web site / board ?
Who is currently responsible for the TEI website? I assume someone is! I thought it might be the Board, but the website does not currently provide any information on Board meetings since 2020. By dint of snooping around on the mailing lists, I discovered that on the 17th inst. the Board had a meeting at which maintenance of the website did feature as an agenda item. But I have no idea beyond that because the minutes of Board meetings have not been visible for the last 3 years, as aforesaid. I ask because I am trying to put together an archive of TEI Council minutes, and am having a lot of trouble locating anything but Wordpress pages. I don't mind converting these to a better archival format (hmm, how about TEI?) but for some reason curl won't play ball with the website (or vice versa). best wishes Lou
Hi Lou,
Well, it's complicated, and Wordpress under the hood is an awful mess. I
was just behind the editing dashboard to post Council's March minutes, saw
a long list of Board minutes there, and wondered to myself whether Board
minutes were still supposed to be public based on the evident history of
their publication. I am newly attending Board meetings and can assure you
there are minutes, and good ones, but I wonder if any rules have changed on
their disclosure?
I can take up your question with Diane Jakacki, whom I see regularly on the
Slack Board channel, but I wonder if anyone with a long institutional
memory here recalls any policy changes around/after October 15, 2020?
Now, we're hoping to remove the site from Wordpress and toward a nice
static solution which should permit a fresh attention to the manner by
which Board and Council minutes are shared. So your message may be timely.
I'll await another response here before I prod Diane, who is herself newly
chairing Board: If Board enacted a policy to go quiet after October 2020,
that might be good to know first.
Cheers,
Elisa
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:45 AM Lou Burnard
Who is currently responsible for the TEI website? I assume someone is!
I thought it might be the Board, but the website does not currently provide any information on Board meetings since 2020. By dint of snooping around on the mailing lists, I discovered that on the 17th inst. the Board had a meeting at which maintenance of the website did feature as an agenda item. But I have no idea beyond that because the minutes of Board meetings have not been visible for the last 3 years, as aforesaid.
I ask because I am trying to put together an archive of TEI Council minutes, and am having a lot of trouble locating anything but Wordpress pages. I don't mind converting these to a better archival format (hmm, how about TEI?) but for some reason curl won't play ball with the website (or vice versa).
best wishes
Lou
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Thanks for the quick response Elisa. "Wordpress under the hood is an awful
mess." ... you aint just whistling dixie, as I believe you chaps like to
say. But at least I have now fifgured out why it wasn't working with curl
(bizarre random redirection), so I am now the proud owner of a stash of web
pages purporting to be the full historical record of the Council's
deliberations to date, which counts as progress, of a sort.
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 22:29, Elisa Beshero-Bondar
Hi Lou, Well, it's complicated, and Wordpress under the hood is an awful mess. I was just behind the editing dashboard to post Council's March minutes, saw a long list of Board minutes there, and wondered to myself whether Board minutes were still supposed to be public based on the evident history of their publication. I am newly attending Board meetings and can assure you there are minutes, and good ones, but I wonder if any rules have changed on their disclosure?
I can take up your question with Diane Jakacki, whom I see regularly on the Slack Board channel, but I wonder if anyone with a long institutional memory here recalls any policy changes around/after October 15, 2020?
Now, we're hoping to remove the site from Wordpress and toward a nice static solution which should permit a fresh attention to the manner by which Board and Council minutes are shared. So your message may be timely. I'll await another response here before I prod Diane, who is herself newly chairing Board: If Board enacted a policy to go quiet after October 2020, that might be good to know first.
Cheers, Elisa
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:45 AM Lou Burnard
wrote: Who is currently responsible for the TEI website? I assume someone is!
I thought it might be the Board, but the website does not currently provide any information on Board meetings since 2020. By dint of snooping around on the mailing lists, I discovered that on the 17th inst. the Board had a meeting at which maintenance of the website did feature as an agenda item. But I have no idea beyond that because the minutes of Board meetings have not been visible for the last 3 years, as aforesaid.
I ask because I am trying to put together an archive of TEI Council minutes, and am having a lot of trouble locating anything but Wordpress pages. I don't mind converting these to a better archival format (hmm, how about TEI?) but for some reason curl won't play ball with the website (or vice versa).
best wishes
Lou
_______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council
-- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org
Anyway, I believe the website is, indeed, Board's responsibility, but
Council members have more continuity amongst ourselves for publishing our
minutes. So we tend to stay in our lane and post them. But I also
understand that all of us (Council and Board) can update the website if we
wish. I think that means we're in a state of uncertainty when the Board
undergoes a transition, and our Infrastructure Group (consisting of some
Council and Board members) should be managing the transition to a new
website--soon, we hope!
I think I will just ask Diane privately about this to see if she knows
anything--particularly about whether the Board minutes should be publicized
like Council minutes.
By the way, I wasn't familiar with the phrase "you ain't just whistling
dixie" though I'm sure I've heard it before, sometime long ago
somewhere--so I had to resort to Googling it. For anyone curious like I
was: https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/You+ain%27t+just+whistlin%27+Dixie
Not whistling for sure,
Elisa
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM Lou Burnard
Thanks for the quick response Elisa. "Wordpress under the hood is an awful mess." ... you aint just whistling dixie, as I believe you chaps like to say. But at least I have now fifgured out why it wasn't working with curl (bizarre random redirection), so I am now the proud owner of a stash of web pages purporting to be the full historical record of the Council's deliberations to date, which counts as progress, of a sort.
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 22:29, Elisa Beshero-Bondar
wrote: Hi Lou, Well, it's complicated, and Wordpress under the hood is an awful mess. I was just behind the editing dashboard to post Council's March minutes, saw a long list of Board minutes there, and wondered to myself whether Board minutes were still supposed to be public based on the evident history of their publication. I am newly attending Board meetings and can assure you there are minutes, and good ones, but I wonder if any rules have changed on their disclosure?
I can take up your question with Diane Jakacki, whom I see regularly on the Slack Board channel, but I wonder if anyone with a long institutional memory here recalls any policy changes around/after October 15, 2020?
Now, we're hoping to remove the site from Wordpress and toward a nice static solution which should permit a fresh attention to the manner by which Board and Council minutes are shared. So your message may be timely. I'll await another response here before I prod Diane, who is herself newly chairing Board: If Board enacted a policy to go quiet after October 2020, that might be good to know first.
Cheers, Elisa
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:45 AM Lou Burnard < lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Who is currently responsible for the TEI website? I assume someone is!
I thought it might be the Board, but the website does not currently provide any information on Board meetings since 2020. By dint of snooping around on the mailing lists, I discovered that on the 17th inst. the Board had a meeting at which maintenance of the website did feature as an agenda item. But I have no idea beyond that because the minutes of Board meetings have not been visible for the last 3 years, as aforesaid.
I ask because I am trying to put together an archive of TEI Council minutes, and am having a lot of trouble locating anything but Wordpress pages. I don't mind converting these to a better archival format (hmm, how about TEI?) but for some reason curl won't play ball with the website (or vice versa).
best wishes
Lou
_______________________________________________ Tei-council mailing list Tei-council@lists.tei-c.org http://lists.lists.tei-c.org/mailman/listinfo/tei-council
-- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org
-- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Program Chair of Digital Media, Arts, and Technology | Professor of Digital Humanities | Director of the Digital Humanities Lab at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College Development site: https://newtfire.org
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Elisa Beshero-Bondar
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Lou Burnard
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Lou Burnard