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On Apr 6, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Raffaele Viglianti wrote:

Hi all, unfortunately I have a conflict and won't be able to join today.

Raff

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Martin Holmes wrote:

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Meeting at the top of the hour, folks! Just a reminder.

On 2017-03-31 11:25 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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We are planning to meet next Thu, 04-06 at 13:00Z, i.e.:

Thu 2017-04-06 06:00 PDT (poor Martin) Thu 2017-04-06 09:00 EDT Thu 2017-04-06 14:00 BST Thu 2017-04-06 15:00 CEST

Martin will be sending out details on 2 more issues we thought might be worth addressing. They are https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/246 and another (that I don't think has a ticket yet) which is an error in common/common_figures.xsl (roughly lines 226-240): the stylesheet makes the erroneous assumption that if there is a @width attribute, then there will be a @height attribute.

Moreover, there are still the agenda items from our last meeting, most of which are still to be addressed. They include:

* table review (http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Mapping_ODD_processing) - we still need rows for TEI ODD -> documentation * generation of PDF from within oXygen framework * stylesheet re-write project * re-working the Stylesheet/Test/ suite (see Martin's Test2/, which uses 'ant') * ticket: https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/227

I can try to be the one to establish a Google Hangout and invite people, but I have been remarkably unsuccessful at this in the past. So if anyone would like to volunteer ...

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Hi Council and Stylesheets crew-- I wish I'd been able to attend the last Stylesheets meeting--I've been learning much from you (Martin) and Syd in the preceding sessions, but I'll agree that the passive watching of two very active participants can only go so far. I like your idea to have us fork the Stylesheets repo, create fixes, and submit them by pull requests, since this will be a good way to encourage active learning. Here's a problem for me: If we adhere to the current Stylesheets meeting schedule, I'm probably about to miss the *next* Stylesheets meeting, too (and possibly others of us will, as well), because of the STS conference hosted by MITH on Wed. May 31 - Fri. June 2. I'm actually scheduled to present on Thurs. June 1 at 9am EST, which I think is exactly when the next Stylesheets meeting is supposed to be, right? I don't really want to be missing these, and especially not two in a row, but I don't think I'll have much choice if we stick to the usual schedule. Since this particular conference is likely a schedule handicap for others among us, and since scheduling is about to get weird for June and July as well, I wonder if we should revisit our calendars? Thanks, Elisa On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:

Hi all,

Syd and I were talking today about how the last meeting went, and thinking that it was rather too much of him and me editing code and nobody else doing anything, which is perhaps boring and unhelpful. We thought we might try something else next time:

Assuming we can identify a relatively small issue that's isolated and looks fixable without major work, we thought we could ask everyone in the group ahead of time to do this:

- Fork the repo

- Create and test a fix in their fork

Then at the group meeting, everyone who thinks they've successfully solved the problem could walk the group through their solution. At the end, if we can agree that someone has a good solution with no bad side-effects, that person could issue a pull request.

That would give everyone a bit of experience working in branches and testing fixes, and give everyone more chance for participation in the meeting.

Does this sound like a good idea?

Cheers, Martin

On 2017-03-31 11:25 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

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We are planning to meet next Thu, 04-06 at 13:00Z, i.e.:

Thu 2017-04-06 06:00 PDT (poor Martin) Thu 2017-04-06 09:00 EDT Thu 2017-04-06 14:00 BST Thu 2017-04-06 15:00 CEST

Martin will be sending out details on 2 more issues we thought might be worth addressing. They are https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/246 and another (that I don't think has a ticket yet) which is an error in common/common_figures.xsl (roughly lines 226-240): the stylesheet makes the erroneous assumption that if there is a @width attribute, then there will be a @height attribute.

Moreover, there are still the agenda items from our last meeting, most of which are still to be addressed. They include:

* table review (http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Mapping_ODD_processing) - we still need rows for TEI ODD -> documentation * generation of PDF from within oXygen framework * stylesheet re-write project * re-working the Stylesheet/Test/ suite (see Martin's Test2/, which uses 'ant') * ticket: https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/227

I can try to be the one to establish a Google Hangout and invite people, but I have been remarkably unsuccessful at this in the past. So if anyone would like to volunteer ...

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Hi, great idea! I would appreciate more practice with forking and pulling. However, I wasn't bored and learned a lot during the last sessions. Concerning the schedule: I don't have fixed dates in the afternoon (CET) except on Tuesdays. Best, Martina -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org [mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org] Im Auftrag von Elisa Beshero-Bondar Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2017 17:57 An: tei-council@lists.tei-c.org Betreff: Re: [tei-council] co-operative stylesheet education session #8 I just realized that I skipped over the end-of-April/start-of-May meeting. As far as I know, I should be okay to attend on Thurs. May 4. I probably won't have had time to experiment much with code ahead of that meeting, however--it's the very end of my campus's semester and I'll just be emerging then from under a mountain of grading. For my part, Thurs. May 4 is a good moment to *begin* a forking and pulling experiment, and also probably just about the moment when I'll attend to my mountain of delayed action on TEI tickets. I realize you can't schedule these things around me, but I do like the idea of an active experimentation as the best way to learn one's way around the Stylesheets, and I really hope to participate. I wonder if anyone else's schedules are stacked like mine? Elisa On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:

Hi Council and Stylesheets crew-- I wish I'd been able to attend the last Stylesheets meeting--I've been learning much from you (Martin) and Syd in the preceding sessions, but I'll agree that the passive watching of two very active participants can only go so far. I like your idea to have us fork the Stylesheets repo, create fixes, and submit them by pull requests, since this will be a good way to encourage active learning.

Here's a problem for me: If we adhere to the current Stylesheets meeting schedule, I'm probably about to miss the *next* Stylesheets meeting, too (and possibly others of us will, as well), because of the STS conference hosted by MITH on Wed. May 31 - Fri. June 2. I'm actually scheduled to present on Thurs. June 1 at 9am EST, which I think is exactly when the next Stylesheets meeting is supposed to be, right? I don't really want to be missing these, and especially not two in a row, but I don't think I'll have much choice if we stick to the usual schedule.

Since this particular conference is likely a schedule handicap for others among us, and since scheduling is about to get weird for June and July as well, I wonder if we should revisit our calendars?

Thanks, Elisa

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:

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Hi all,

Syd and I were talking today about how the last meeting went, and thinking that it was rather too much of him and me editing code and nobody else doing anything, which is perhaps boring and unhelpful. We thought we might try something else next time:

Assuming we can identify a relatively small issue that's isolated and looks fixable without major work, we thought we could ask everyone in the group ahead of time to do this:

- Fork the repo

- Create and test a fix in their fork

Then at the group meeting, everyone who thinks they've successfully solved the problem could walk the group through their solution. At the end, if we can agree that someone has a good solution with no bad side-effects, that person could issue a pull request.

That would give everyone a bit of experience working in branches and testing fixes, and give everyone more chance for participation in the meeting.

Does this sound like a good idea?

Cheers, Martin

On 2017-03-31 11:25 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

...

We are planning to meet next Thu, 04-06 at 13:00Z, i.e.:

Thu 2017-04-06 06:00 PDT (poor Martin) Thu 2017-04-06 09:00 EDT Thu 2017-04-06 14:00 BST Thu 2017-04-06 15:00 CEST

Martin will be sending out details on 2 more issues we thought might be worth addressing. They are https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/246 and another (that I don't think has a ticket yet) which is an error in common/common_figures.xsl (roughly lines 226-240): the stylesheet makes the erroneous assumption that if there is a @width attribute, then there will be a @height attribute.

Moreover, there are still the agenda items from our last meeting, most of which are still to be addressed. They include:

* table review (http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Mapping_ODD_processing) - we still need rows for TEI ODD -> documentation * generation of PDF from within oXygen framework * stylesheet re-write project * re-working the Stylesheet/Test/ suite (see Martin's Test2/, which uses 'ant') * ticket: https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets/issues/227

I can try to be the one to establish a Google Hangout and invite people, but I have been remarkably unsuccessful at this in the past. So if anyone would like to volunteer ...

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[Some of you had been dropped off the recipient list for a few pieces of e-mail: the basic gist of previous conversation I am addressing here is that Elisa will not be able to make our Thu 06-01 meeting, and Martin indicated he is completely flexible as to which day of the week we meet, as he has "nothing going on at 6 in the morning. :-)"] We only have 2 more scheduled meetings: * Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z Personally, I'm teaching a TEI workshop on Thu 05-04, and we pushed the start time from 09:00 to 10:00 just to accomodate our meeting. I do not know if the host would be interested in starting at 09:00 if the opportunity arose. MITH is hosting the STS conference from Wed 31 May to Fri 02 Jun, which is why Elisa won't be able to make Thu 06-01. I have no problem with that date, but also have no issue trying to re-schedule. So, by show of hands, who will be able to make those two meetings, and who would prefer one or both get re-scheduled?

PS: I note Martina is likely to have a conflict on Tuesday, so if that is the case, what about Monday May 29? Elisa Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Elisa wrote:

Life doesn't get easier AFTER June 1 because of the DHSI. If people are willing to show hands of support in this, I wonder if we can simply move the second of the two Stylesheets meetings to Tuesday, May 30?

Thanks, Elisa

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On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

[Some of you had been dropped off the recipient list for a few pieces of e-mail: the basic gist of previous conversation I am addressing here is that Elisa will not be able to make our Thu 06-01 meeting, and Martin indicated he is completely flexible as to which day of the week we meet, as he has "nothing going on at 6 in the morning. :-)"]

We only have 2 more scheduled meetings:

* Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z

Personally, I'm teaching a TEI workshop on Thu 05-04, and we pushed the start time from 09:00 to 10:00 just to accomodate our meeting. I do not know if the host would be interested in starting at 09:00 if the opportunity arose.

MITH is hosting the STS conference from Wed 31 May to Fri 02 Jun, which is why Elisa won't be able to make Thu 06-01. I have no problem with that date, but also have no issue trying to re-schedule. So, by show of hands, who will be able to make those two meetings, and who would prefer one or both get re-scheduled? -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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* Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z Both original dates are ok for me. The currently discussed alternatives: * Tue 30 May —> no * Mon 29 May —> yes Best Peter

Am 20.04.2017 um 16:34 schrieb Hugh Cayless :

Raff and I will be at STS too, so I think June 1 is out for us. I've got nothing on May 30 right now, though I might possibly be traveling to College Park.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Elisa wrote:

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Life doesn't get easier AFTER June 1 because of the DHSI. If people are willing to show hands of support in this, I wonder if we can simply move the second of the two Stylesheets meetings to Tuesday, May 30?

Thanks, Elisa

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Typeset by hand on my iPad

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On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

[Some of you had been dropped off the recipient list for a few pieces of e-mail: the basic gist of previous conversation I am addressing here is that Elisa will not be able to make our Thu 06-01 meeting, and Martin indicated he is completely flexible as to which day of the week we meet, as he has "nothing going on at 6 in the morning. :-)"]

We only have 2 more scheduled meetings:

* Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z

Personally, I'm teaching a TEI workshop on Thu 05-04, and we pushed the start time from 09:00 to 10:00 just to accomodate our meeting. I do not know if the host would be interested in starting at 09:00 if the opportunity arose.

MITH is hosting the STS conference from Wed 31 May to Fri 02 Jun, which is why Elisa won't be able to make Thu 06-01. I have no problem with that date, but also have no issue trying to re-schedule. So, by show of hands, who will be able to make those two meetings, and who would prefer one or both get re-scheduled? -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Hello, May 4th is ok, June 1st is not, as mentioned. As I have a combination of travelling, guests, plus running around to get the conference rolling between May 24th and June 4th, I will likely skip that last session. Raff On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:40 AM, Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Hi,

May 30 is not possible for me, I'm ok with the other dates.

Martina

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Am 20.04.2017 um 22:47 schrieb Peter Stadler :

* Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z

Both original dates are ok for me.

The currently discussed alternatives: * Tue 30 May —> no * Mon 29 May —> yes

Best Peter

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Am 20.04.2017 um 16:34 schrieb Hugh Cayless :

Raff and I will be at STS too, so I think June 1 is out for us. I've got nothing on May 30 right now, though I might possibly be traveling to College Park.

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On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Elisa wrote:

Life doesn't get easier AFTER June 1 because of the DHSI. If people are willing to show hands of support in this, I wonder if we can simply move the second of the two Stylesheets meetings to Tuesday, May 30?

Thanks, Elisa

-- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

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On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:

[Some of you had been dropped off the recipient list for a few pieces of e-mail: the basic gist of previous conversation I am addressing here is that Elisa will not be able to make our Thu 06-01 meeting, and Martin indicated he is completely flexible as to which day of the week we meet, as he has "nothing going on at 6 in the morning. :-)"]

We only have 2 more scheduled meetings:

* Thu 04 May @ 13:00Z * Thu 01 Jun @ 13:00Z

Personally, I'm teaching a TEI workshop on Thu 05-04, and we pushed the start time from 09:00 to 10:00 just to accomodate our meeting. I do not know if the host would be interested in starting at 09:00 if the opportunity arose.

MITH is hosting the STS conference from Wed 31 May to Fri 02 Jun, which is why Elisa won't be able to make Thu 06-01. I have no problem with that date, but also have no issue trying to re-schedule. So, by show of hands, who will be able to make those two meetings, and who would prefer one or both get re-scheduled? -- tei-council mailing list tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Hi, tomorrow would work for me too. On Tuesday I teach until 16:30Z, but afterwards would be possible. Martina Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 27.05.2017 um 14:09 schrieb Syd Bauman :

On the Council conference call ~46 hours ago Elisa raised the issue of moving our next meeting (session #10, scheduled for Thu 06-01 13:00Z), as neither she nor Raff will be able to attend. There is no timeslot we would be able to find that will accomodate Raff, who will be very busy w/ STS. Mon 05-29 and Tue 05-30 were suggested, although Martina cannot make the latter. The former is a major holiday in the US, and I will be on duty with the ambulance, so only 50/50 I could make it on Mon (but I don't mind).

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