS From: Tei-council on behalf of Hugh Cayless Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM To: Martin Holmes Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release!

I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed to re-implement that on the new one...

Hugh

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes wrote: If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason.

I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

...
My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.)

* Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday?

We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

_______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Peter Stadler

12:06 p.m.

Update: I just added the symlinks. Before, „release“ was a symlink (on the Huma-Num server) pointing at "Vault/P5/current“, now it has this structure: pstadler@cchum-kvm-dockerteic:/data2/web/tei-c.dhinstitute.ca/public_html$ ls -laR release/* release/doc: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-doc -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-exemplars -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-exemplars lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-xsl -> ../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/doc/tei-xsl release/xml: total 12 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 tei release/xml/tei: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 custom -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/custom lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 Exemplars -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Exemplars lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:58 odd -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/odd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 schema -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/schema lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Apr 12 11:58 stylesheet -> ../../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/xml/tei/stylesheet lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Apr 12 11:58 Test -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Test lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 xquery -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/xquery Could you please verify on the web at https://www.tei-c.org/release/ that all the necessary files and directories are there for the current release? Best Peter

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Am 12.04.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Peter Stadler :

Signierter PGP-Teil Ok, the current issues with missing files under https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ is all about missing symlinks on the TEI server. I tried to explain that at last Council meeting and promised to fix it but didn’t get to it yet. Will do it now as proposed in my email from March 1. The release notes are ok and do not need modification because all the artefacts are put into the Vault. The stuff under „release“ is just a link to these files in the vault. And there is no need for a symlink *within* the Vault (from P5 to Stylesheets) – that’s always been a hack during (after) the last releases on the Huma-Num server.

Best Peter

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Am 11.04.2021 um 22:52 schrieb Hugh Cayless :

Well, before you do that, maybe we should ask ourselves if we want a at kink or a redirect. Or whether, as I think Peter was arguing, we should consider refactoring the directory structure.

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On Apr 11, 2021, at 16:28, Nicholas Cole wrote:

I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow.

Get Outlook for iOS From: Tei-council on behalf of Hugh Cayless Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM To: Martin Holmes Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release!

I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed to re-implement that on the new one...

Hugh

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes wrote: If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason.

I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

...
My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.)

* Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday?

We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

_______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Martin Holmes

4:28 p.m.

Shouldn't all this stuff be part of the install script on the server? Cheers, Martin On 2021-04-12 3:06 a.m., Peter Stadler wrote:

...

Update: I just added the symlinks. Before, „release“ was a symlink (on the Huma-Num server) pointing at "Vault/P5/current“, now it has this structure:

pstadler@cchum-kvm-dockerteic:/data2/web/tei-c.dhinstitute.ca/public_html$ ls -laR release/* release/doc: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-doc -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-exemplars -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-exemplars lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-xsl -> ../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/doc/tei-xsl

release/xml: total 12 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 tei

release/xml/tei: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 custom -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/custom lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 Exemplars -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Exemplars lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:58 odd -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/odd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 schema -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/schema lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Apr 12 11:58 stylesheet -> ../../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/xml/tei/stylesheet lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Apr 12 11:58 Test -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Test lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 xquery -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/xquery

Could you please verify on the web at https://www.tei-c.org/release/ that all the necessary files and directories are there for the current release?

Best Peter

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Am 12.04.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Peter Stadler :

Signierter PGP-Teil Ok, the current issues with missing files under https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ is all about missing symlinks on the TEI server. I tried to explain that at last Council meeting and promised to fix it but didn’t get to it yet. Will do it now as proposed in my email from March 1. The release notes are ok and do not need modification because all the artefacts are put into the Vault. The stuff under „release“ is just a link to these files in the vault. And there is no need for a symlink *within* the Vault (from P5 to Stylesheets) – that’s always been a hack during (after) the last releases on the Huma-Num server.

Best Peter

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Am 11.04.2021 um 22:52 schrieb Hugh Cayless :

Well, before you do that, maybe we should ask ourselves if we want a at kink or a redirect. Or whether, as I think Peter was arguing, we should consider refactoring the directory structure.

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On Apr 11, 2021, at 16:28, Nicholas Cole wrote:

I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow.

Get Outlook for iOS From: Tei-council on behalf of Hugh Cayless Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM To: Martin Holmes Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release!

I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed to re-implement that on the new one...

Hugh

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes wrote: If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason.

I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

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My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.)

* Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)

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Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday?

We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

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Peter Stadler

5:03 p.m.

I’d say no because once it’s set up you don’t need to bother (i.e. there’s nothing to do during release). Best Peter

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Am 12.04.2021 um 16:28 schrieb Martin Holmes :

Shouldn't all this stuff be part of the install script on the server?

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-12 3:06 a.m., Peter Stadler wrote:

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Update: I just added the symlinks. Before, „release“ was a symlink (on the Huma-Num server) pointing at "Vault/P5/current“, now it has this structure: pstadler@cchum-kvm-dockerteic:/data2/web/tei-c.dhinstitute.ca/public_html$ ls -laR release/* release/doc: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-doc -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-exemplars -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-exemplars lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-xsl -> ../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/doc/tei-xsl release/xml: total 12 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 tei release/xml/tei: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 custom -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/custom lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 Exemplars -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Exemplars lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:58 odd -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/odd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 schema -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/schema lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Apr 12 11:58 stylesheet -> ../../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/xml/tei/stylesheet lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Apr 12 11:58 Test -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Test lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 xquery -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/xquery Could you please verify on the web at https://www.tei-c.org/release/ that all the necessary files and directories are there for the current release? Best Peter

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Am 12.04.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Peter Stadler :

Signierter PGP-Teil Ok, the current issues with missing files under https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ is all about missing symlinks on the TEI server. I tried to explain that at last Council meeting and promised to fix it but didn’t get to it yet. Will do it now as proposed in my email from March 1. The release notes are ok and do not need modification because all the artefacts are put into the Vault. The stuff under „release“ is just a link to these files in the vault. And there is no need for a symlink *within* the Vault (from P5 to Stylesheets) – that’s always been a hack during (after) the last releases on the Huma-Num server.

Best Peter

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Am 11.04.2021 um 22:52 schrieb Hugh Cayless :

Well, before you do that, maybe we should ask ourselves if we want a at kink or a redirect. Or whether, as I think Peter was arguing, we should consider refactoring the directory structure.

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On Apr 11, 2021, at 16:28, Nicholas Cole wrote:

I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow.

Get Outlook for iOS From: Tei-council on behalf of Hugh Cayless Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM To: Martin Holmes Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release!

I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed to re-implement that on the new one...

Hugh

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes wrote: If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason.

I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:

...
My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.)

* Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but that’s too late, anyway.) * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday?

We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing...

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Hugh Cayless

5:51 p.m.

While, for example, https://tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ works, https://tei-c.org/Vault/P5/4.2.2/xml/tei/stylesheet/ does not. Is that a problem? Hugh On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 11:03 AM Peter Stadler < pstadler@mail.uni-paderborn.de> wrote:

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I’d say no because once it’s set up you don’t need to bother (i.e. there’s nothing to do during release).

Best Peter

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Am 12.04.2021 um 16:28 schrieb Martin Holmes :

Shouldn't all this stuff be part of the install script on the server?

Cheers, Martin

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Update: I just added the symlinks. Before, „release“ was a symlink (on

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pstadler@cchum-kvm-dockerteic:/data2/web/ tei-c.dhinstitute.ca/public_html$ ls -laR release/* release/doc: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-doc -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-exemplars -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-exemplars lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-xsl -> ../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/doc/tei-xsl release/xml: total 12 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 tei release/xml/tei: total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 custom -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/custom lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 Exemplars -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Exemplars lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:58 odd -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/odd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 schema -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/schema lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Apr 12 11:58 stylesheet -> ../../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/xml/tei/stylesheet lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Apr 12 11:58 Test -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Test lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 xquery -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/xquery Could you please verify on the web at https://www.tei-c.org/release/

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Best Peter

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Am 12.04.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Peter Stadler <

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Signierter PGP-Teil Ok, the current issues with missing files under

https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ is all about missing symlinks on the TEI server. I tried to explain that at last Council meeting and promised to fix it but didn’t get to it yet. Will do it now as proposed in my email from March 1. The release notes are ok and do not need modification because all the artefacts are put into the Vault. The stuff under „release“ is just a link to these files in the vault. And there is no need for a symlink *within* the Vault (from P5 to Stylesheets) – that’s always been a hack during (after) the last releases on the Huma-Num server.

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Best Peter

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Am 11.04.2021 um 22:52 schrieb Hugh Cayless :

Well, before you do that, maybe we should ask ourselves if we want a

at kink or a redirect. Or whether, as I think Peter was arguing, we should consider refactoring the directory structure.

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On Apr 11, 2021, at 16:28, Nicholas Cole <

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I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow.

Get Outlook for iOS From: Tei-council on behalf

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Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM To: Martin Holmes Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release!

I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install

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On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes

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If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason.

I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c to be updated so that they're created at release time.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since it's out there.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote: > My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But > does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am > hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the > moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.) > > * Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z > to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but > that’s too late, anyway.) > * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and

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5:57 p.m.

It worked on recent releases: https://tei-c.org/Vault/P5/3.6.0/xml/tei/stylesheet/ so it's probably not good for it to stop working. But if you go back to earlier versions, it doesn't work either. Cheers, Martin On 2021-04-12 8:51 a.m., Hugh Cayless wrote:

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While, for example, https://tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ https://tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ works, https://tei-c.org/Vault/P5/4.2.2/xml/tei/stylesheet/ https://tei-c.org/Vault/P5/4.2.2/xml/tei/stylesheet/ does not. Is that a problem?

Hugh

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 11:03 AM Peter Stadler mailto:pstadler@mail.uni-paderborn.de> wrote:

I’d say no because once it’s set up you don’t need to bother (i.e. there’s nothing to do during release).

Best Peter

> Am 12.04.2021 um 16:28 schrieb Martin Holmes mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>: > > Shouldn't all this stuff be part of the install script on the server? > > Cheers, > Martin > > On 2021-04-12 3:06 a.m., Peter Stadler wrote: >> Update: I just added the symlinks. Before, „release“ was a symlink (on the Huma-Num server) pointing at "Vault/P5/current“, now it has this structure: >> pstadler@cchum-kvm-dockerteic:/data2/web/tei-c.dhinstitute.ca/public_html$ http://tei-c.dhinstitute.ca/public_html$ ls -laR release/* >> release/doc: >> total 8 >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . >> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-doc -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-exemplars -> ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-exemplars >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-xsl -> ../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/doc/tei-xsl >> release/xml: >> total 12 >> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 . >> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 tei >> release/xml/tei: >> total 8 >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 . >> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .. >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 custom -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/custom >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 Exemplars -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Exemplars >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:58 odd -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/odd >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 schema -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/schema >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Apr 12 11:58 stylesheet -> ../../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/xml/tei/stylesheet >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Apr 12 11:58 Test -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Test >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 xquery -> ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/xquery >> Could you please verify on the web at https://www.tei-c.org/release/ https://www.tei-c.org/release/ that all the necessary files and directories are there for the current release? >> Best >> Peter >>> Am 12.04.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Peter Stadler mailto:pstadler@mail.uni-paderborn.de>: >>> >>> Signierter PGP-Teil >>> Ok, the current issues with missing files under https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ is all about missing symlinks on the TEI server. I tried to explain that at last Council meeting and promised to fix it but didn’t get to it yet. Will do it now as proposed in my email from March 1. The release notes are ok and do not need modification because all the artefacts are put into the Vault. The stuff under „release“ is just a link to these files in the vault. And there is no need for a symlink *within* the Vault (from P5 to Stylesheets) – that’s always been a hack during (after) the last releases on the Huma-Num server. >>> >>> Best >>> Peter >>> >>>> Am 11.04.2021 um 22:52 schrieb Hugh Cayless mailto:philomousos@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> Well, before you do that, maybe we should ask ourselves if we want a at kink or a redirect. Or whether, as I think Peter was arguing, we should consider refactoring the directory structure. >>>> >>>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 16:28, Nicholas Cole mailto:nicholas.cole@history.ox.ac.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> Get Outlook for iOS >>>>> From: Tei-council mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Hugh Cayless mailto:philomousos@gmail.com> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM >>>>> To: Martin Holmes mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca> >>>>> Cc: TEI Council mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release! >>>>> >>>>> I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed to re-implement that on the new one... >>>>> >>>>> Hugh >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote: >>>>> If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new symlinks on >>>>> the server at release time a few times recently; it seems that either >>>>> something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was done, or >>>>> there has always been a requirement to create a number of symlinks, and >>>>> this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some reason. >>>>> >>>>> I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of >>>>> missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those for 4.2.2 >>>>> (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually there and >>>>> just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts on tei-c >>>>> to be updated so that they're created at release time. >>>>> >>>>> Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another release; >>>>> and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2 anyway, since >>>>> it's out there. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote: >>>>>> My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out, below. But >>>>>> does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the server? I am >>>>>> hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here. (At the >>>>>> moment I do not even have access to the server to look into this.) >>>>>> >>>>>> * Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again from 17:30Z >>>>>> to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or two, but >>>>>> that’s too late, anyway.) >>>>>> * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on duty, and thus >>>>>> become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.) >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena have noticed >>>>>> that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI. This is >>>>>> going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately, term doesn’t >>>>>> start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got plenty of >>>>>> time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on Monday or >>>>>> Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time, perhaps we >>>>>> could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3 release on Wednesday? >>>>>> >>>>>> We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of thing... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Tei-council mailing list >>>>>> Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org >>>>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>> Humanities Computing and Media Centre >>>>> University of Victoria >>>>> mholmes@uvic.ca mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Tei-council mailing list >>>>> Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org >>>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tei-council mailing list >>>> Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org >>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tei-council mailing list >> Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > -- > ------------------------------------- > Humanities Computing and Media Centre > University of Victoria > mholmes@uvic.ca mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca > _______________________________________________ > Tei-council mailing list > Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Lou Burnard

6:16 p.m.

It's certainly not good for it to stop working! While you're there, has the ability to do shortcuts like <elementRef key="q" source="tei:3.0.0"/> also gone AWOL? On 12/04/2021 16:57, Martin Holmes wrote:

...

It worked on recent releases:

https://tei-c.org/Vault/P5/3.6.0/xml/tei/stylesheet/

so it's probably not good for it to stop working. But if you go back to earlier versions, it doesn't work either.

Cheers, Martin

On 2021-04-12 8:51 a.m., Hugh Cayless wrote:

...
While, for example, https://tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ https://tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ works, https://tei-c.org/Vault/P5/4.2.2/xml/tei/stylesheet/ https://tei-c.org/Vault/P5/4.2.2/xml/tei/stylesheet/ does not. Is that a problem?

Hugh

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 11:03 AM Peter Stadler mailto:pstadler@mail.uni-paderborn.de> wrote:

    I’d say no because once it’s set up you don’t need to bother (i.e.     there’s nothing to do during release).

    Best     Peter

     > Am 12.04.2021 um 16:28 schrieb Martin Holmes mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>:      >      > Shouldn't all this stuff be part of the install script on the server?      >      > Cheers,      > Martin      >      > On 2021-04-12 3:06 a.m., Peter Stadler wrote:      >> Update: I just added the symlinks. Before, „release“ was a     symlink (on the Huma-Num server) pointing at "Vault/P5/current“, now     it has this structure:      >> pstadler@cchum-kvm-dockerteic:/data2/web/tei-c.dhinstitute.ca/public_html$     http://tei-c.dhinstitute.ca/public_html$ ls -laR release/*      >> release/doc:      >> total 8      >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .      >> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 ..      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-doc ->     ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-doc      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-p5-exemplars ->     ../../Vault/P5/current/doc/tei-p5-exemplars      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 tei-xsl ->     ../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/doc/tei-xsl      >> release/xml:      >> total 12      >> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 .      >> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 ..      >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 tei      >> release/xml/tei:      >> total 8      >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:58 .      >> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 12 11:57 ..      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 custom ->     ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/custom      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 12 11:57 Exemplars ->     ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Exemplars      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Apr 12 11:58 odd ->     ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/odd      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 schema ->     ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/schema      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Apr 12 11:58 stylesheet ->     ../../../Vault/Stylesheets/current/xml/tei/stylesheet      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Apr 12 11:58 Test ->     ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/Test      >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 12 11:58 xquery ->     ../../../Vault/P5/current/xml/tei/xquery      >> Could you please verify on the web at     https://www.tei-c.org/release/ https://www.tei-c.org/release/ that     all the necessary files and directories are there for the current     release?      >> Best      >> Peter      >>> Am 12.04.2021 um 11:52 schrieb Peter Stadler     mailto:pstadler@mail.uni-paderborn.de>:      >>>      >>> Signierter PGP-Teil      >>> Ok, the current issues with missing files under     https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/     https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/ is all about     missing symlinks on the TEI server. I tried to explain that at last     Council meeting and promised to fix it but didn’t get to it yet.     Will do it now as proposed in my email from March 1. The release     notes are ok and do not need modification because all the artefacts     are put into the Vault. The stuff under „release“ is just a link to     these files in the vault. And there is no need for a symlink     *within* the Vault (from P5 to Stylesheets) – that’s always been a     hack during (after) the last releases on the Huma-Num server.      >>>      >>> Best      >>> Peter      >>>      >>>> Am 11.04.2021 um 22:52 schrieb Hugh Cayless     mailto:philomousos@gmail.com>:      >>>>      >>>> Well, before you do that, maybe we should ask ourselves if we     want a at kink or a redirect. Or whether, as I think Peter was     arguing, we should consider refactoring the directory structure.      >>>>      >>>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 16:28, Nicholas Cole     mailto:nicholas.cole@history.ox.ac.uk> wrote:      >>>>>      >>>>>      >>>>> I’ll have a look at the install script tomorrow.      >>>>>      >>>>> Get Outlook for iOS      >>>>> From: Tei-council mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Hugh     Cayless mailto:philomousos@gmail.com>      >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:23:25 PM      >>>>> To: Martin Holmes mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>      >>>>> Cc: TEI Council mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org>      >>>>> Subject: Re: [Tei-council] The Never-ending 4.2 release!      >>>>>      >>>>> I logged in (as the TEI user) and added the symlink a few     minutes ago, so that should be working ok now (I've checked some of     the links Helena posted and they function). I'm at a loss as to why     the install script doesn't take care of this if it's a requirement     though. We never used to have to do it. I wonder whether there was a     web server redirect set up for it on the old server, and we failed     to re-implement that on the new one...      >>>>>      >>>>> Hugh      >>>>>      >>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Martin Holmes     mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote:      >>>>> If I remember correctly, Peter and/or Hugh have created new     symlinks on      >>>>> the server at release time a few times recently; it seems     that either      >>>>> something changed when the server migration to HumaNum was     done, or      >>>>> there has always been a requirement to create a number of     symlinks, and      >>>>> this never made it into TCW22 or the release scripts for some     reason.      >>>>>      >>>>> I think the most important thing is first to list the full set of      >>>>> missing items or links; then for someone to quick-fix those     for 4.2.2      >>>>> (without doing a new release, assuming the stuff is actually     there and      >>>>> just in the wrong place); and finally for the release scripts     on tei-c      >>>>> to be updated so that they're created at release time.      >>>>>      >>>>> Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe we need another     release;      >>>>> and even if we did, we'd have to fix the problems in 4.2.2     anyway, since      >>>>> it's out there.      >>>>>      >>>>> Cheers,      >>>>> Martin      >>>>>      >>>>> On 2021-04-11 11:51 a.m., Bauman, Syd wrote:      >>>>>> My availability (as it currently stands) is sketched out,     below. But      >>>>>> does this require a release, or just a symlink fix on the     server? I am      >>>>>> hoping Peter, Hugh, Martina, or Martin can chime in, here.     (At the      >>>>>> moment I do not even have access to the server to look into     this.)      >>>>>>      >>>>>> * Mon 12 Apr: Meetings from 13:30Z to ~15:45Z, and again     from 17:30Z      >>>>>> to 18:54Z. (And then again from 23:00Z for an hour or     two, but      >>>>>> that’s too late, anyway.)      >>>>>> * Wed 14 Apr: Only meeting is 16:15Z to 17:00Z. (Go on     duty, and thus      >>>>>> become unlreliable, at 21:00Z.)      >>>>>>      >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------      >>>>>>      >>>>>> Still with my release-manager hat on (!), Syd and Helena     have noticed      >>>>>> that a folder has been missing from recent releases of TEI.     This is      >>>>>> going to need another point release to fix. Fortunately,     term doesn’t      >>>>>> start again here for another two weeks, so I’ve actually got     plenty of      >>>>>> time to work on this in the coming days. Would some time on     Monday or      >>>>>> Wednesday suit people, for example? Syd, if you have time,     perhaps we      >>>>>> could hack away at a fix on Monday and then do the .3     release on Wednesday?      >>>>>>      >>>>>> We should probably also write a test to catch this kind of     thing...      >>>>>>      >>>>>>      >>>>>> _______________________________________________      >>>>>> Tei-council mailing list      >>>>>> Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org      >>>>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council      >>>>>>      >>>>>      >>>>> --      >>>>> -------------------------------------      >>>>> Humanities Computing and Media Centre      >>>>> University of Victoria      >>>>> mholmes@uvic.ca mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca      >>>>> _______________________________________________      >>>>> Tei-council mailing list      >>>>> Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org      >>>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council      >>>> _______________________________________________      >>>> Tei-council mailing list      >>>> Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org      >>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council      >>>      >>>      >>>      >> _______________________________________________      >> Tei-council mailing list      >> Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org      >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council      >      > --      > -------------------------------------      > Humanities Computing and Media Centre      > University of Victoria      > mholmes@uvic.ca mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca      > _______________________________________________      > Tei-council mailing list      > Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org mailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org      > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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