Dear all, Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning. Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem. Thanks, Hugh
ok for me I am quite now booking flight and accomodation: I found a nice apartment with airbnb just behind the university at 4€ per night... at worst we could meet there there is WIFI and a nice living room :-))) f 2015-09-08 14:51 GMT+02:00 Hugh Cayless <philomousos@gmail.com>:
Dear all,
Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning.
Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem.
Thanks, Hugh
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No objection here. (From my point of view an interupted meeting like that may or may not cause a problem, the only way to find out is to try it :-)
Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning.
Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem.
That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may already be there. Cheers, Martin On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Dear all,
Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning.
Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem.
Thanks, Hugh
How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the announcement of the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot stay open until shortly before?) -James On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote:
That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may already be there.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Dear all,
Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning.
Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem.
Thanks, Hugh
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I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. Candidates, then? Cheers, Martin On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote:
How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the announcement of the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot stay open until shortly before?)
-James
On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote:
That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may already be there.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Dear all,
Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning.
Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem.
Thanks, Hugh
There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet. I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing more voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the hotel) and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be able to do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various things to get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for participation. What do you all think? On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote:
I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. Candidates, then?
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote:
How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the announcement of the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot stay open until shortly before?)
-James
On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote:
That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may already be there.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Dear all,
Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning.
Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem.
Thanks, Hugh
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Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior to this where others were invited in. If election results are not announced until business meeting, then invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. (Potentially need a lot more space) If election results are announced, then invite all successful candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much more space.) Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in what we do. Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections. -JAmes On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote:
There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet.
I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing more voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the hotel) and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be able to do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various things to get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for participation.
What do you all think?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote:
I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. Candidates, then?
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote:
How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the announcement of the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot stay open until shortly before?)
-James
On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote:
That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may already be there.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Dear all,
Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning.
Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem.
Thanks, Hugh
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I think we shouldnt be worrying about the elections too much. An open session of the council is a great idea in any case. This would be the weds morning before the keynote I am assuming? As we will have been meeting for two days already, we should have got through loads of tickets, and also recovered from that strange punch-drunk craziness which tends to appear on the third day (which I assume we are free to spend doing nothing). Which gives us the opportunity to do something a bit different, like present how tickets are handled, discuss recent major changes, etc. I'd be happy to rabbit on about pure ODD again, if that would be useful. On 08/09/15 18:12, James Cummings wrote:
Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior to this where others were invited in.
If election results are not announced until business meeting, then invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. (Potentially need a lot more space)
If election results are announced, then invite all successful candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much more space.)
Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in what we do.
Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections.
-JAmes
On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote:
There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet.
I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing more voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the hotel) and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be able to do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various things to get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for participation.
What do you all think?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote:
I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. Candidates, then?
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote:
How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the announcement of the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot stay open until shortly before?)
-James
On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote:
That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may already be there.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Dear all,
Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but there’s a free room Wednesday morning.
Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem.
Thanks, Hugh
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I think it would be good to save some straightforward tickets for an open session, and then (assuming the numbers are small enough), visitors could participate in the discussions and see the changes implemented, right through to the build happening on Jenkins if possible. Although Pure ODD is a huge thing, and fascinating, a presentation on it might not be as much of an introduction to how the Council operates as some hands-on nitty-gritty. Cheers, Martin On 15-09-08 10:59 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
I think we shouldnt be worrying about the elections too much. An open session of the council is a great idea in any case. This would be the weds morning before the keynote I am assuming?
As we will have been meeting for two days already, we should have got through loads of tickets, and also recovered from that strange punch-drunk craziness which tends to appear on the third day (which I assume we are free to spend doing nothing). Which gives us the opportunity to do something a bit different, like present how tickets are handled, discuss recent major changes, etc.
I'd be happy to rabbit on about pure ODD again, if that would be useful.
On 08/09/15 18:12, James Cummings wrote:
Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior to this where others were invited in.
If election results are not announced until business meeting, then invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. (Potentially need a lot more space)
If election results are announced, then invite all successful candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much more space.)
Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in what we do.
Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections.
-JAmes
On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote:
There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet.
I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing more voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the hotel) and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be able to do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various things to get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for participation.
What do you all think?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote:
I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. Candidates, then?
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote:
How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the announcement of the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot stay open until shortly before?)
-James
On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote:
That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may already be there.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote:
> Dear all, > > Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, > Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying > to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but > there’s a free room Wednesday morning. > > Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem. > > Thanks, Hugh > > > > -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council
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Sure, an open session of council where everyone can attend. I don't think too many people will actually take us up on it -- but we'd definitely need a place with some space (just in case, who knows whether 2 people or 10 will show up). Probably depends on how soon we advertise it. I know I've registered, and booked my travel and accommodation already. I agree with Martin that 2-3 straightforward few tickets might be an interesting thing to go through. And we can also have some general discussion, but think the going through some tickets from start to finish is probably a useful demonstration of various aspects of the Council. -James On 08/09/15 20:00, Martin Holmes wrote:
I think it would be good to save some straightforward tickets for an open session, and then (assuming the numbers are small enough), visitors could participate in the discussions and see the changes implemented, right through to the build happening on Jenkins if possible. Although Pure ODD is a huge thing, and fascinating, a presentation on it might not be as much of an introduction to how the Council operates as some hands-on nitty-gritty.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 10:59 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
I think we shouldnt be worrying about the elections too much. An open session of the council is a great idea in any case. This would be the weds morning before the keynote I am assuming?
As we will have been meeting for two days already, we should have got through loads of tickets, and also recovered from that strange punch-drunk craziness which tends to appear on the third day (which I assume we are free to spend doing nothing). Which gives us the opportunity to do something a bit different, like present how tickets are handled, discuss recent major changes, etc.
I'd be happy to rabbit on about pure ODD again, if that would be useful.
On 08/09/15 18:12, James Cummings wrote:
Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior to this where others were invited in.
If election results are not announced until business meeting, then invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. (Potentially need a lot more space)
If election results are announced, then invite all successful candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much more space.)
Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in what we do.
Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections.
-JAmes
On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote:
There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet.
I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing more voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the hotel) and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be able to do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various things to get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for participation.
What do you all think?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote:
I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. Candidates, then?
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote:
How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the announcement of the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot stay open until shortly before?)
-James
On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote:
> That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for > newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? > People may > already be there. > > Cheers, > Martin > > On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. >> 25, Monday, >> Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? >> Emmanuelle’s trying >> to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently >> crowded, but >> there’s a free room Wednesday morning. >> >> Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem. >> >> Thanks, Hugh >> >> >> >> -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council
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I’ve the ODD meeting around the DH Hamburg 2012 in good memory. So, yes, we should do more of those open meetings. Probably another argument for meeting around TEI conferences?! But maybe we should pick one (or several) topic(s) which can be discussed rather than do work on tickets? Best Peter
Am 09.09.2015 um 10:54 schrieb James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>:
Sure, an open session of council where everyone can attend. I don't think too many people will actually take us up on it -- but we'd definitely need a place with some space (just in case, who knows whether 2 people or 10 will show up). Probably depends on how soon we advertise it. I know I've registered, and booked my travel and accommodation already.
I agree with Martin that 2-3 straightforward few tickets might be an interesting thing to go through. And we can also have some general discussion, but think the going through some tickets from start to finish is probably a useful demonstration of various aspects of the Council.
-James
On 08/09/15 20:00, Martin Holmes wrote:
I think it would be good to save some straightforward tickets for an open session, and then (assuming the numbers are small enough), visitors could participate in the discussions and see the changes implemented, right through to the build happening on Jenkins if possible. Although Pure ODD is a huge thing, and fascinating, a presentation on it might not be as much of an introduction to how the Council operates as some hands-on nitty-gritty.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 10:59 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
I think we shouldnt be worrying about the elections too much. An open session of the council is a great idea in any case. This would be the weds morning before the keynote I am assuming?
As we will have been meeting for two days already, we should have got through loads of tickets, and also recovered from that strange punch-drunk craziness which tends to appear on the third day (which I assume we are free to spend doing nothing). Which gives us the opportunity to do something a bit different, like present how tickets are handled, discuss recent major changes, etc.
I'd be happy to rabbit on about pure ODD again, if that would be useful.
On 08/09/15 18:12, James Cummings wrote:
Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior to this where others were invited in.
If election results are not announced until business meeting, then invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. (Potentially need a lot more space)
If election results are announced, then invite all successful candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much more space.)
Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in what we do.
Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections.
-JAmes
On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote:
There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet.
I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing more voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the hotel) and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be able to do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various things to get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for participation.
What do you all think?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote:
I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. Candidates, then?
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote:
> How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the > announcement of > the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot > stay open until shortly before?) > > -James > > On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote: > >> That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for >> newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may >> already be there. >> >> Cheers, >> Martin >> >> On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, >>> Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying >>> to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but >>> there’s a free room Wednesday morning. >>> >>> Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem. >>> >>> Thanks, Hugh >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council
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Hi Peter, I remember organising the "Future of ODD" workshop and it was definitely a good thing. Getting those (like Lou, Sebastian, Syd, etc.) into a room to discuss how ODD should develop along with those who were using it in strange ways (like MEI folks), I think worked out well. And look 'Pure ODD' is partly a result thanks to Lou's hard work. That was done as a separate thing not as a council meeting itself. I do think whenever we have conferences where a significant number of us are going to be together, it might be useful to have such meetings. "Focus groups" might be a good way to think about it. Gathering people together to get community involvement in a decision about how something should develop. e.g. If someone wanted to get lots of talented programmers together for a weekend to rewrite Roma, I'd certainly support it. ;-) I think the opening a council meeting has a slightly different intent: by demonstrating how tickets are processed, implemented, built, and make it into the guidelines, we not only encourage those who want to submit tickets, but those who want to join the council (and/or) implement them. -James On 09/09/15 11:27, Peter Stadler wrote:
I’ve the ODD meeting around the DH Hamburg 2012 in good memory. So, yes, we should do more of those open meetings. Probably another argument for meeting around TEI conferences?! But maybe we should pick one (or several) topic(s) which can be discussed rather than do work on tickets?
Best Peter
Am 09.09.2015 um 10:54 schrieb James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>:
Sure, an open session of council where everyone can attend. I don't think too many people will actually take us up on it -- but we'd definitely need a place with some space (just in case, who knows whether 2 people or 10 will show up). Probably depends on how soon we advertise it. I know I've registered, and booked my travel and accommodation already.
I agree with Martin that 2-3 straightforward few tickets might be an interesting thing to go through. And we can also have some general discussion, but think the going through some tickets from start to finish is probably a useful demonstration of various aspects of the Council.
-James
On 08/09/15 20:00, Martin Holmes wrote:
I think it would be good to save some straightforward tickets for an open session, and then (assuming the numbers are small enough), visitors could participate in the discussions and see the changes implemented, right through to the build happening on Jenkins if possible. Although Pure ODD is a huge thing, and fascinating, a presentation on it might not be as much of an introduction to how the Council operates as some hands-on nitty-gritty.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 10:59 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
I think we shouldnt be worrying about the elections too much. An open session of the council is a great idea in any case. This would be the weds morning before the keynote I am assuming?
As we will have been meeting for two days already, we should have got through loads of tickets, and also recovered from that strange punch-drunk craziness which tends to appear on the third day (which I assume we are free to spend doing nothing). Which gives us the opportunity to do something a bit different, like present how tickets are handled, discuss recent major changes, etc.
I'd be happy to rabbit on about pure ODD again, if that would be useful.
On 08/09/15 18:12, James Cummings wrote:
Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior to this where others were invited in.
If election results are not announced until business meeting, then invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. (Potentially need a lot more space)
If election results are announced, then invite all successful candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much more space.)
Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in what we do.
Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections.
-JAmes
On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote:
There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet.
I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing more voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the hotel) and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be able to do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various things to get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for participation.
What do you all think?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote:
> I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. > Candidates, then? > > Cheers, > Martin > > On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote: > >> How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the >> announcement of >> the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot >> stay open until shortly before?) >> >> -James >> >> On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote: >> >>> That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for >>> newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may >>> already be there. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Martin >>> >>> On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, >>>> Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying >>>> to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but >>>> there’s a free room Wednesday morning. >>>> >>>> Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Hugh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- > tei-council mailing list > tei-council@lists.tei-c.org > http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council > > PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >
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Am 09.09.2015 um 12:33 schrieb James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>:
Hi Peter,
I remember organising the "Future of ODD" workshop and it was definitely a good thing. Getting those (like Lou, Sebastian, Syd, etc.) into a room to discuss how ODD should develop along with those who were using it in strange ways (like MEI folks), I think worked out well. And look 'Pure ODD' is partly a result thanks to Lou's hard work. That was done as a separate thing not as a council meeting itself. I do think whenever we have conferences where a significant number of us are going to be together, it might be useful to have such meetings. "Focus groups" might be a good way to think about it. Gathering people together to get community involvement in a decision about how something should develop. If been aware that it was not an official Council meeting. Nevertheless, all those Council members made it look quite Councilish to a newcomer ;)
e.g. If someone wanted to get lots of talented programmers together for a weekend to rewrite Roma, I'd certainly support it. ;-)
I think the opening a council meeting has a slightly different intent: by demonstrating how tickets are processed, implemented, built, and make it into the guidelines, we not only encourage those who want to submit tickets, but those who want to join the council (and/or) implement them. I see, I take your point.
Best Peter
On 09/09/15 11:42, Peter Stadler wrote:
If been aware that it was not an official Council meeting. Nevertheless, all those Council members made it look quite Councilish to a newcomer ;)
And look at the effect it had on you. You saw our vast incompetence and realised that you too could become a council member! (Well, maybe not just like that. ;-) )
I see, I take your point.
I think the other sort of meeting is a good idea as well -- especially at DH conferences. Speaking of which: What should we do at DH2016 in Krakow? a) Another Hackathon b) An Intro to TEI (or TEI Simple?) or something intro-level workshop c) An advanced (Pure?) ODD workshop? e) Gather people in a focus group to discuss $topic? (Which topics would benefit from this?) f) One or more of the above g) Something different. -James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk Academic IT Services, University of Oxford
I also now have a request from Magdalena, who wonders if there’s any way of coordinating with the TEI Simple Hackathon, which happens on Monday the 26th. I was wondering if we could join forces for a couple of hours or maybe send a couple of Council members to join them for half a day. What do you think?
On Sep 9, 2015, at 6:33 , James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Peter,
I remember organising the "Future of ODD" workshop and it was definitely a good thing. Getting those (like Lou, Sebastian, Syd, etc.) into a room to discuss how ODD should develop along with those who were using it in strange ways (like MEI folks), I think worked out well. And look 'Pure ODD' is partly a result thanks to Lou's hard work. That was done as a separate thing not as a council meeting itself. I do think whenever we have conferences where a significant number of us are going to be together, it might be useful to have such meetings. "Focus groups" might be a good way to think about it. Gathering people together to get community involvement in a decision about how something should develop.
e.g. If someone wanted to get lots of talented programmers together for a weekend to rewrite Roma, I'd certainly support it. ;-)
I think the opening a council meeting has a slightly different intent: by demonstrating how tickets are processed, implemented, built, and make it into the guidelines, we not only encourage those who want to submit tickets, but those who want to join the council (and/or) implement them.
-James
On 09/09/15 11:27, Peter Stadler wrote:
I’ve the ODD meeting around the DH Hamburg 2012 in good memory. So, yes, we should do more of those open meetings. Probably another argument for meeting around TEI conferences?! But maybe we should pick one (or several) topic(s) which can be discussed rather than do work on tickets?
Best Peter
Am 09.09.2015 um 10:54 schrieb James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>:
Sure, an open session of council where everyone can attend. I don't think too many people will actually take us up on it -- but we'd definitely need a place with some space (just in case, who knows whether 2 people or 10 will show up). Probably depends on how soon we advertise it. I know I've registered, and booked my travel and accommodation already.
I agree with Martin that 2-3 straightforward few tickets might be an interesting thing to go through. And we can also have some general discussion, but think the going through some tickets from start to finish is probably a useful demonstration of various aspects of the Council.
-James
On 08/09/15 20:00, Martin Holmes wrote:
I think it would be good to save some straightforward tickets for an open session, and then (assuming the numbers are small enough), visitors could participate in the discussions and see the changes implemented, right through to the build happening on Jenkins if possible. Although Pure ODD is a huge thing, and fascinating, a presentation on it might not be as much of an introduction to how the Council operates as some hands-on nitty-gritty.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 10:59 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
I think we shouldnt be worrying about the elections too much. An open session of the council is a great idea in any case. This would be the weds morning before the keynote I am assuming?
As we will have been meeting for two days already, we should have got through loads of tickets, and also recovered from that strange punch-drunk craziness which tends to appear on the third day (which I assume we are free to spend doing nothing). Which gives us the opportunity to do something a bit different, like present how tickets are handled, discuss recent major changes, etc.
I'd be happy to rabbit on about pure ODD again, if that would be useful.
On 08/09/15 18:12, James Cummings wrote:
Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior to this where others were invited in.
If election results are not announced until business meeting, then invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. (Potentially need a lot more space)
If election results are announced, then invite all successful candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much more space.)
Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in what we do.
Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections.
-JAmes
On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote: > There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if > they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet. > > I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or > semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing > more > voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we > might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the > hotel) > and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they > could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be > able to > do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various > things to > get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for > participation. > > What do you all think? > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote: > >> I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. >> Candidates, then? >> >> Cheers, >> Martin >> >> On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote: >> >>> How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the >>> announcement of >>> the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot >>> stay open until shortly before?) >>> >>> -James >>> >>> On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote: >>> >>>> That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for >>>> newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may >>>> already be there. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, >>>>> Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying >>>>> to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but >>>>> there’s a free room Wednesday morning. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Hugh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >> tei-council mailing list >> tei-council@lists.tei-c.org >> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >> >> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>
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Strangely, I think this is a great idea. And not just because I'm on the TEI Simple project, and Magdalena is sitting across from me. :-) It would be good to get some more Council members up on TEI Simple. Remember that we hope to have the processing model documentation elements in the next release. Please in the next 2 weeks proofread a) the draft guidelines specs at https://github.com/TEIC/TEI-Simple/tree/master/guidelines-specs and let me know if they are wrong somehow and b) the draft guidelines text at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1fw5SCrJBZxT7O7-_HLrkBQJk5YZZJzzDbA-ir0... and edit them or provide feedback to the teisimple mailing list (or me directly). -James On 09/09/15 12:13, Hugh Cayless wrote:
I also now have a request from Magdalena, who wonders if there’s any way of coordinating with the TEI Simple Hackathon, which happens on Monday the 26th. I was wondering if we could join forces for a couple of hours or maybe send a couple of Council members to join them for half a day. What do you think?
On Sep 9, 2015, at 6:33 , James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Peter,
I remember organising the "Future of ODD" workshop and it was definitely a good thing. Getting those (like Lou, Sebastian, Syd, etc.) into a room to discuss how ODD should develop along with those who were using it in strange ways (like MEI folks), I think worked out well. And look 'Pure ODD' is partly a result thanks to Lou's hard work. That was done as a separate thing not as a council meeting itself. I do think whenever we have conferences where a significant number of us are going to be together, it might be useful to have such meetings. "Focus groups" might be a good way to think about it. Gathering people together to get community involvement in a decision about how something should develop.
e.g. If someone wanted to get lots of talented programmers together for a weekend to rewrite Roma, I'd certainly support it. ;-)
I think the opening a council meeting has a slightly different intent: by demonstrating how tickets are processed, implemented, built, and make it into the guidelines, we not only encourage those who want to submit tickets, but those who want to join the council (and/or) implement them.
-James
On 09/09/15 11:27, Peter Stadler wrote:
I’ve the ODD meeting around the DH Hamburg 2012 in good memory. So, yes, we should do more of those open meetings. Probably another argument for meeting around TEI conferences?! But maybe we should pick one (or several) topic(s) which can be discussed rather than do work on tickets?
Best Peter
Am 09.09.2015 um 10:54 schrieb James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>:
Sure, an open session of council where everyone can attend. I don't think too many people will actually take us up on it -- but we'd definitely need a place with some space (just in case, who knows whether 2 people or 10 will show up). Probably depends on how soon we advertise it. I know I've registered, and booked my travel and accommodation already.
I agree with Martin that 2-3 straightforward few tickets might be an interesting thing to go through. And we can also have some general discussion, but think the going through some tickets from start to finish is probably a useful demonstration of various aspects of the Council.
-James
On 08/09/15 20:00, Martin Holmes wrote:
I think it would be good to save some straightforward tickets for an open session, and then (assuming the numbers are small enough), visitors could participate in the discussions and see the changes implemented, right through to the build happening on Jenkins if possible. Although Pure ODD is a huge thing, and fascinating, a presentation on it might not be as much of an introduction to how the Council operates as some hands-on nitty-gritty.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 10:59 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
I think we shouldnt be worrying about the elections too much. An open session of the council is a great idea in any case. This would be the weds morning before the keynote I am assuming?
As we will have been meeting for two days already, we should have got through loads of tickets, and also recovered from that strange punch-drunk craziness which tends to appear on the third day (which I assume we are free to spend doing nothing). Which gives us the opportunity to do something a bit different, like present how tickets are handled, discuss recent major changes, etc.
I'd be happy to rabbit on about pure ODD again, if that would be useful.
On 08/09/15 18:12, James Cummings wrote: > Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote > on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior > to this where others were invited in. > > If election results are not announced until business meeting, then > invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. > (Potentially need a lot more space) > > If election results are announced, then invite all successful > candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much > more space.) > > Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe > handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in > what we do. > > Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to > spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections. > > -JAmes > > > On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote: >> There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if >> they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet. >> >> I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or >> semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing >> more >> voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we >> might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the >> hotel) >> and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they >> could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be >> able to >> do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various >> things to >> get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for >> participation. >> >> What do you all think? >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote: >> >>> I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. >>> Candidates, then? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Martin >>> >>> On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote: >>> >>>> How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the >>>> announcement of >>>> the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot >>>> stay open until shortly before?) >>>> >>>> -James >>>> >>>> On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for >>>>> newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may >>>>> already be there. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, >>>>>> Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying >>>>>> to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but >>>>>> there’s a free room Wednesday morning. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Hugh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>> tei-council mailing list >>> tei-council@lists.tei-c.org >>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>> >>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>> -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk Academic IT Services, University of Oxford -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council
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Why strangely? :-) Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea?
On Sep 9, 2015, at 7:56 , James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Strangely, I think this is a great idea. And not just because I'm on the TEI Simple project, and Magdalena is sitting across from me. :-)
It would be good to get some more Council members up on TEI Simple. Remember that we hope to have the processing model documentation elements in the next release. Please in the next 2 weeks proofread
a) the draft guidelines specs at https://github.com/TEIC/TEI-Simple/tree/master/guidelines-specs <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI-Simple/tree/master/guidelines-specs> and let me know if they are wrong somehow and b) the draft guidelines text at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1fw5SCrJBZxT7O7-_HLrkBQJk5YZZJzzDbA-ir0... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1fw5SCrJBZxT7O7-_HLrkBQJk5YZZJzzDbA-ir0n4Y/edit?usp=sharing>
and edit them or provide feedback to the teisimple mailing list (or me directly).
-James
On 09/09/15 12:13, Hugh Cayless wrote:
I also now have a request from Magdalena, who wonders if there’s any way of coordinating with the TEI Simple Hackathon, which happens on Monday the 26th. I was wondering if we could join forces for a couple of hours or maybe send a couple of Council members to join them for half a day. What do you think?
On Sep 9, 2015, at 6:33 , James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Peter,
I remember organising the "Future of ODD" workshop and it was definitely a good thing. Getting those (like Lou, Sebastian, Syd, etc.) into a room to discuss how ODD should develop along with those who were using it in strange ways (like MEI folks), I think worked out well. And look 'Pure ODD' is partly a result thanks to Lou's hard work. That was done as a separate thing not as a council meeting itself. I do think whenever we have conferences where a significant number of us are going to be together, it might be useful to have such meetings. "Focus groups" might be a good way to think about it. Gathering people together to get community involvement in a decision about how something should develop.
e.g. If someone wanted to get lots of talented programmers together for a weekend to rewrite Roma, I'd certainly support it. ;-)
I think the opening a council meeting has a slightly different intent: by demonstrating how tickets are processed, implemented, built, and make it into the guidelines, we not only encourage those who want to submit tickets, but those who want to join the council (and/or) implement them.
-James
On 09/09/15 11:27, Peter Stadler wrote:
I’ve the ODD meeting around the DH Hamburg 2012 in good memory. So, yes, we should do more of those open meetings. Probably another argument for meeting around TEI conferences?! But maybe we should pick one (or several) topic(s) which can be discussed rather than do work on tickets?
Best Peter
Am 09.09.2015 um 10:54 schrieb James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>:
Sure, an open session of council where everyone can attend. I don't think too many people will actually take us up on it -- but we'd definitely need a place with some space (just in case, who knows whether 2 people or 10 will show up). Probably depends on how soon we advertise it. I know I've registered, and booked my travel and accommodation already.
I agree with Martin that 2-3 straightforward few tickets might be an interesting thing to go through. And we can also have some general discussion, but think the going through some tickets from start to finish is probably a useful demonstration of various aspects of the Council.
-James
On 08/09/15 20:00, Martin Holmes wrote:
I think it would be good to save some straightforward tickets for an open session, and then (assuming the numbers are small enough), visitors could participate in the discussions and see the changes implemented, right through to the build happening on Jenkins if possible. Although Pure ODD is a huge thing, and fascinating, a presentation on it might not be as much of an introduction to how the Council operates as some hands-on nitty-gritty.
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-08 10:59 AM, Lou Burnard wrote: > I think we shouldnt be worrying about the elections too much. An open > session of the council is a great idea in any case. This would be the > weds morning before the keynote I am assuming? > > As we will have been meeting for two days already, we should have got > through loads of tickets, and also recovered from that strange > punch-drunk craziness which tends to appear on the third day (which I > assume we are free to spend doing nothing). Which gives us the > opportunity to do something a bit different, like present how tickets > are handled, discuss recent major changes, etc. > > I'd be happy to rabbit on about pure ODD again, if that would be useful. > > > On 08/09/15 18:12, James Cummings wrote: >> Looking at the schedule I'm unable to tell precisely when the keynote >> on wednesday is starting. One option would be to have a session prior >> to this where others were invited in. >> >> If election results are not announced until business meeting, then >> invite all candidates to a "Find out more about the Council" session. >> (Potentially need a lot more space) >> >> If election results are announced, then invite all successful >> candidates to a "Intro to Council Workflows" session. (Not too much >> more space.) >> >> Neither of these would be really doing Council business (except maybe >> handling a handful of tickets to demonstrate?) but training people in >> what we do. >> >> Though to be honest, if an unsuccessful candidate still wanted to >> spend a morning with us, then I'd have no objections. >> >> -JAmes >> >> >> On 08/09/15 17:59, Hugh Cayless wrote: >>> There was talk of moving the election cycle so candidates would know if >>> they'd been elected before the meeting, but that hasn't happened yet. >>> >>> I'm of two minds: I don't think there'd be any harm in having an open or >>> semi-open Council meeting. As you all know, I'm in favor of allowing >>> more >>> voluntary (if properly credited) participation anyway. On the other, we >>> might run into space constraints (I think we certainly would at the >>> hotel) >>> and there might be issues with getting participants up to speed so they >>> could do helpful work. We'd also have to talk about what they'd be >>> able to >>> do. I think it would be a good thing, but we'd need to do various >>> things to >>> get set up for it, and do them quickly, including a call for >>> participation. >>> >>> What do you all think? >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> I guess you're right. I was thinking the results would be out by then. >>>> Candidates, then? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> On 15-09-08 08:21 AM, James Cummings wrote: >>>> >>>>> How will they know they are newly elected? Doesn't the >>>>> announcement of >>>>> the election results happen at the business meeting? (And the ballot >>>>> stay open until shortly before?) >>>>> >>>>> -James >>>>> >>>>> On 08/09/15 15:56, Martin Holmes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's OK with me. I wonder if we could offer the option for >>>>>> newly-elected members to sit in if they're interested? People may >>>>>> already be there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Martin >>>>>> >>>>>> On 15-09-08 05:51 AM, Hugh Cayless wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any objections if our meeting happens on Sunday, Oct. 25, Monday, >>>>>>> Oct. 26, and the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 28? Emmanuelle’s trying >>>>>>> to make the schedule work out and Tuesday is currently crowded, but >>>>>>> there’s a free room Wednesday morning. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please let me know ASAP if this presents a problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Hugh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> tei-council mailing list >>>> tei-council@lists.tei-c.org >>>> http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council >>>> >>>> PLEASE NOTE: postings to this list are publicly archived >>>> -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk Academic IT Services, University of Oxford -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council
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On 09/09/15 14:15, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Why strangely? :-)
Just being sarcastic -- I think it is important. ;-)
Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea?
The only argument I can see against it is that we're having quite a disrupted Council meeting. Sun: Meet as per normal Mon: Meet but then also nip off to TEI Simple workshop Wed: Open meeting. Maybe if we make a point of reviewing and commenting all the tickets in advance we can speed up things -- but need to make sure we have time on Sunday for discussion of any other larger issues as well. -James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk Academic IT Services, University of Oxford
And Tuesday is a free day? On 09/09/15 16:43, James Cummings wrote:
On 09/09/15 14:15, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Why strangely? :-)
Just being sarcastic -- I think it is important. ;-)
Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea?
The only argument I can see against it is that we're having quite a disrupted Council meeting.
Sun: Meet as per normal Mon: Meet but then also nip off to TEI Simple workshop Wed: Open meeting.
Maybe if we make a point of reviewing and commenting all the tickets in advance we can speed up things -- but need to make sure we have time on Sunday for discussion of any other larger issues as well.
-James
If Tuesday is free, I'm up for an informal ticket session for at least half the day in someone's room or apartment (I'll have a little apartment, and my wife will have gone home by then). Cheers, Martin On 15-09-09 08:45 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
And Tuesday is a free day?
On 09/09/15 16:43, James Cummings wrote:
On 09/09/15 14:15, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Why strangely? :-)
Just being sarcastic -- I think it is important. ;-)
Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea?
The only argument I can see against it is that we're having quite a disrupted Council meeting.
Sun: Meet as per normal Mon: Meet but then also nip off to TEI Simple workshop Wed: Open meeting.
Maybe if we make a point of reviewing and commenting all the tickets in advance we can speed up things -- but need to make sure we have time on Sunday for discussion of any other larger issues as well.
-James
I on the other hand have been invited to Another Event on that day, concerning which I am in (at least) two minds. On 09/09/15 16:48, Martin Holmes wrote:
If Tuesday is free, I'm up for an informal ticket session for at least half the day in someone's room or apartment (I'll have a little apartment, and my wife will have gone home by then).
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-09 08:45 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
And Tuesday is a free day?
On 09/09/15 16:43, James Cummings wrote:
On 09/09/15 14:15, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Why strangely? :-)
Just being sarcastic -- I think it is important. ;-)
Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea?
The only argument I can see against it is that we're having quite a disrupted Council meeting.
Sun: Meet as per normal Mon: Meet but then also nip off to TEI Simple workshop Wed: Open meeting.
Maybe if we make a point of reviewing and commenting all the tickets in advance we can speed up things -- but need to make sure we have time on Sunday for discussion of any other larger issues as well.
-James
Hi all, Tuesday is looking free for me as well and I'm happy to work on tickets with others. Booking my flights now... quick poll, at what hotel are you staying? Raff On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
I on the other hand have been invited to Another Event on that day, concerning which I am in (at least) two minds.
On 09/09/15 16:48, Martin Holmes wrote:
If Tuesday is free, I'm up for an informal ticket session for at least half the day in someone's room or apartment (I'll have a little apartment, and my wife will have gone home by then).
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-09 08:45 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
And Tuesday is a free day?
On 09/09/15 16:43, James Cummings wrote:
On 09/09/15 14:15, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Why strangely? :-)
Just being sarcastic -- I think it is important. ;-)
Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea?
The only argument I can see against it is that we're having quite a disrupted Council meeting.
Sun: Meet as per normal Mon: Meet but then also nip off to TEI Simple workshop Wed: Open meeting.
Maybe if we make a point of reviewing and commenting all the tickets in advance we can speed up things -- but need to make sure we have time on Sunday for discussion of any other larger issues as well.
-James
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I followed our illustrious leader in booking at the "Mama Shelter". On 09/09/15 16:53, Raffaele Viglianti wrote:
Hi all, Tuesday is looking free for me as well and I'm happy to work on tickets with others.
Booking my flights now... quick poll, at what hotel are you staying?
Raff
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
I on the other hand have been invited to Another Event on that day, concerning which I am in (at least) two minds.
On 09/09/15 16:48, Martin Holmes wrote:
If Tuesday is free, I'm up for an informal ticket session for at least half the day in someone's room or apartment (I'll have a little apartment, and my wife will have gone home by then).
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-09 08:45 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
And Tuesday is a free day?
On 09/09/15 16:43, James Cummings wrote:
On 09/09/15 14:15, Hugh Cayless wrote:
Why strangely? :-)
Just being sarcastic -- I think it is important. ;-)
Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea? The only argument I can see against it is that we're having quite a disrupted Council meeting.
Sun: Meet as per normal Mon: Meet but then also nip off to TEI Simple workshop Wed: Open meeting.
Maybe if we make a point of reviewing and commenting all the tickets in advance we can speed up things -- but need to make sure we have time on Sunday for discussion of any other larger issues as well.
-James
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I'm in the Sofitel. -James On 09/09/15 16:57, Lou Burnard wrote:
I followed our illustrious leader in booking at the "Mama Shelter".
On 09/09/15 16:53, Raffaele Viglianti wrote:
Hi all, Tuesday is looking free for me as well and I'm happy to work on tickets with others.
Booking my flights now... quick poll, at what hotel are you staying?
Raff
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
I on the other hand have been invited to Another Event on that day, concerning which I am in (at least) two minds.
On 09/09/15 16:48, Martin Holmes wrote:
If Tuesday is free, I'm up for an informal ticket session for at least half the day in someone's room or apartment (I'll have a little apartment, and my wife will have gone home by then).
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-09 08:45 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
And Tuesday is a free day?
On 09/09/15 16:43, James Cummings wrote:
On 09/09/15 14:15, Hugh Cayless wrote:
> Why strangely? :-) > Just being sarcastic -- I think it is important. ;-)
Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea? The only argument I can see against it is that we're having quite a disrupted Council meeting.
Sun: Meet as per normal Mon: Meet but then also nip off to TEI Simple workshop Wed: Open meeting.
Maybe if we make a point of reviewing and commenting all the tickets in advance we can speed up things -- but need to make sure we have time on Sunday for discussion of any other larger issues as well.
-James
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Mama Shelter, Saturday checkin, Saturday checkout. Just booked (I think) -- a flight to Lyon via Paris CDG (one stop), departing DTW 23 Oct, arr 24 Oct -- a TGV from Lyon to Lille 31 Oct -- Eurostar from Lille to London St Pancras 31 Oct -- a flight from LHR to DTW 6 Nov Which gives me (us) nearly a week free in lovely rainy November UK weather. Oh, and dark, must not forget dark. Where shall we go? Aside from Oxford, of course. pfs On Wed, Sep 9, 2015, at 11:57, Lou Burnard wrote:
I followed our illustrious leader in booking at the "Mama Shelter".
On 09/09/15 16:53, Raffaele Viglianti wrote:
Hi all, Tuesday is looking free for me as well and I'm happy to work on tickets with others.
Booking my flights now... quick poll, at what hotel are you staying?
Raff
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
I on the other hand have been invited to Another Event on that day, concerning which I am in (at least) two minds.
On 09/09/15 16:48, Martin Holmes wrote:
If Tuesday is free, I'm up for an informal ticket session for at least half the day in someone's room or apartment (I'll have a little apartment, and my wife will have gone home by then).
Cheers, Martin
On 15-09-09 08:45 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
And Tuesday is a free day?
On 09/09/15 16:43, James Cummings wrote:
On 09/09/15 14:15, Hugh Cayless wrote:
> Why strangely? :-) > Just being sarcastic -- I think it is important. ;-)
Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea? The only argument I can see against it is that we're having quite a disrupted Council meeting.
Sun: Meet as per normal Mon: Meet but then also nip off to TEI Simple workshop Wed: Open meeting.
Maybe if we make a point of reviewing and commenting all the tickets in advance we can speed up things -- but need to make sure we have time on Sunday for discussion of any other larger issues as well.
-James
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Does anyone think this is a *bad* idea?
That TEI Simple is a bad idea, or that interrupting the Council meeting to help out at the TEI Simple Hackathon is a bad idea? A somewhat rhetorical question, as I think they are both bad ideas.
participants (9)
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Fabio Ciotti -
Hugh Cayless -
James Cummings -
Lou Burnard -
Martin Holmes -
Paul Schaffner -
Peter Stadler -
Raffaele Viglianti -
Syd Bauman