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Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at)

1 Oct 2019 1 Oct '19

12:11 p.m.

Dear all, I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members. Best, Martina

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Elisa

1 Oct 1 Oct

2:05 p.m.

Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Dear all,

I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members.

Best, Martina

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Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at)

2:11 p.m.

Hi Elisa, Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors. Best, Martina Von: Elisa Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 An: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) Cc: TEI Council Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edumailto:ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/ Typeset by hand on my iPad On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.atmailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> wrote: Dear all, I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members. Best, Martina _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.orgmailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Raffaele Viglianti

2:12 p.m.

I'm happy to help with mentoring On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 8:11 AM Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Hi Elisa,

Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors.

Best,

Martina

*Von:* Elisa *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 *An:* Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) < martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> *Cc:* TEI Council *Betreff:* Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members

Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for.

Elisa

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Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD

Director, Center for the Digital Text

Associate Professor of English

University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg

150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA

E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Dear all,

I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members.

Best,

Martina

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Elisa

2:16 p.m.

And I am happy to help with mentoring, too. When I spoke of distributing the tasks, I regularly teach students how to get stared with shell commands, git, and GitHub, and I suspect at least a couple of our new people may want an orientation in that. I wonder if it makes sense to divide up some of the orientation tasks among a group of mentors...just thinking out loud. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Raffaele Viglianti wrote:

I'm happy to help with mentoring

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On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 8:11 AM Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote: Hi Elisa,

Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors.

Best,

Martina

Von: Elisa Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 An: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) Cc: TEI Council Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members

Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for.

Elisa

--

Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD

Director, Center for the Digital Text

Associate Professor of English

University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg

150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA

E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Dear all,

I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members.

Best,

Martina

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Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger＠uni-graz.at)

2:42 p.m.

Good point. And I think we should collect and update our documents on “how to get started” (edit the guidelines, testing, etc.). It’s on the agenda for our next meeting. Best, Martina Von: Elisa Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:16 An: Raffaele Viglianti Cc: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) ; TEI Council Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members And I am happy to help with mentoring, too. When I spoke of distributing the tasks, I regularly teach students how to get stared with shell commands, git, and GitHub, and I suspect at least a couple of our new people may want an orientation in that. I wonder if it makes sense to divide up some of the orientation tasks among a group of mentors...just thinking out loud. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edumailto:ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/ Typeset by hand on my iPad On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Raffaele Viglianti mailto:raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com> wrote: I'm happy to help with mentoring On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 8:11 AM Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.atmailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> wrote: Hi Elisa, Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors. Best, Martina Von: Elisa mailto:ebbondar@gmail.com> Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 An: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.atmailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> Cc: TEI Council mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for. Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg 150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edumailto:ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/ Typeset by hand on my iPad On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.atmailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> wrote: Dear all, I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members. Best, Martina _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.orgmailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council _______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.orgmailto:Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council

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Hugh Cayless

3:40 p.m.

Absolutely! Fwiw, I'm happy to mentor also, though it sounds like we may have enough people already :-) H On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:42 AM Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Good point.

And I think we should collect and update our documents on “how to get started” (edit the guidelines, testing, etc.). It’s on the agenda for our next meeting.

Best,

Martina

*Von:* Elisa *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:16 *An:* Raffaele Viglianti *Cc:* Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) < martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>; TEI Council *Betreff:* Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members

And I am happy to help with mentoring, too. When I spoke of distributing the tasks, I regularly teach students how to get stared with shell commands, git, and GitHub, and I suspect at least a couple of our new people may want an orientation in that. I wonder if it makes sense to divide up some of the orientation tasks among a group of mentors...just thinking out loud.

Elisa

--

Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD

Director, Center for the Digital Text

Associate Professor of English

University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg

150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA

E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Raffaele Viglianti < raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm happy to help with mentoring

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 8:11 AM Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Hi Elisa,

Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors.

Best,

Martina

*Von:* Elisa *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 *An:* Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) < martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> *Cc:* TEI Council *Betreff:* Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members

Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for.

Elisa

--

Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD

Director, Center for the Digital Text

Associate Professor of English

University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg

150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA

E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Dear all,

I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members.

Best,

Martina

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Elisa Beshero-Bondar

4:14 p.m.

There are aspects of work on Council on which I'd personally like a more thorough briefing and discussion, and perhaps a TCW, and I'd submit that one area that needs work is an explanation to completely new people of: For me: Testing, updating local tests, updating expected results of tests: when does this need to happen? When is it best to build and test locally? What is the best way of going about it and what do I need to install on my computer to do local testing? * I realize this may seem very basic to most of us, and it's not as if I'm totally clueless about it, but I'd like a clear explanation of it somewhere because it's not a thing we do every day, and those of you who do this frequently just know it without having to look stuff up. (So I wind up relying on you without investigating because, well, you're there...until you are not!) So I think we can make a better on-ramp about all things to do with the technical aspects of testing. For complete beginners: How Council runs on GitHub. What you will need to know about GitHub to do work with Council * What happens when you make a push to the Guidelines repository * When to make pull requests, and wait, what even is a pull request. (Some of our new members will not know this and may be be embarrassed to ask.) Elisa On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM Hugh Cayless wrote:

Absolutely!

Fwiw, I'm happy to mentor also, though it sounds like we may have enough people already :-)

H

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:42 AM Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

...
Good point.

And I think we should collect and update our documents on “how to get started” (edit the guidelines, testing, etc.). It’s on the agenda for our next meeting.

Best,

Martina

*Von:* Elisa *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:16 *An:* Raffaele Viglianti *Cc:* Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) < martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>; TEI Council *Betreff:* Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members

And I am happy to help with mentoring, too. When I spoke of distributing the tasks, I regularly teach students how to get stared with shell commands, git, and GitHub, and I suspect at least a couple of our new people may want an orientation in that. I wonder if it makes sense to divide up some of the orientation tasks among a group of mentors...just thinking out loud.

Elisa

--

Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD

Director, Center for the Digital Text

Associate Professor of English

University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg

150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA

E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Raffaele Viglianti < raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm happy to help with mentoring

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 8:11 AM Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Hi Elisa,

Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors.

Best,

Martina

*Von:* Elisa *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 *An:* Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) < martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> *Cc:* TEI Council *Betreff:* Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members

Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for.

Elisa

--

Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD

Director, Center for the Digital Text

Associate Professor of English

University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg

150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA

E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Dear all,

I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members.

Best,

Martina

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Elisa Beshero-Bondar

4:21 p.m.

PS: I'm reviewing https://github.com/TEIC/Documentation/blob/master/TCW/testing_and_building.x... for a moment just to see if I can identify what might need work here. Elisa On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 10:14 AM Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:

There are aspects of work on Council on which I'd personally like a more thorough briefing and discussion, and perhaps a TCW, and I'd submit that one area that needs work is an explanation to completely new people of:

For me: Testing, updating local tests, updating expected results of tests: when does this need to happen? When is it best to build and test locally? What is the best way of going about it and what do I need to install on my computer to do local testing? * I realize this may seem very basic to most of us, and it's not as if I'm totally clueless about it, but I'd like a clear explanation of it somewhere because it's not a thing we do every day, and those of you who do this frequently just know it without having to look stuff up. (So I wind up relying on you without investigating because, well, you're there...until you are not!) So I think we can make a better on-ramp about all things to do with the technical aspects of testing.

For complete beginners: How Council runs on GitHub. What you will need to know about GitHub to do work with Council * What happens when you make a push to the Guidelines repository * When to make pull requests, and wait, what even is a pull request. (Some of our new members will not know this and may be be embarrassed to ask.)

Elisa

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 9:40 AM Hugh Cayless wrote:

...
Absolutely!

Fwiw, I'm happy to mentor also, though it sounds like we may have enough people already :-)

H

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:42 AM Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

...
Good point.

And I think we should collect and update our documents on “how to get started” (edit the guidelines, testing, etc.). It’s on the agenda for our next meeting.

Best,

Martina

*Von:* Elisa *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:16 *An:* Raffaele Viglianti *Cc:* Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) < martina.scholger@uni-graz.at>; TEI Council *Betreff:* Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members

And I am happy to help with mentoring, too. When I spoke of distributing the tasks, I regularly teach students how to get stared with shell commands, git, and GitHub, and I suspect at least a couple of our new people may want an orientation in that. I wonder if it makes sense to divide up some of the orientation tasks among a group of mentors...just thinking out loud.

Elisa

--

Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD

Director, Center for the Digital Text

Associate Professor of English

University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg

150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA

E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Raffaele Viglianti < raffaeleviglianti@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm happy to help with mentoring

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 8:11 AM Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Hi Elisa,

Oh sorry, what I wanted to say is that we need three mentors.

Best,

Martina

*Von:* Elisa *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 14:05 *An:* Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) < martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> *Cc:* TEI Council *Betreff:* Re: [Tei-council] Mentoring new Council members

Martina— Do you think it best for one Council member to mentor all three? That would seem to require a mentoring program rather than something more informal...it may be a bit daunting for one to take on mentoring three people. Can we maybe put it on the Council agenda to discuss how best to distribute and plan a mentoring process? I want to help mentor but not sure I would do a good job of it with three people to watch out for.

Elisa

--

Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD

Director, Center for the Digital Text

Associate Professor of English

University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg

150 Finoli Drive, Greensburg, PA 15601 USA

E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu | Development site: http://newtfire.org

Typeset by hand on my iPad

On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Scholger, Martina ( martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) wrote:

Dear all,

I wanted to ask who is willing to serve as a mentor to our three new Council members.

Best,

Martina

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-- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu Development site: http://newtfire.org

-- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu Development site: http://newtfire.org

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Syd Bauman

4:30 p.m.

More than happy to mentor someone. (Sorry so late -- no internet connection since I left work yesterday.)-:

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