TEI Simple name poll

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Lou Burnard

25 Oct 2016 25 Oct '16

6:23 p.m.

When polling closed 15 minutes ago, 5 votes had been cast. This is only half the current membership of Council. I conclude that there is no strong desire amongst council members to express an opinion on the matter, which I persist in thinking suggests we would be ill-advised to change the status quo. Would it be a good idea to go with the majority figure (3 votes) when that represents the view of less than a third of the electorate? I think not. I am therefore going to assume this baby is still called TEI Simple, and intend to devote the little time left before it is integrated it into the next release to improving the examples, and checking that it works properly, rather than the (fairly daunting) task of changing its name everywhere. We also, may I remind you, need to make it more visible on the website, and integrate it into the oXygen framework.

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Hugh Cayless

25 Oct 25 Oct

6:31 p.m.

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Let's talk about it on Thursday, when we'll have more than 5 people in attendance. On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Lou Burnard wrote:

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When polling closed 15 minutes ago, 5 votes had been cast. This is only half the current membership of Council. I conclude that there is no strong desire amongst council members to express an opinion on the matter, which I persist in thinking suggests we would be ill-advised to change the status quo. Would it be a good idea to go with the majority figure (3 votes) when that represents the view of less than a third of the electorate? I think not. I am therefore going to assume this baby is still called TEI Simple, and intend to devote the little time left before it is integrated it into the next release to improving the examples, and checking that it works properly, rather than the (fairly daunting) task of changing its name everywhere. We also, may I remind you, need to make it more visible on the website, and integrate it into the oXygen framework.

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Lou Burnard

6:42 p.m.

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Sure, though I won't be able to contribute to that discussion. But all I am likely to say is (rolls eyes) ... WE NEED A DECISION. CHANGING THE NAME IS GOING TO INVOLVE A LOT OF CHANGES IN LOTS OF PLACES. On 25/10/16 17:31, Hugh Cayless wrote:

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Let's talk about it on Thursday, when we'll have more than 5 people in attendance.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Lou Burnard wrote:

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When polling closed 15 minutes ago, 5 votes had been cast. This is only half the current membership of Council. I conclude that there is no strong desire amongst council members to express an opinion on the matter, which I persist in thinking suggests we would be ill-advised to change the status quo. Would it be a good idea to go with the majority figure (3 votes) when that represents the view of less than a third of the electorate? I think not. I am therefore going to assume this baby is still called TEI Simple, and intend to devote the little time left before it is integrated it into the next release to improving the examples, and checking that it works properly, rather than the (fairly daunting) task of changing its name everywhere. We also, may I remind you, need to make it more visible on the website, and integrate it into the oXygen framework.

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Hugh Cayless

6:44 p.m.

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Agreed we need a decision. Where, other than the TEI Simple ODD, would we need to change stuff? What were the results of the poll, out of curiosity? On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Lou Burnard wrote:

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Sure, though I won't be able to contribute to that discussion. But all I am likely to say is (rolls eyes) ...

WE NEED A DECISION. CHANGING THE NAME IS GOING TO INVOLVE A LOT OF CHANGES IN LOTS OF PLACES.

On 25/10/16 17:31, Hugh Cayless wrote:

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Let's talk about it on Thursday, when we'll have more than 5 people in attendance.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Lou Burnard < lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

When polling closed 15 minutes ago, 5 votes had been cast. This is only

...
half the current membership of Council. I conclude that there is no strong desire amongst council members to express an opinion on the matter, which I persist in thinking suggests we would be ill-advised to change the status quo. Would it be a good idea to go with the majority figure (3 votes) when that represents the view of less than a third of the electorate? I think not. I am therefore going to assume this baby is still called TEI Simple, and intend to devote the little time left before it is integrated it into the next release to improving the examples, and checking that it works properly, rather than the (fairly daunting) task of changing its name everywhere. We also, may I remind you, need to make it more visible on the website, and integrate it into the oXygen framework.

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Lou Burnard

6:58 p.m.

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On 25/10/16 17:44, Hugh Cayless wrote:

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Agreed we need a decision. Where, other than the TEI Simple ODD, would we need to change stuff?

Well, maybe I am exaggerating. But I am thinking of the website, many peoples' teaching materials (not Council's responsibility, I know, but still), the oXygen folk, the eXist folk...

Raffaele Viglianti

6:46 p.m.

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Sorry i forgot to cast the vote. If it's not too late, I'm all for TEI Bookish. Raff On Oct 25, 2016 12:43 PM, "Lou Burnard" wrote:

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Sure, though I won't be able to contribute to that discussion. But all I am likely to say is (rolls eyes) ...

WE NEED A DECISION. CHANGING THE NAME IS GOING TO INVOLVE A LOT OF CHANGES IN LOTS OF PLACES.

On 25/10/16 17:31, Hugh Cayless wrote:

...
Let's talk about it on Thursday, when we'll have more than 5 people in attendance.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Lou Burnard < lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

When polling closed 15 minutes ago, 5 votes had been cast. This is only

...
half the current membership of Council. I conclude that there is no strong desire amongst council members to express an opinion on the matter, which I persist in thinking suggests we would be ill-advised to change the status quo. Would it be a good idea to go with the majority figure (3 votes) when that represents the view of less than a third of the electorate? I think not. I am therefore going to assume this baby is still called TEI Simple, and intend to devote the little time left before it is integrated it into the next release to improving the examples, and checking that it works properly, rather than the (fairly daunting) task of changing its name everywhere. We also, may I remind you, need to make it more visible on the website, and integrate it into the oXygen framework.

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Lou Burnard

6:52 p.m.

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I will let Hugh decide whether or not to count your vote. (I got into terrible trouble last time I tried to make the TEI follow an agreed electoral protocol) And in answer to Hugh's query: the votes cast so far (not including yours) were 3 for Bookish; and one each for Go, Print, and Simple. On 25/10/16 17:46, Raffaele Viglianti wrote:

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Sorry i forgot to cast the vote. If it's not too late, I'm all for TEI Bookish.

Raff

On Oct 25, 2016 12:43 PM, "Lou Burnard" wrote:

...
Sure, though I won't be able to contribute to that discussion. But all I am likely to say is (rolls eyes) ...

WE NEED A DECISION. CHANGING THE NAME IS GOING TO INVOLVE A LOT OF CHANGES IN LOTS OF PLACES.

On 25/10/16 17:31, Hugh Cayless wrote:

...
Let's talk about it on Thursday, when we'll have more than 5 people in attendance.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Lou Burnard < lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

When polling closed 15 minutes ago, 5 votes had been cast. This is only

...
half the current membership of Council. I conclude that there is no strong desire amongst council members to express an opinion on the matter, which I persist in thinking suggests we would be ill-advised to change the status quo. Would it be a good idea to go with the majority figure (3 votes) when that represents the view of less than a third of the electorate? I think not. I am therefore going to assume this baby is still called TEI Simple, and intend to devote the little time left before it is integrated it into the next release to improving the examples, and checking that it works properly, rather than the (fairly daunting) task of changing its name everywhere. We also, may I remind you, need to make it more visible on the website, and integrate it into the oXygen framework.

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Hugh Cayless

8:28 p.m.

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I don't see why votes shouldn't still count. I'd like us to make the best decision, and beyond not waffling much longer, I don't really care how we get there. I'm afraid I'm not much of a rule-follower. :-) I voted (a tad reluctantly) for TEI Print. If TEI Bookish is the consensus, I would happily change my vote. On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Lou Burnard wrote:

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I will let Hugh decide whether or not to count your vote. (I got into terrible trouble last time I tried to make the TEI follow an agreed electoral protocol)

And in answer to Hugh's query: the votes cast so far (not including yours) were 3 for Bookish; and one each for Go, Print, and Simple.

On 25/10/16 17:46, Raffaele Viglianti wrote:

...
Sorry i forgot to cast the vote. If it's not too late, I'm all for TEI Bookish.

Raff

On Oct 25, 2016 12:43 PM, "Lou Burnard" wrote:

Sure, though I won't be able to contribute to that discussion. But all I

...
am likely to say is (rolls eyes) ...

WE NEED A DECISION. CHANGING THE NAME IS GOING TO INVOLVE A LOT OF CHANGES IN LOTS OF PLACES.

On 25/10/16 17:31, Hugh Cayless wrote:

Let's talk about it on Thursday, when we'll have more than 5 people in

...
attendance.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Lou Burnard < lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

When polling closed 15 minutes ago, 5 votes had been cast. This is only

...
half the current membership of Council. I conclude that there is no strong desire amongst council members to express an opinion on the matter, which I persist in thinking suggests we would be ill-advised to change the status quo. Would it be a good idea to go with the majority figure (3 votes) when that represents the view of less than a third of the electorate? I think not. I am therefore going to assume this baby is still called TEI Simple, and intend to devote the little time left before it is integrated it into the next release to improving the examples, and checking that it works properly, rather than the (fairly daunting) task of changing its name everywhere. We also, may I remind you, need to make it more visible on the website, and integrate it into the oXygen framework.

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