Duplicate entries in biblio?
Hi all, We have the two entries below in the Glines bibliography. They seem to me to be for the same book, although one is for an older version, and is listed under a different main author. To complicate things further, the first has a URL that generates a 301 ("Moved permanently") to the URL provided by the other. Neither of them appear to be referenced anywhere in the Guidelines prose. I propose to delete the older one and leave only the newer, fixing the URL in the process. Any objections? <biblStruct xml:id="Burnardetaleds2006"> <monogr> <editor> <forename>Lou</forename> <surname>Burnard</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Katherine</forename> <forename>O'Brien</forename> <surname>O'Keefe</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Unsworth</surname> </editor> <title level="m">Electronic Textual Editing</title> <ptr target="http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/ETE/"/> <imprint> <pubPlace>New York</pubPlace> <publisher>Modern Languages Association</publisher> <date>2006</date> </imprint> </monogr> </biblStruct> <biblStruct xml:id="Unsworthetaleds2004"> <monogr> <editor> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Unsworth</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Katherine</forename> <forename>O'Brien</forename> <surname>O'Keeffe</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Lou</forename> <surname>Burnard</surname> </editor> <title level="m">Electronic Textual Editing</title> <ptr target="http://www.tei-c.org/About/Archive_new/ETE/"/> <imprint> <publisher>TEI Consortium</publisher> <date>2004</date> </imprint> </monogr> <!--note>last accessed August 12, 2007</note--> </biblStruct> Cheers, Martin
Actually, it is a little more complicated than that. The first is a reference to the published book (note the imprint and publisher). It includes a link to the XML source of the book which, at that time, was stored on the TEI website. Then that "digital preprint" moved elsewhere on the site, and someone else created the second entry for it, indicating the TEI as publisher, since it was on the TEI website. I can't explain why the editors (not authors) are given in a different order though. They should of course be ordered alphabetically. I think it would be better to keep the first one, simply removing its <ptr/> which is now useless. Or I suppose you could replace it with a <relatedItem> containing the right URL. On 11/09/15 17:24, Martin Holmes wrote:
Hi all,
We have the two entries below in the Glines bibliography. They seem to me to be for the same book, although one is for an older version, and is listed under a different main author. To complicate things further, the first has a URL that generates a 301 ("Moved permanently") to the URL provided by the other. Neither of them appear to be referenced anywhere in the Guidelines prose.
I propose to delete the older one and leave only the newer, fixing the URL in the process. Any objections?
<biblStruct xml:id="Burnardetaleds2006"> <monogr> <editor> <forename>Lou</forename> <surname>Burnard</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Katherine</forename> <forename>O'Brien</forename> <surname>O'Keefe</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Unsworth</surname> </editor> <title level="m">Electronic Textual Editing</title> <ptr target="http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/ETE/"/> <imprint> <pubPlace>New York</pubPlace> <publisher>Modern Languages Association</publisher> <date>2006</date> </imprint> </monogr> </biblStruct>
<biblStruct xml:id="Unsworthetaleds2004"> <monogr> <editor> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Unsworth</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Katherine</forename> <forename>O'Brien</forename> <surname>O'Keeffe</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Lou</forename> <surname>Burnard</surname> </editor> <title level="m">Electronic Textual Editing</title> <ptr target="http://www.tei-c.org/About/Archive_new/ETE/"/> <imprint> <publisher>TEI Consortium</publisher> <date>2004</date> </imprint> </monogr> <!--note>last accessed August 12, 2007</note--> </biblStruct>
Cheers, Martin
I agree we should keep only the first, but the URL (after redirect) is still OK: http://www.tei-c.org/About/Archive_new/ETE/ since it goes to a page which points to the MLA and Amazon pages for the book, and also has a link to the XML preview. Since that page has those links, I don't think we need to get clever with a <relatedItem>. There are no other uses of that element in our bibliography, and I'm not quite sure what the Guidelines processing would do with it. :-) Cheers, Martin On 15-09-11 09:49 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
Actually, it is a little more complicated than that. The first is a reference to the published book (note the imprint and publisher). It includes a link to the XML source of the book which, at that time, was stored on the TEI website. Then that "digital preprint" moved elsewhere on the site, and someone else created the second entry for it, indicating the TEI as publisher, since it was on the TEI website.
I can't explain why the editors (not authors) are given in a different order though. They should of course be ordered alphabetically.
I think it would be better to keep the first one, simply removing its <ptr/> which is now useless. Or I suppose you could replace it with a <relatedItem> containing the right URL.
On 11/09/15 17:24, Martin Holmes wrote:
Hi all,
We have the two entries below in the Glines bibliography. They seem to me to be for the same book, although one is for an older version, and is listed under a different main author. To complicate things further, the first has a URL that generates a 301 ("Moved permanently") to the URL provided by the other. Neither of them appear to be referenced anywhere in the Guidelines prose.
I propose to delete the older one and leave only the newer, fixing the URL in the process. Any objections?
<biblStruct xml:id="Burnardetaleds2006"> <monogr> <editor> <forename>Lou</forename> <surname>Burnard</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Katherine</forename> <forename>O'Brien</forename> <surname>O'Keefe</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Unsworth</surname> </editor> <title level="m">Electronic Textual Editing</title> <ptr target="http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/ETE/"/> <imprint> <pubPlace>New York</pubPlace> <publisher>Modern Languages Association</publisher> <date>2006</date> </imprint> </monogr> </biblStruct>
<biblStruct xml:id="Unsworthetaleds2004"> <monogr> <editor> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Unsworth</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Katherine</forename> <forename>O'Brien</forename> <surname>O'Keeffe</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Lou</forename> <surname>Burnard</surname> </editor> <title level="m">Electronic Textual Editing</title> <ptr target="http://www.tei-c.org/About/Archive_new/ETE/"/> <imprint> <publisher>TEI Consortium</publisher> <date>2004</date> </imprint> </monogr> <!--note>last accessed August 12, 2007</note--> </biblStruct>
Cheers, Martin
I imagine the authors were listed in a different order when citing the digital preprint because it wasn't yet clear what order they'd appear on the title page of the published version. Indeed, Unsworth is also listed first at http://www.tei-c.org/About/Archive_new/ETE/ . We don't know for sure what might have changed between the preview version and the final version, but if the citation was to something general that is surely the same in the two, I think it's safe to update the citation. Just let me know if I should reorder the authors as listed at http://www.tei-c.org/About/Archive_new/ETE/ . I'm traveling at the moment but can get to it in a few days. Kevin On 9/11/15 12:02 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:
I agree we should keep only the first, but the URL (after redirect) is still OK:
http://www.tei-c.org/About/Archive_new/ETE/
since it goes to a page which points to the MLA and Amazon pages for the book, and also has a link to the XML preview. Since that page has those links, I don't think we need to get clever with a <relatedItem>. There are no other uses of that element in our bibliography, and I'm not quite sure what the Guidelines processing would do with it. :-)
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-11 09:49 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
Actually, it is a little more complicated than that. The first is a reference to the published book (note the imprint and publisher). It includes a link to the XML source of the book which, at that time, was stored on the TEI website. Then that "digital preprint" moved elsewhere on the site, and someone else created the second entry for it, indicating the TEI as publisher, since it was on the TEI website.
I can't explain why the editors (not authors) are given in a different order though. They should of course be ordered alphabetically.
I think it would be better to keep the first one, simply removing its <ptr/> which is now useless. Or I suppose you could replace it with a <relatedItem> containing the right URL.
On 11/09/15 17:24, Martin Holmes wrote:
Hi all,
We have the two entries below in the Glines bibliography. They seem to me to be for the same book, although one is for an older version, and is listed under a different main author. To complicate things further, the first has a URL that generates a 301 ("Moved permanently") to the URL provided by the other. Neither of them appear to be referenced anywhere in the Guidelines prose.
I propose to delete the older one and leave only the newer, fixing the URL in the process. Any objections?
<biblStruct xml:id="Burnardetaleds2006"> <monogr> <editor> <forename>Lou</forename> <surname>Burnard</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Katherine</forename> <forename>O'Brien</forename> <surname>O'Keefe</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Unsworth</surname> </editor> <title level="m">Electronic Textual Editing</title> <ptr target="http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/ETE/"/> <imprint> <pubPlace>New York</pubPlace> <publisher>Modern Languages Association</publisher> <date>2006</date> </imprint> </monogr> </biblStruct>
<biblStruct xml:id="Unsworthetaleds2004"> <monogr> <editor> <forename>John</forename> <surname>Unsworth</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Katherine</forename> <forename>O'Brien</forename> <surname>O'Keeffe</surname> </editor> <editor> <forename>Lou</forename> <surname>Burnard</surname> </editor> <title level="m">Electronic Textual Editing</title> <ptr target="http://www.tei-c.org/About/Archive_new/ETE/"/> <imprint> <publisher>TEI Consortium</publisher> <date>2004</date> </imprint> </monogr> <!--note>last accessed August 12, 2007</note--> </biblStruct>
Cheers, Martin
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