As most of you will have noticed, over the weekend Peter quite rightly added a new section to the Header chapter describing correspDesc, along with associated ODDs to implement the proposals. I feel very guilty for not having found time to feedback suggestions for the new text (which I promised to do months ago).,.. but here they are now! I haven't checked the following in yet, but am happy to do so. As the section is quite short, I am just pasting it into this message. We're all grown ups here and can cope with a few TEI tags, right? My revisions are mostly to enlarge and make a bit more explicit what the examples are doing, plus a few other things changed for conformity with house style. I have however reordered the original, putting correspContext first, since it is simpler and shorter than the rest and I didn't want to introduce new subsections. I am not certain that I've properly understood the last and first examples, so please read my rewording carefully! -------- <div type="div3" xml:id="HD44CD"> <head>Correspondence Description</head> <p>The <gi>correspDesc</gi> element is used within the <gi>profileDesc</gi> element to provide detailed correspondence-specific metadata, concerning in particular the communicative aspects (sending, receiving, forwarding etc.) associated with acts of of correspondence. </p> <p>This information is intended to complement the description of the objects recording correspondence activities (such as letters), typically provided by the <gi>sourceDesc</gi> element. <specList> <specDesc key="correspDesc"/> </specList> </p> <p>The <gi>correspDesc</gi> element contains the elements <gi>correspAction</gi> and <gi>correspContext</gi>, describing the actions identified and the context in which the correspondence occurs respectively. <specList> <specDesc key="correspAction" atts="type"/> <specDesc key="correspContext"/> </specList> </p> <p>Acts of correspondence typically do not occur in isolation from each other. The <gi>correspContext</gi> element is used to group references relevant to the item of correspondence being described, typically to other items such as the item to which it is a reply, or the item which replies to it: <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspContext> <ref type="replyTo" target="#CLF0102">Previous letter of Chamisso to de La Foye: 16 January 1807</ref> <ref type="replyFrom" target="#CLF0104">Next letter of Chamisso to de La Foye: 07 May 1810</ref> </correspContext> </egXML> </p> <p>Many types of correspondence action may be distinguished. The <att>type</att> attribut should be used to indicate the type of action being documented, using values such as those suggested above. </p> <p>The following basic example uses <gi>correspAction</gi> to describe the sending of a letter by Adelbert von Chamisso from Vertus at 29 January 1807 to Louis de La Foye at Caen. The date of reception is unknown: <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspAction type="sending"> <persName>Adelbert von Chamisso</persName> <placeName>Vertus</placeName> <date when="1807-01-29">29 January 1807</date> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving"> <persName>Louis de La Foye</persName> <placeName>Caen</placeName> <date>unknown</date> </correspAction> </egXML> </p> <p>Several senders, recipients, etc. can be specified for a single <gi>correspAction</gi> if the action is considered to apply to them all acting as a single group. In the following example three people are considered to have received the communication. <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspAction type="receiving"> <persName>Hermann Hesse</persName> <persName>Ninon Hesse</persName> <placeName>Montagnola</placeName> </correspAction> </egXML> </p> <!-- this example looks a bit unreal: why not give one with proper names? --> <p>The <att>subtype</att> attribute may be used to further distinguish types of action. In the following example, an e-mail is sent to two people directly and to a third by blind copy (<term>cc</term>). <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspAction type="sending"> <persName>PN0001</persName> <date when="1999-06-02">Wed, 02 Jun 1999</date> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving" subtype="to"> <persName>PN0002</persName> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving" subtype="to"> <persName>PN0003</persName> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving" subtype="cc"> <persName>PN0004</persName> </correspAction> </egXML> </p> <p>The same person may often be associated with many actions. For example, it will often be the case that the author and sender of a message are identical, and that many individual letters will need to be associated with the same person. The <att>sameAs</att> attribute defined in section <ptr target="#SAIE"/> may be used to indicate that the same name applies to many actions. Its value will usually be the identifier of an element defining the person or name concerned, which is supplied elsewhere in the document. <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspAction type="sending"> <name sameAs="#author"/> </correspAction> </egXML> <!-- example needs expansion to include definition for #author --> </p> <p>It is assumed that each correspondence action applies to a single act of communication. It may however be the case that the same physical object is involved in several such acts, if for example person A sends a letter to person B, who then annotates it and sends it on to person C, or if persons A and B both use the same document to convey quite different messages. In such situations, multiple <gi>correspDesc</gi> elements should be supplied, one for each communication. In the following example, the same document contains distinct messages, sent by two different people. to the same destination: <gi>correspDesc</gi> is used for each separately: <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspDesc xml:id="message1"> <correspAction type="sending"> <persName>John Gneisenau Neihardt</persName> <placeName>Branson (Montgomery)</placeName> <date>17 December 1932</date> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving"> <persName xml:id="JTH">Julius Temple House</persName> <placeName>New York</placeName> </correspAction> </correspDesc> <correspDesc xml:id="message2"> <correspAction type="sending"> <persName>Enid Neihardt</persName> <placeName>Branson (Montgomery)</placeName> <date>17 December 1932</date> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving"> <persName sameAs="#JTH"/> <placeName>New York</placeName> </correspAction> </correspDesc> </egXML> <!-- This example is very strange! Have I understood it correctly? And is "Julius Temple House" really a person's name rather than that of an org? --> </p>
Dear Lou, many thanks for your input! I think you got the examples right and should simply commit the revision. A few things need to be fixed, though: § „Several senders …“: "three people are considered“ must read „two people are considered“ § "The <att>subtype</att> attribute may be used“: "and to a third by blind copy“ must read "and to a third by carbon copy“ BTW, this email example is a real one, taken from the Corpus of Business English Correspondence where names are made anonymous due to privacy protection. I see the point though and if others have problems, too, we can easily replace this example. Your comments: * "example needs expansion to include definition for #author“: How much context do you think is necessary? Would that be sufficient? <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <author xml:id="author">Name of the author</author> … <correspAction type="sending"> <name sameAs="#author"/> </correspAction> </egXML> * "This example is very strange!“: Yes, I think a more common example for several <correspDesc> connected to one physical object would be an anthology of letters. Shall we replace the last example? Best Peter
Am 09.02.2015 um 15:40 schrieb Lou Burnard
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<div type="div3" xml:id="HD44CD"> <head>Correspondence Description</head> <p>The <gi>correspDesc</gi> element is used within the <gi>profileDesc</gi> element to provide detailed correspondence-specific metadata, concerning in particular the communicative aspects (sending, receiving, forwarding etc.) associated with acts of of correspondence. </p> <p>This information is intended to complement the description of the objects recording correspondence activities (such as letters), typically provided by the <gi>sourceDesc</gi> element. <specList> <specDesc key="correspDesc"/> </specList> </p> <p>The <gi>correspDesc</gi> element contains the elements <gi>correspAction</gi> and <gi>correspContext</gi>, describing the actions identified and the context in which the correspondence occurs respectively. <specList> <specDesc key="correspAction" atts="type"/> <specDesc key="correspContext"/> </specList> </p> <p>Acts of correspondence typically do not occur in isolation from each other. The <gi>correspContext</gi> element is used to group references relevant to the item of correspondence being described, typically to other items such as the item to which it is a reply, or the item which replies to it: <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspContext> <ref type="replyTo" target="#CLF0102">Previous letter of Chamisso to de La Foye: 16 January 1807</ref> <ref type="replyFrom" target="#CLF0104">Next letter of Chamisso to de La Foye: 07 May 1810</ref> </correspContext> </egXML> </p> <p>Many types of correspondence action may be distinguished. The <att>type</att> attribut should be used to indicate the type of action being documented, using values such as those suggested above. </p> <p>The following basic example uses <gi>correspAction</gi> to describe the sending of a letter by Adelbert von Chamisso from Vertus at 29 January 1807 to Louis de La Foye at Caen. The date of reception is unknown: <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspAction type="sending"> <persName>Adelbert von Chamisso</persName> <placeName>Vertus</placeName> <date when="1807-01-29">29 January 1807</date> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving"> <persName>Louis de La Foye</persName> <placeName>Caen</placeName> <date>unknown</date> </correspAction> </egXML> </p> <p>Several senders, recipients, etc. can be specified for a single <gi>correspAction</gi> if the action is considered to apply to them all acting as a single group. In the following example three people are considered to have received the communication. <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspAction type="receiving"> <persName>Hermann Hesse</persName> <persName>Ninon Hesse</persName> <placeName>Montagnola</placeName> </correspAction> </egXML> </p> <!-- this example looks a bit unreal: why not give one with proper names? --> <p>The <att>subtype</att> attribute may be used to further distinguish types of action. In the following example, an e-mail is sent to two people directly and to a third by blind copy (<term>cc</term>). <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspAction type="sending"> <persName>PN0001</persName> <date when="1999-06-02">Wed, 02 Jun 1999</date> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving" subtype="to"> <persName>PN0002</persName> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving" subtype="to"> <persName>PN0003</persName> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving" subtype="cc"> <persName>PN0004</persName> </correspAction> </egXML> </p> <p>The same person may often be associated with many actions. For example, it will often be the case that the author and sender of a message are identical, and that many individual letters will need to be associated with the same person. The <att>sameAs</att> attribute defined in section <ptr target="#SAIE"/> may be used to indicate that the same name applies to many actions. Its value will usually be the identifier of an element defining the person or name concerned, which is supplied elsewhere in the document. <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspAction type="sending"> <name sameAs="#author"/> </correspAction> </egXML> <!-- example needs expansion to include definition for #author --> </p> <p>It is assumed that each correspondence action applies to a single act of communication. It may however be the case that the same physical object is involved in several such acts, if for example person A sends a letter to person B, who then annotates it and sends it on to person C, or if persons A and B both use the same document to convey quite different messages. In such situations, multiple <gi>correspDesc</gi> elements should be supplied, one for each communication. In the following example, the same document contains distinct messages, sent by two different people. to the same destination: <gi>correspDesc</gi> is used for each separately: <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <correspDesc xml:id="message1"> <correspAction type="sending"> <persName>John Gneisenau Neihardt</persName> <placeName>Branson (Montgomery)</placeName> <date>17 December 1932</date> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving"> <persName xml:id="JTH">Julius Temple House</persName> <placeName>New York</placeName> </correspAction> </correspDesc> <correspDesc xml:id="message2"> <correspAction type="sending"> <persName>Enid Neihardt</persName> <placeName>Branson (Montgomery)</placeName> <date>17 December 1932</date> </correspAction> <correspAction type="receiving"> <persName sameAs="#JTH"/> <placeName>New York</placeName> </correspAction> </correspDesc> </egXML> <!-- This example is very strange! Have I understood it correctly? And is "Julius Temple House" really a person's name rather than that of an org? --> </p>
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On 11/02/15 15:08, Peter Stadler wrote:
BTW, this email example is a real one, taken from the Corpus of Business English Correspondence where names are made anonymous due to privacy protection. I see the point though and if others have problems, too, we can easily replace this example.
It would be good to have a different example certainly. One cannot have too many! By the way, for full P5 goodness, you need to provide a bibliographic reference for the source of your examples in the file BIB-bibliography.xml, with a link to it from the <egXML>
Your comments: * "example needs expansion to include definition for #author“: How much context do you think is necessary? Would that be sufficient? <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples"> <author xml:id="author">Name of the author</author> … <correspAction type="sending"> <name sameAs="#author"/> </correspAction> </egXML>
Better, certainly.
* "This example is very strange!“: Yes, I think a more common example for several <correspDesc> connected to one physical object would be an anthology of letters. Shall we replace the last example?
Could move this example to the <elementSpec> and add a simpler one in the chapter, maybe? You didn't answer my question about "Julius Temple House" !
Am 11.02.2015 um 16:15 schrieb Lou Burnard
: You didn't answer my question about "Julius Temple House" ! It’s indeed a person: http://viaf.org/viaf/66392770
Best Peter
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