I've always disliked this, partly because I don't like the fonts (because they are defaults in some Adobe products so looks like we're just not trying... and they are owned by Adobe... etc.), and partly because I always forget to do (and sometimes how to do) precise what Lou suggests below when I install a new system. Perhaps we should move to using fonts that are available cleanly and easily across all platforms? (But you guys might know more about which fonts those are than I...) -James On 01/08/16 23:47, Hugh Cayless wrote:

I got them by unpacking the Deb packages and getting the fonts out of them, then installing them with Font Book. I can share the fonts when I'm back at my computer if you want.

Hugh

Sent from my phone.

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On Aug 1, 2016, at 18:12, Lou Burnard wrote:

A Mac user of my acquaintance is trying to use the TEI Stylesheet library command teitoslides, which converts TEI XML to LaTeX and then to PDF. He seems to have hit a problem that I don't know how to solve, namely that the Minion and MyriadPro fonts which the Stylesheets expect to be available by default, are not.

On my Ubuntu system, I just grab a copy of the opentype fonts and put them in the right place in /usr/share/fonts/ and Everything Just Works. But I haven't the faintest idea how to do the equivalent, if there is one, on a Mac.

Has anyone tried this? If you've ever tried to build the Guidelines PDF you must have hit the same problem, I think, since they expect you to have these fonts too.

Any advice gratefully received

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On 03/08/16 17:03, Lou Burnard wrote:

I disagree: these are really quite good fonts, from an aesthetic point of view (in my opinion), and they are easily available from many places. The problem with them is that they really only support Western European languages. So no Chinese, and no Old Church Slavonic. Which is annoying when you are about to teach a TEI course in Lithuania.

I'm not saying they aren't good fonts. Just that they are Adobe defaults and not easily available on all platforms. The lack of non-Western European Languages is a serious issue. I wasn't saying they are awful fonts. Just agreeing with http://practicaltypography.com/minion-alternatives.html when he suggests not using them because, as defaults, it implies we have not made a conscious font choice. (I'd say that coverage in Chinese and OCS probably trumps[1] aesthetics.)

But if we are looking for a replacement, has anyone got any views on the Droid fonts from Google? They are available under Apache2 licence, have good coverage and are not ugly.

No knowledge of them. What I want is us to use something that all of Mac/Win/Linux just has by default (or can _really_ easily install automagically), and has the widest unicode coverage possible. -James [1] I mean Trumps here in the older sense of 'surpasses' not the modern american political sense of 'blithers like a complete moron'.

On 03/08/16 16:34, James Cummings wrote:

...

I've always disliked this, partly because I don't like the fonts (because they are defaults in some Adobe products so looks like we're just not trying... and they are owned by Adobe... etc.), and partly because I always forget to do (and sometimes how to do) precise what Lou suggests below when I install a new system.

Perhaps we should move to using fonts that are available cleanly and easily across all platforms? (But you guys might know more about which fonts those are than I...)

-James

On 01/08/16 23:47, Hugh Cayless wrote:

...

I got them by unpacking the Deb packages and getting the fonts out of them, then installing them with Font Book. I can share the fonts when I'm back at my computer if you want.

Hugh

Sent from my phone.

...

On Aug 1, 2016, at 18:12, Lou Burnard wrote:

A Mac user of my acquaintance is trying to use the TEI Stylesheet library command teitoslides, which converts TEI XML to LaTeX and then to PDF. He seems to have hit a problem that I don't know how to solve, namely that the Minion and MyriadPro fonts which the Stylesheets expect to be available by default, are not.

On my Ubuntu system, I just grab a copy of the opentype fonts and put them in the right place in /usr/share/fonts/ and Everything Just Works. But I haven't the faintest idea how to do the equivalent, if there is one, on a Mac.

Has anyone tried this? If you've ever tried to build the Guidelines PDF you must have hit the same problem, I think, since they expect you to have these fonts too.

Any advice gratefully received

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