Re: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated
That sounds reasonable (though the argument that John Unsworth originally made for paying our way by using commercially purchased systems, and not relying on handouts dependent on particular projects, institutions, and individuals, also sounds reasonable).
I'd humbly suggest, if they are willing, that the maintainers of parts of our infrastructure like those hosting Jenkins, OxGarage, and developer of new bit of infrastructure RomaJS should all be part of that larger group. (But understand that they're busy.)
Many thanks,
James
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Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities
School of English, Newcastle University
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From: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at)
On Jan 31, 2019, at 06:28, Peter Stadler
mailto:stadler@edirom.de> wrote: My ultimate goal would be for the tei user to be member of the Unix group ‚docker‘ — that would allow us to restart those containers. We’ll have to sort that out with the new ADHO sysadmin who will hopefully be installed in the near future.
Another option would be to move these services into some AWS or Azure (or whatheveyou) cloud. Kathryn was suggesting (in her recent mail to TEI-L) that "we have already begun to make significant changes to the TEI-C infrastructure in response to last summer’s server fail. Thanks to outgoing Board member Laurent Romary, our webmaster Luis Meneses is working with HumaNum to establish a more reliable foundation for our data.“ — I don’t know what that means?!? Has anyone some insights?
Best Peter
Am 31.01.2019 um 12:22 schrieb James Cummings
mailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk>: That is good! Is there a way to have it so that the tei user on tei-c.org has the ability to restart these services?
Many thanks, James
-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.ukmailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University From: Tei-council
mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Peter Stadler mailto:stadler@edirom.de> Sent: 31 January 2019 09:28:56 To: TEI Council Cc: Martin Holmes Subject: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated Dear all,
I just had an excellent admin session with Christof Schöch (many thanks!) and we managed to restart the Roma and OxGarage services. Both should now run with the current Stylesheets and TEI sources.
So, OxGarage, Roma, and the Debian packages should be updated to the current release (please test!), let alone the Oxygen plugin still needs some attention.
Best Peter
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I’d be happy to take part in that (larger) infrastructure group. Best Peter
Am 01.02.2019 um 11:03 schrieb James Cummings
: That sounds reasonable (though the argument that John Unsworth originally made for paying our way by using commercially purchased systems, and not relying on handouts dependent on particular projects, institutions, and individuals, also sounds reasonable).
I'd humbly suggest, if they are willing, that the maintainers of parts of our infrastructure like those hosting Jenkins, OxGarage, and developer of new bit of infrastructure RomaJS should all be part of that larger group. (But understand that they're busy.)
Many thanks, James
-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University From: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at)
Sent: 01 February 2019 06:39 To: James Cummings; TEI Council Cc: Martin Holmes Subject: AW: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated Hi,
The reasoning behind moving the servers to HumaNum is that the current ADHO servers are rented from a commercial supplier whereas the HumaNum servers are actually maintained by a university based DH institution … I think.
I would suggest that we decide on who of us should get involved with this process on behalf of the Council (checking requirements, etc.). Then I would write to the Board-Council list to suggest a dedicated call with Laurent, Luis and whoever will represent the Council and the Board. Meanwhile, I will ask Luis how far the process already is.
Mahna Mahna, Martina
Von: Tei-council
Im Auftrag von James Cummings Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2019 16:15 An: TEI Council Cc: Martin Holmes Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated Out of curiosity, what is the benefit of having the hosting with HumaNum[1] as opposed to ADHO? Doesn't this shift our eggs out of one basket and into another? Or is it cloud-based hosting with redundancy or something? Not arguing against it, just curious as to what it gets us. (It might be better, for example, to have a mirrored site or geographically dispersed copies for redundancy and load-balancing, but still seems like overkill to me.)
Many thanks, James [1] Whenever I say this in my head I hear the muppets version of Mahna Mahna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah_N%C3%A0_Mah_N%C3%A0
-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University From: Tei-council
on behalf of Hugh Cayless Sent: 31 January 2019 12:21:26 To: Peter Stadler Cc: TEI Council; Martin Holmes Subject: Re: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated There’s an (exploratory I think at this stage) effort underway to move the website hosting to HumaNum. I’m not sure what the implications are for our other services. Probably we should schedule a meeting with the interested parties before things progress much further. That message should come from Martina as Chair I think.
On Jan 31, 2019, at 06:28, Peter Stadler
wrote: My ultimate goal would be for the tei user to be member of the Unix group ‚docker‘ — that would allow us to restart those containers. We’ll have to sort that out with the new ADHO sysadmin who will hopefully be installed in the near future.
Another option would be to move these services into some AWS or Azure (or whatheveyou) cloud. Kathryn was suggesting (in her recent mail to TEI-L) that "we have already begun to make significant changes to the TEI-C infrastructure in response to last summer’s server fail. Thanks to outgoing Board member Laurent Romary, our webmaster Luis Meneses is working with HumaNum to establish a more reliable foundation for our data.“ — I don’t know what that means?!? Has anyone some insights?
Best Peter
Am 31.01.2019 um 12:22 schrieb James Cummings
: That is good! Is there a way to have it so that the tei user on tei-c.org has the ability to restart these services?
Many thanks, James
-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University From: Tei-council
on behalf of Peter Stadler Sent: 31 January 2019 09:28:56 To: TEI Council Cc: Martin Holmes Subject: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated Dear all,
I just had an excellent admin session with Christof Schöch (many thanks!) and we managed to restart the Roma and OxGarage services. Both should now run with the current Stylesheets and TEI sources.
So, OxGarage, Roma, and the Debian packages should be updated to the current release (please test!), let alone the Oxygen plugin still needs some attention.
Best Peter
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Happy to join a call/meeting to talk about this.
Raff
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 7:36 AM Peter Stadler I’d be happy to take part in that (larger) infrastructure group. Best
Peter Am 01.02.2019 um 11:03 schrieb James Cummings <
James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk>: That sounds reasonable (though the argument that John Unsworth
originally made for paying our way by using commercially purchased systems,
and not relying on handouts dependent on particular projects, institutions,
and individuals, also sounds reasonable). I'd humbly suggest, if they are willing, that the maintainers of parts
of our infrastructure like those hosting Jenkins, OxGarage, and developer
of new bit of infrastructure RomaJS should all be part of that larger
group. (But understand that they're busy.) Many thanks,
James --
Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk
Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities
School of English, Newcastle University
From: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) <
martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>
Sent: 01 February 2019 06:39
To: James Cummings; TEI Council
Cc: Martin Holmes
Subject: AW: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated Hi, The reasoning behind moving the servers to HumaNum is that the current
ADHO servers are rented from a commercial supplier whereas the HumaNum
servers are actually maintained by a university based DH institution … I
think. I would suggest that we decide on who of us should get involved with
this process on behalf of the Council (checking requirements, etc.). Then I
would write to the Board-Council list to suggest a dedicated call with
Laurent, Luis and whoever will represent the Council and the Board.
Meanwhile, I will ask Luis how far the process already is. Mahna Mahna,
Martina Von: Tei-council Out of curiosity, what is the benefit of having the hosting with
HumaNum[1] as opposed to ADHO? Doesn't this shift our eggs out of one
basket and into another? Or is it cloud-based hosting with redundancy or
something? Not arguing against it, just curious as to what it gets us. (It
might be better, for example, to have a mirrored site or geographically
dispersed copies for redundancy and load-balancing, but still seems like
overkill to me.) Many thanks,
James
[1] Whenever I say this in my head I hear the muppets version of Mahna
Mahna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah_N%C3%A0_Mah_N%C3%A0 --
Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk
Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities
School of English, Newcastle University
From: Tei-council There’s an (exploratory I think at this stage) effort underway to move
the website hosting to HumaNum. I’m not sure what the implications are for
our other services. Probably we should schedule a meeting with the
interested parties before things progress much further. That message should
come from Martina as Chair I think. On Jan 31, 2019, at 06:28, Peter Stadler My ultimate goal would be for the tei user to be member of the Unix
group ‚docker‘ — that would allow us to restart those containers. We’ll
have to sort that out with the new ADHO sysadmin who will hopefully be
installed in the near future. Another option would be to move these services into some AWS or Azure
(or whatheveyou) cloud. Kathryn was suggesting (in her recent mail to
TEI-L) that "we have already begun to make significant changes to the
TEI-C infrastructure in response to last summer’s server fail. Thanks to
outgoing Board member Laurent Romary, our webmaster Luis Meneses is working
with HumaNum to establish a more reliable foundation for our data.“ — I
don’t know what that means?!? Has anyone some insights? Best
Peter Am 31.01.2019 um 12:22 schrieb James Cummings <
James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk>: That is good! Is there a way to have it so that the tei user on
tei-c.org has the ability to restart these services? Many thanks,
James --
Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk
Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities
School of English, Newcastle University
From: Tei-council Dear all, I just had an excellent admin session with Christof Schöch (many
thanks!) and we managed to restart the Roma and OxGarage services. Both
should now run with the current Stylesheets and TEI sources. So, OxGarage, Roma, and the Debian packages should be updated to the
current release (please test!), let alone the Oxygen plugin still needs
some attention. Best
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Me too. On 2019-02-01 4:35 a.m., Peter Stadler wrote:
I’d be happy to take part in that (larger) infrastructure group.
Best Peter
Am 01.02.2019 um 11:03 schrieb James Cummings
: That sounds reasonable (though the argument that John Unsworth originally made for paying our way by using commercially purchased systems, and not relying on handouts dependent on particular projects, institutions, and individuals, also sounds reasonable).
I'd humbly suggest, if they are willing, that the maintainers of parts of our infrastructure like those hosting Jenkins, OxGarage, and developer of new bit of infrastructure RomaJS should all be part of that larger group. (But understand that they're busy.)
Many thanks, James
-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University From: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at)
Sent: 01 February 2019 06:39 To: James Cummings; TEI Council Cc: Martin Holmes Subject: AW: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated Hi,
The reasoning behind moving the servers to HumaNum is that the current ADHO servers are rented from a commercial supplier whereas the HumaNum servers are actually maintained by a university based DH institution … I think.
I would suggest that we decide on who of us should get involved with this process on behalf of the Council (checking requirements, etc.). Then I would write to the Board-Council list to suggest a dedicated call with Laurent, Luis and whoever will represent the Council and the Board. Meanwhile, I will ask Luis how far the process already is.
Mahna Mahna, Martina
Von: Tei-council
Im Auftrag von James Cummings Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2019 16:15 An: TEI Council Cc: Martin Holmes Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated Out of curiosity, what is the benefit of having the hosting with HumaNum[1] as opposed to ADHO? Doesn't this shift our eggs out of one basket and into another? Or is it cloud-based hosting with redundancy or something? Not arguing against it, just curious as to what it gets us. (It might be better, for example, to have a mirrored site or geographically dispersed copies for redundancy and load-balancing, but still seems like overkill to me.)
Many thanks, James [1] Whenever I say this in my head I hear the muppets version of Mahna Mahna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah_N%C3%A0_Mah_N%C3%A0
-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University From: Tei-council
on behalf of Hugh Cayless Sent: 31 January 2019 12:21:26 To: Peter Stadler Cc: TEI Council; Martin Holmes Subject: Re: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated There’s an (exploratory I think at this stage) effort underway to move the website hosting to HumaNum. I’m not sure what the implications are for our other services. Probably we should schedule a meeting with the interested parties before things progress much further. That message should come from Martina as Chair I think.
On Jan 31, 2019, at 06:28, Peter Stadler
wrote: My ultimate goal would be for the tei user to be member of the Unix group ‚docker‘ — that would allow us to restart those containers. We’ll have to sort that out with the new ADHO sysadmin who will hopefully be installed in the near future.
Another option would be to move these services into some AWS or Azure (or whatheveyou) cloud. Kathryn was suggesting (in her recent mail to TEI-L) that "we have already begun to make significant changes to the TEI-C infrastructure in response to last summer’s server fail. Thanks to outgoing Board member Laurent Romary, our webmaster Luis Meneses is working with HumaNum to establish a more reliable foundation for our data.“ — I don’t know what that means?!? Has anyone some insights?
Best Peter
Am 31.01.2019 um 12:22 schrieb James Cummings
: That is good! Is there a way to have it so that the tei user on tei-c.org has the ability to restart these services?
Many thanks, James
-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University From: Tei-council
on behalf of Peter Stadler Sent: 31 January 2019 09:28:56 To: TEI Council Cc: Martin Holmes Subject: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated Dear all,
I just had an excellent admin session with Christof Schöch (many thanks!) and we managed to restart the Roma and OxGarage services. Both should now run with the current Stylesheets and TEI sources.
So, OxGarage, Roma, and the Debian packages should be updated to the current release (please test!), let alone the Oxygen plugin still needs some attention.
Best Peter
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Peter Stadler
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