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Syd Bauman

20 Dec 2016 20 Dec '16

12:16 a.m.

AFAIK we are good to go for our next session tomorrow, Tue 12-20 at 17:00Z. That's 09:00 in Vancouver, 12:00 in New York, 17:00 in London, and 18:00 in Vienna. Anyone volunteer to establish the Google Hangout and send out the URL? (I have trouble with Google on this machine, so would prefer not to do that myself.)

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Elisa Beshero-Bondar

20 Dec 20 Dec

1:10 a.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

Alas, I won't be able to join. It's a desperate battle to the finish for final semester grades here. Good luck--and presumably I'll see you next year! Elisa On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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AFAIK we are good to go for our next session tomorrow, Tue 12-20 at 17:00Z. That's 09:00 in Vancouver, 12:00 in New York, 17:00 in London, and 18:00 in Vienna.

Anyone volunteer to establish the Google Hangout and send out the URL? (I have trouble with Google on this machine, so would prefer not to do that myself.) -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Martin Holmes

5:54 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

I'll try to establish the hangout... On 2016-12-19 03:16 PM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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AFAIK we are good to go for our next session tomorrow, Tue 12-20 at 17:00Z. That's 09:00 in Vancouver, 12:00 in New York, 17:00 in London, and 18:00 in Vienna.

Anyone volunteer to establish the Google Hangout and send out the URL? (I have trouble with Google on this machine, so would prefer not to do that myself.)

Martin Holmes

5:57 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

I think it's this: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/4hqrfkwh6re2jfuf4okyxzcdzie?authuser=0&hl=en On 2016-12-19 03:16 PM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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AFAIK we are good to go for our next session tomorrow, Tue 12-20 at 17:00Z. That's 09:00 in Vancouver, 12:00 in New York, 17:00 in London, and 18:00 in Vienna.

Anyone volunteer to establish the Google Hangout and send out the URL? (I have trouble with Google on this machine, so would prefer not to do that myself.)

Syd Bauman

21 Dec 21 Dec

1:58 a.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

Hi all. Sorry I had to duck out in such a rush there.[1] Hope the rest of the meeting went well. Do we have any "to do" items for next month? If not, what should we be covering? Speaking of next month, IIRC we are planning to meet monthly 1 week after the main TEI Council meeting. That means our December meeting will be Thu 05 Jan. I am going to suggest we settle on 14:00Z for now, and shift to 13:00 after our clocks spring forward. So that would be * Thu 05 Jan @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Feb @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Mar @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 06 Apr @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) where those parentheticals are localtime for Vancouver, New York, London, and Vienna. Notes ----- [1] I typically arrange to be off duty when we have our meetings, but the on-duty ambulance was already out on a call when some fellow fell off a roof. Kinda had to go.

Martin Holmes

13 Jan 13 Jan

5:01 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

Since this first meeting failed, and I think Syd may no longer be able to make these times, should we start thinking about another schedule? Cheers, Martin On 2016-12-20 04:58 PM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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Hi all. Sorry I had to duck out in such a rush there.[1] Hope the rest of the meeting went well. Do we have any "to do" items for next month? If not, what should we be covering?

Speaking of next month, IIRC we are planning to meet monthly 1 week after the main TEI Council meeting. That means our December meeting will be Thu 05 Jan. I am going to suggest we settle on 14:00Z for now, and shift to 13:00 after our clocks spring forward. So that would be

* Thu 05 Jan @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Feb @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Mar @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 06 Apr @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00)

where those parentheticals are localtime for Vancouver, New York, London, and Vienna.

Notes ----- [1] I typically arrange to be off duty when we have our meetings, but the on-duty ambulance was already out on a call when some fellow fell off a roof. Kinda had to go.

Syd Bauman

15 Jan 15 Jan

4:40 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

While I do apologize for missing the 01-05 meeting, I have no over-arching problem with this timeslot in general. (We have moved the TAPAS meeting from Thu morning to Tue morning.) So unless there are others who don't like the proposed times (Martin, 'tis OK for you?), I think we should stick with the plan: * Thu 02 Feb @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Mar @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 06 Apr @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) where those parentheticals are localtime for Vancouver, New York, London, and Vienna. The July date would be Thu 06, which would work for me, too. The Aug date (Thu 03) would not (Balisage).

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Since this first meeting failed, and I think Syd may no longer be able to make these times, should we start thinking about another schedule?

Peter Stadler

7:35 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

works for me! Best Peter

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Am 15.01.2017 um 16:40 schrieb Syd Bauman :

While I do apologize for missing the 01-05 meeting, I have no over-arching problem with this timeslot in general. (We have moved the TAPAS meeting from Thu morning to Tue morning.)

So unless there are others who don't like the proposed times (Martin, 'tis OK for you?), I think we should stick with the plan:

* Thu 02 Feb @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Mar @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 06 Apr @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00)

where those parentheticals are localtime for Vancouver, New York, London, and Vienna.

The July date would be Thu 06, which would work for me, too. The Aug date (Thu 03) would not (Balisage).

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Elisa Beshero-Bondar

8:45 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

I think that'll work fine for me, too, though I might have to miss a few for class prep. Thanks, Syd! Elisa On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Peter Stadler wrote:

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works for me!

Best Peter

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Am 15.01.2017 um 16:40 schrieb Syd Bauman :

While I do apologize for missing the 01-05 meeting, I have no over-arching problem with this timeslot in general. (We have moved the TAPAS meeting from Thu morning to Tue morning.)

So unless there are others who don't like the proposed times (Martin, 'tis OK for you?), I think we should stick with the plan:

* Thu 02 Feb @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Mar @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 06 Apr @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00)

where those parentheticals are localtime for Vancouver, New York, London, and Vienna.

The July date would be Thu 06, which would work for me, too. The Aug date (Thu 03) would not (Balisage).

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Martin Holmes

2 Mar 2 Mar

2:27 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #5

Hi all, Syd and I thought we might start today by looking at this ticket: Stylesheets issue 206: https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/206 The problem is that if idno is a final element in analytic, a space is not added (both in HTML and PDF output). An example of what should happen is in common_linking.xsl line 220. The issue itself is in common_header.xsl line 86. We probably need to add a clause to the effect that if tei:idno is the last child of analytic, it should have a period followed by a space after it. See you in a bit! Cheers, Martin

Martin Holmes

15 Jan 15 Jan

11:29 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

Works for me. At the next one, I can talk a bit about what I've been learning from trying to rewrite some of the test suite. Cheers, Martin On 2017-01-15 07:40 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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While I do apologize for missing the 01-05 meeting, I have no over-arching problem with this timeslot in general. (We have moved the TAPAS meeting from Thu morning to Tue morning.)

So unless there are others who don't like the proposed times (Martin, 'tis OK for you?), I think we should stick with the plan:

* Thu 02 Feb @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Mar @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 06 Apr @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00)

where those parentheticals are localtime for Vancouver, New York, London, and Vienna.

The July date would be Thu 06, which would work for me, too. The Aug date (Thu 03) would not (Balisage).

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Since this first meeting failed, and I think Syd may no longer be able to make these times, should we start thinking about another schedule?

Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at)

16 Jan 16 Jan

11:36 a.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

Hi, Thursday should work for me too. I remember that we agreed to look into something before our next meeting, but I honestly can't remember. Could someone please enlighten me? Best, Martina -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org [mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org] Im Auftrag von Martin Holmes Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. Jänner 2017 23:29 An: s.bauman@northeastern.edu; ron.vandenbranden@KANTL.BE; marcus.brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de; me@juretriglav.si; andrew.hankinson@mail.mcgill.ca; TEI Council Betreff: Re: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4 Works for me. At the next one, I can talk a bit about what I've been learning from trying to rewrite some of the test suite. Cheers, Martin On 2017-01-15 07:40 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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While I do apologize for missing the 01-05 meeting, I have no over-arching problem with this timeslot in general. (We have moved the TAPAS meeting from Thu morning to Tue morning.)

So unless there are others who don't like the proposed times (Martin, 'tis OK for you?), I think we should stick with the plan:

* Thu 02 Feb @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Mar @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 06 Apr @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00)

where those parentheticals are localtime for Vancouver, New York, London, and Vienna.

The July date would be Thu 06, which would work for me, too. The Aug date (Thu 03) would not (Balisage).

...
Since this first meeting failed, and I think Syd may no longer be able to make these times, should we start thinking about another schedule? -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Raffaele Viglianti

17 Jan 17 Jan

7:43 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

Hi, this schedule works for me overall, though I won't be available for the next meeting on Feb 2. Raff On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 5:36 AM, Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

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Hi,

Thursday should work for me too. I remember that we agreed to look into something before our next meeting, but I honestly can't remember. Could someone please enlighten me?

Best, Martina

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org [mailto:tei-council-bounces@ lists.tei-c.org] Im Auftrag von Martin Holmes Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. Jänner 2017 23:29 An: s.bauman@northeastern.edu; ron.vandenbranden@KANTL.BE; marcus.brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de; me@juretriglav.si; andrew.hankinson@mail.mcgill.ca; TEI Council Betreff: Re: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #4

Works for me. At the next one, I can talk a bit about what I've been learning from trying to rewrite some of the test suite.

Cheers, Martin

On 2017-01-15 07:40 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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While I do apologize for missing the 01-05 meeting, I have no over-arching problem with this timeslot in general. (We have moved the TAPAS meeting from Thu morning to Tue morning.)

So unless there are others who don't like the proposed times (Martin, 'tis OK for you?), I think we should stick with the plan:

* Thu 02 Feb @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 02 Mar @ 14:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 06 Apr @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00) * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z (= 06:00, 09:00, 14:00, 15:00)

where those parentheticals are localtime for Vancouver, New York, London, and Vienna.

The July date would be Thu 06, which would work for me, too. The Aug date (Thu 03) would not (Balisage).

...
Since this first meeting failed, and I think Syd may no longer be able to make these times, should we start thinking about another schedule? -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Syd Bauman

1 Feb 1 Feb

9:36 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #5

We are planning to meet tomorrow, Thu 02-02 at 14:00Z, i.e.: 06:00 PST (poor Martin) 09:00 EST 14:00 GMT 15:00 CET Current agenda items include: * table review (http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Mapping_ODD_processing) - we still need rows for TEI ODD -> documentation * generation of PDF from within oXygen framework * stylesheet re-write project * re-working the Stylesheet/Test/ suite (see Martin's Test2/, which uses 'ant') * ticket: https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/227 I can try to be the one to establish a Google Hangout and invite people, but I have been remarkably unsuccessful at this in the past. So if anyone would like to volunteer ...

Lou Burnard

11:20 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #5

On 01/02/17 20:36, Syd Bauman wrote:

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* ticket: https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/227

This is probably the least important of several outstanding stylesheet issues: why choose this one?

Syd Bauman

2 Feb 2 Feb

2:53 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #5

No reason other than it seemed like something that might prove pedagogically useful in a short period of time. I.e., something we might, as a group, learn from even if there were only 15 mins left at end of call to attack it.

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This is probably the least important of several outstanding stylesheet issues: why choose this one?

Elisa Beshero-Bondar

5:56 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] oXygen TEI framework plugin install problem on (my) Mac OSX

Dear Council— I’m seeing a new problem on my Mac OS X installation of oXygen, and I can’t seem to shake it with fresh installations. I’m blocked from installing the TEI (stable) framework plugin (from here http://www.tei-c.org/release/oxygen/updateSite.oxygen http://www.tei-c.org/release/oxygen/updateSite.oxygen ) , and this is the error I see when I try to install: "There was a problem establishing the secure HTTPS connection. In case the server you are trying to connect to uses self-signed certificates, read the 'Troubleshooting HTTPS' section from the user manual. Full error message: Received fatal alert: handshake_failure” I’ve been following the troubleshooting guidance in the oXygen manual in adjusting Preferences (automatically accept security certificates even if invalid). In fact, I’ve got *everything* checked under Network Connections —> HTTP(S)/WebDav, and I’ve been testing this all over on multiple network connections, to no avail. I *can* and *have* installed the bleeding edge plugin http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/oxygen-tei-bleeding/lastSuccessfulBuild/a... http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/oxygen-tei-bleeding/lastSuccessfulBuild/a... : no problems here! Stuff I’ve tried: * Attempt to reproduce the problem on another Mac: I asked a friend to try updating his stable framework plugin, and he’s not seeing the problem. (fail.) * Follow troubleshooting here: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/18.1/ug-editor/tasks/import-https-ser... https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/18.1/ug-editor/tasks/import-https-ser... but I’m stymied b/c a) I don’t see any security certificate problem with connecting to our framework plugin site, and b) Though I can, of course, download the plugin locally, I don’t see a way to get hold of a certificate (it’s not an https connection anyway). Does anyone have any idea what’s going wrong here? I’d like to update my plugin to 6.1.1 on this because it’s the computer I’ll have in Prague next week. Sorry if this is a blunderbuss of an idiot's question…I don’t want to go messing with my JRE unless it’s necessary, and I thought I’d ask Council before I go begging for help from oXygen... Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/

Elisa Beshero-Bondar

6:08 p.m.

New subject: [tei-council] oXygen TEI framework plugin install problem on (my) Mac OSX

There’s the screen-capture illustration. I’m contacting oXygen support with it now, so I’ll report back when I learn anything. For now, though, I wonder if anyone else has seen anything similar? Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/

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On Feb 2, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:

Dear Council— I’m seeing a new problem on my Mac OS X installation of oXygen, and I can’t seem to shake it with fresh installations. I’m blocked from installing the TEI (stable) framework plugin (from here http://www.tei-c.org/release/oxygen/updateSite.oxygen http://www.tei-c.org/release/oxygen/updateSite.oxygen ) , and this is the error I see when I try to install: "There was a problem establishing the secure HTTPS connection. In case the server you are trying to connect to uses self-signed certificates, read the 'Troubleshooting HTTPS' section from the user manual. Full error message: Received fatal alert: handshake_failure”

I’ve been following the troubleshooting guidance in the oXygen manual in adjusting Preferences (automatically accept security certificates even if invalid). In fact, I’ve got *everything* checked under Network Connections —> HTTP(S)/WebDav, and I’ve been testing this all over on multiple network connections, to no avail.

I *can* and *have* installed the bleeding edge plugin http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/oxygen-tei-bleeding/lastSuccessfulBuild/a... http://teijenkins.hcmc.uvic.ca/job/oxygen-tei-bleeding/lastSuccessfulBuild/a... : no problems here!

Stuff I’ve tried: * Attempt to reproduce the problem on another Mac: I asked a friend to try updating his stable framework plugin, and he’s not seeing the problem. (fail.) * Follow troubleshooting here: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/18.1/ug-editor/tasks/import-https-ser... https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/18.1/ug-editor/tasks/import-https-ser... but I’m stymied b/c a) I don’t see any security certificate problem with connecting to our framework plugin site, and b) Though I can, of course, download the plugin locally, I don’t see a way to get hold of a certificate (it’s not an https connection anyway).

Does anyone have any idea what’s going wrong here? I’d like to update my plugin to 6.1.1 on this because it’s the computer I’ll have in Prague next week.

Sorry if this is a blunderbuss of an idiot's question…I don’t want to go messing with my JRE unless it’s necessary, and I thought I’d ask Council before I go begging for help from oXygen... Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/

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