Dear councillors, thanks for your responses, each interesting and informative in different ways! In the interest of full disclosure, I should explain that my original query was prompted by a request I received from a project here in France along the lines "we're planning to use xenoData in this particular way: are we mad, or is there a precedent?" Which led me to think of ways I might go about gathering data to answer the question in an informed way. (For the days when I -or anyone- knew personally or by repute a significant proportion of the world's TEI users are long since passed, if they ever existed). The answer, or a partial one, to this meta question seems to be not to rely on mailing lists, which tend to highlight only the salient and debatable, but rather to ask the TEI Pelican, which in its browsing of github repositories has stashed away a remarkably interesting dataset. If you have corpus linguist tendencies, as I do, you tend to think that what people actually do with the TEI is at least as interesting as speculating about what they ought to do (which is what most tutorial material does), or might do if we introduced yet another element. Anyway, more about this anon on my blog, though not until I have watered the tomatos. ________________________________ From: Janelle Jenstad Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 9:32 PM To: 'Peter Stadler' ; Lou Burnard Cc: 'TEI Council' Subject: RE: [Tei-council] xenoData users? Dear Lou, My students have used it in their TEI customizations. It is indeed a lovely tag and very useful if one is remediating encoded files that already have metadata (e.g., EEBO-TCP files). I keep thinking we should use it in Linked Early Modern Drama Online to capture the original Internet Shakespeare Editions metadata in the files we are remediating … but we haven’t done so yet. With good wishes, Janelle Janelle Jenstad, Associate Professor, Department of English, University of Victoriahttps://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/scene/ Director, Map of Early Modern Londonhttps://mapoflondon.uvic.ca/; Director, Linked Early Modern Drama Onlinehttps://lemdo.uvic.ca/ Co-Coordinating Editor, Digital Renaissance Editionshttps://digitalrenaissance.uvic.ca/ and the new Internet Shakespeare Editions Co-Applicant, The Endings Projecthttps://endings.uvic.ca/index.html Email: jenstad@uvic.camailto:jenstad@uvic.ca, lemdo@uvic.camailto:lemdo@uvic.ca, or london@uvic.camailto:london@uvic.ca From: Tei-council On Behalf Of Peter Stadler Sent: May 9, 2022 11:42 PM To: Lou Burnard Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] xenoData users? Notice: This message was sent from outside the University of Victoria email system. Please be cautious with links and sensitive information. Dear Lou, I also think it’s a lovely tag but haven’t used it in my projects yet. If I spot it in the wild, I’ll tell you :) Best Peter Am 08.05.2022 um 18:19 schrieb Lou Burnard mailto:lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk>: a few weeks ago i posted a query about usage of xenoData on tei-l and followed it up with a repeat on twitter. i was a bit surprised to receive absolutely zero response (full disclosure : i did get a reply from m.mueller but not to the question i asked) . so either no one is using this lovely tag or no one wants to admit to it. either of which seems somewhat of a problem. maybe, i thought, maybe the mandarins of the tei council know better? are any of you using it for real in a project?do you know any project which is? _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.orgmailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

There are projects I probably would have used it for, had it been available at the time, like the APIS data, which used a weird, MARC-inspired text format for its data (see https://github.com/papyri/idp.data/blob/master/APIS/berkeley/intake_files/be..., for example). But it doesn't seem worth it to go back and retro-convert it, and it's all in source control anyway. On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 10:52 AM Bauman, Syd wrote:

To be fair, though, you asked about DCMI or OAI markup inside <xenoData>. The only time I have used <xenoData> I tucked some MARCXML or MODS info in there. But it was not a “real project” so much as an experiment for one, and there are no vestiges of that experiment left on my disk, it seems. The WWP used to have a flat database of “reception items” (i.e., reviews) of works in our textbase. That metadata was extracted from the flat database for all files, and is now stored in a <xenoData> in each individual file. The format used inside <xenoData> is just a single xqj:json element which holds a series of name-value pairs. (See Women Writers in Review for the front-end.)

________________________________ a few weeks ago i posted a query about usage of xenoData on tei-l and followed it up with a repeat on twitter. i was a bit surprised to receive absolutely zero response (full disclosure : i did get a reply from m.mueller but not to the question i asked) . so either no one is using this lovely tag or no one wants to admit to it. either of which seems somewhat of a problem. maybe, i thought, maybe the mandarins of the tei council know better? are any of you using it for real in a project?do you know any project which is?

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