That sounds reasonable (though the argument that John Unsworth originally made for paying our way by using commercially purchased systems, and not relying on handouts dependent on particular projects, institutions, and individuals, also sounds reasonable). 

I'd humbly suggest, if they are willing, that the maintainers of parts of our infrastructure like those hosting Jenkins, OxGarage, and developer of new bit of infrastructure RomaJS should all be part of that larger group. (But understand that they're busy.)

Many thanks,

James 


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Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk
Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities

School of English, Newcastle University

From: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) <martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>
Sent: 01 February 2019 06:39
To: James Cummings; TEI Council
Cc: Martin Holmes
Subject: AW: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated
 

Hi,

 

The reasoning behind moving the servers to HumaNum is that the current ADHO servers are rented from a commercial supplier whereas the HumaNum servers are actually maintained by a university based DH institution … I think.

 

I would suggest that we decide on who of us should get involved with this process on behalf of the Council (checking requirements, etc.). Then I would write to the Board-Council list to suggest a dedicated call with Laurent, Luis and whoever will represent the Council and the Board. Meanwhile, I will ask Luis how far the process already is.

 

Mahna Mahna,

Martina    

 

 

 

Von: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> Im Auftrag von James Cummings
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2019 16:15
An: TEI Council <tei-council@lists.tei-c.org>
Cc: Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca>
Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated

 

Out of curiosity, what is the benefit of having the hosting with HumaNum[1] as opposed to ADHO? Doesn't this shift our eggs out of one basket and into another?  Or is it cloud-based hosting with redundancy or something? Not arguing against it, just curious as to what it gets us. (It might be better, for example, to have a mirrored site or geographically dispersed copies for redundancy and load-balancing, but still seems like overkill to me.) 

 

Many thanks,

James 

[1] Whenever I say this in my head I hear the muppets version of Mahna Mahna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah_N%C3%A0_Mah_N%C3%A0

 

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Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk
Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities

School of English, Newcastle University

From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Hugh Cayless <philomousos@gmail.com>
Sent: 31 January 2019 12:21:26
To: Peter Stadler
Cc: TEI Council; Martin Holmes
Subject: Re: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated

 

There’s an (exploratory I think at this stage) effort underway to move the website hosting to HumaNum. I’m not sure what the implications are for our other services. Probably we should schedule a meeting with the interested parties before things progress much further. That message should come from Martina as Chair I think.

> On Jan 31, 2019, at 06:28, Peter Stadler <stadler@edirom.de> wrote:
>
> My ultimate goal would be for the tei user to be member of the Unix group ‚docker‘ — that would allow us to restart those containers. We’ll have to sort that out with the new ADHO sysadmin who will hopefully be installed in the near future.
>
> Another option would be to move these services into some AWS or Azure (or whatheveyou) cloud. Kathryn was suggesting (in her recent mail to TEI-L) that  "we have already begun to make significant changes to the TEI-C infrastructure in response to last summer’s server fail. Thanks to outgoing Board member Laurent Romary, our webmaster Luis Meneses is working with HumaNum to establish a more reliable foundation for our data.“ — I don’t know what that means?!? Has anyone some insights?
>
> Best
> Peter
>
>> Am 31.01.2019 um 12:22 schrieb James Cummings <James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk>:
>>
>>
>> That is good! Is there a way to have it so that the tei user on tei-c.org has the ability to restart these services?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> James
>>
>> --
>> Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk
>> Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities
>> School of English, Newcastle University
>> From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Peter Stadler <stadler@edirom.de>
>> Sent: 31 January 2019 09:28:56
>> To: TEI Council
>> Cc: Martin Holmes
>> Subject: [Tei-council] OxGarage and Roma updated
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I just had an excellent admin session with Christof Schöch (many thanks!) and we managed to restart the Roma and OxGarage services. Both should now run with the current Stylesheets and TEI sources.
>>
>> So, OxGarage, Roma, and the Debian packages should be updated to the current release (please test!), let alone the Oxygen plugin still needs some attention.
>>
>> Best
>> Peter
>
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