Will join briefly: will need to leave at 12:30 sharp. Raff On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

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-------- Original message -------- From: Syd Bauman Date:2016/11/15 12:57 (GMT+00:00) To: ron.vandenbranden@KANTL.BE,mholmes@uvic.ca,marcus.brinkmann@ ruhr-uni-bochum.de,me@juretriglav.si,andrew.hankinson@mail.mcgill.ca,TEI Council Subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #3

Reminder: we are scheduled to meet at 17:00Z today, Tue 11-15. That's 09:00 in Vancouver, 12:00 in New York, 17:00 in London, and 18:00 in Vienna.

Anyone volunteer to establish the Google Hangout and send out the URL? (I have trouble with Google on this machine, so would prefer not to do that myself.)

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Thanks for a great Styesheets session today! On point 3) below, I revisited the ODDs my students and I were generating and discovered I was making an idiotic error: I'd used @exclude instead of @except on moduleRef, which happens to permit both attributes though they mean very different things. However, I did test and note and some strangeness in the HTML output when I assign an element to a new class, and when I use a datatype element inside attDef. I'm filing a ticket on Stylesheets shortly with some examples. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/>

On Nov 15, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Syd Bauman <s.bauman@northeastern.edu> wrote:

1) Martin & Syd presented their work so far in parsing out the steps of processing a customization ODD. It is at http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Mapping_ODD_processing

2) Discussion of the hack known as "dttMagic" (which produces "p5subsetDoctored"). General agreement that it would be better if the hack were performed as a step in the stylesheet's processing, rather than as a separate step in building P5 that generates a separate p5subset source to use. We decided to try tucking it into odd2dtd.xsl. See Stylesheets issue 184.[1]

3) Elisa will be posting an issue (to Stylesheets, I think) in which the HTML documentation generated from a customization ODD using oXygen lists *all* TEI elements, even those that are not included in the customized schema.

4) Plans for next month (Tue 2016-12-20 17:00Z): - table review (if nothing else to push Syd & Martin to make progress on it -- but note that any and all of you are encouraged to contribute ... it is a wiki, after all :-) - nomenclature decisions -- we need names for the various steps - possibly a presentation of folding dtdMagic into odd2dtd.xsl - possibly a presentation of work on fixing minOccurs & maxOccurs

5) Next year: agreed to try meeting each Thu 1 week after a Council conference call at 06:00 Victoria time = 09:00 Providence time = 14:00 London time = 15:00 Vienna time. (We did not discuss how to handle time zone changes.)

Notes ----- [1] https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/184 -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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That's good. I took a look at some documentation I'd generated after you raised this, and I think I do see instances where documentation for elements not included in my schema still gets bundled into the appendix; but it could be due to something stupid in that particular schema. Cheers, Martin On 2016-11-15 06:38 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:

And actually…never mind! No bugs at all. Repairing the error in moduleRef took care of the other strange things we were seeing with datatypes and element assignments. The HTML documentation is coming out fine. Whew! Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org

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On Nov 15, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebbondar@gmail.com <mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for a great Styesheets session today! On point 3) below, I revisited the ODDs my students and I were generating and discovered I was making an idiotic error: I'd used @exclude instead of @except on moduleRef, which happens to permit both attributes though they mean very different things. However, I did test and note and some strangeness in the HTML output when I assign an element to a new class, and when I use a datatype element inside attDef. I'm filing a ticket on Stylesheets shortly with some examples.

Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/>

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On Nov 15, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Syd Bauman <s.bauman@northeastern.edu <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>> wrote:

1) Martin & Syd presented their work so far in parsing out the steps of processing a customization ODD. It is at http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Mapping_ODD_processing

2) Discussion of the hack known as "dttMagic" (which produces "p5subsetDoctored"). General agreement that it would be better if the hack were performed as a step in the stylesheet's processing, rather than as a separate step in building P5 that generates a separate p5subset source to use. We decided to try tucking it into odd2dtd.xsl. See Stylesheets issue 184.[1]

3) Elisa will be posting an issue (to Stylesheets, I think) in which the HTML documentation generated from a customization ODD using oXygen lists *all* TEI elements, even those that are not included in the customized schema.

4) Plans for next month (Tue 2016-12-20 17:00Z): - table review (if nothing else to push Syd & Martin to make progress on it -- but note that any and all of you are encouraged to contribute ... it is a wiki, after all :-) - nomenclature decisions -- we need names for the various steps - possibly a presentation of folding dtdMagic into odd2dtd.xsl - possibly a presentation of work on fixing minOccurs & maxOccurs

5) Next year: agreed to try meeting each Thu 1 week after a Council conference call at 06:00 Victoria time = 09:00 Providence time = 14:00 London time = 15:00 Vienna time. (We did not discuss how to handle time zone changes.)

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