Re: [tei-council] chaining for idiots
Quick skim, looks good. Might you consider a section at the top for "Who Is This For?" mentioning that the idiots in e question are likely to be those who are sophisticatedly writing their own ODD schemas that variants of existing ODDs?
I.e. if you are just looking to customise TEI this isn't something you need to know, it is for a whole different class of idiot. Like me, Hugh, SusanneH, etc.
James
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On 22 Oct 2016 20:47, Lou Burnard
Lou— I just read through it and thought it was clear, concise, and helpful with the TEI-bare examples. You’re probably aware of a couple of unfinished patches: Is the link to the Deutsches Text Archiv ODD (linked as “I don’t know where”) actually this? http://media.dwds.de/dta/media/schema/basisformat.odd http://media.dwds.de/dta/media/schema/basisformat.odd There’s a spot where you say "you should see a list of elements like this:” and then we never see the list of elements. I agree with James—it’ll help to indicate “Who is this for?”—but one further note: Maybe with very little addition this could serve as an introduction to the Stylesheets for those who’ve not experimented with them before? Hope this helps polish it up, Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/
On Oct 22, 2016, at 6:20 PM, James Cummings
wrote: Quick skim, looks good. Might you consider a section at the top for "Who Is This For?" mentioning that the idiots in e question are likely to be those who are sophisticatedly writing their own ODD schemas that variants of existing ODDs?
I.e. if you are just looking to customise TEI this isn't something you need to know, it is for a whole different class of idiot. Like me, Hugh, SusanneH, etc.
James
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On 22 Oct 2016 20:47, Lou Burnard
wrote: As promised, here's an initial draft for a tutorial on how to chain ODDs together. Thanks to James and Hugh for patient and helpful input during its composition. No thanks at all to SNCF for causing me to lose half of the first draft by braking suddenly on the train here on Friday. But above all thanks to everyone on Council who takes time to give it a quick read and makes suggestions for topics as yet uncovered, or covered inadequately! readable (ish) version: http://teic.github.io/TCW/howtoChain.html
source : https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TEIC/TEI/dev/Documents/pureODD/howtoChain....
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Thanks for the comments Elisa and glad you found it comprehensible if not comprehensive. I don't envisage it as being much of an introduction for stylesheets users though ... That would be quite a major expansion. I think of it as being one of a small number of non threatening well focussed "how to" guides, like the one I posted the other day on how to purify an odd. It would be nice to see another one on for example how to use the style bear to customise your xslt transform, though that does sort of exist already. Sent from my Honor Mobile -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [tei-council] chaining for idiots From: Elisa Beshero-Bondar To: tei-council@lists.tei-c.org CC: Lou— I just read through it and thought it was clear, concise, and helpful with the TEI-bare examples. You’re probably aware of a couple of unfinished patches: Is the link to the Deutsches Text Archiv ODD (linked as “I don’t know where”) actually this? http://media.dwds.de/dta/media/schema/basisformat.odd http://media.dwds.de/dta/media/schema/basisformat.odd There’s a spot where you say "you should see a list of elements like this:” and then we never see the list of elements. I agree with James—it’ll help to indicate “Who is this for?”—but one further note: Maybe with very little addition this could serve as an introduction to the Stylesheets for those who’ve not experimented with them before? Hope this helps polish it up, Elisa -- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/
On Oct 22, 2016, at 6:20 PM, James Cummings
wrote: Quick skim, looks good. Might you consider a section at the top for "Who Is This For?" mentioning that the idiots in e question are likely to be those who are sophisticatedly writing their own ODD schemas that variants of existing ODDs?
I.e. if you are just looking to customise TEI this isn't something you need to know, it is for a whole different class of idiot. Like me, Hugh, SusanneH, etc.
James
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On 22 Oct 2016 20:47, Lou Burnard
wrote: As promised, here's an initial draft for a tutorial on how to chain ODDs together. Thanks to James and Hugh for patient and helpful input during its composition. No thanks at all to SNCF for causing me to lose half of the first draft by braking suddenly on the train here on Friday. But above all thanks to everyone on Council who takes time to give it a quick read and makes suggestions for topics as yet uncovered, or covered inadequately! readable (ish) version: http://teic.github.io/TCW/howtoChain.html
source : https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TEIC/TEI/dev/Documents/pureODD/howtoChain....
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Lou-- Of course it doesn't really introduce them in the sense of surveying
them and explaining what each is for and what they all do--so I should
clarify: As I was reading this admirably concise and clear document you've
written, I was thinking that chaining ODDs might be a meaningful entrance
to the Land of Stylesheets, though it's but one way into a giant labyrinth
of many.
Anyway, maybe lots of little tutorials adapted to specific purposes are
easier to write and for our users to read! (And maybe, similarly, lots of
little ODDs show us more than one ODD to rule them all...)
Elisa
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 6:12 AM, Lou Burnard
Thanks for the comments Elisa and glad you found it comprehensible if not comprehensive. I don't envisage it as being much of an introduction for stylesheets users though ... That would be quite a major expansion. I think of it as being one of a small number of non threatening well focussed "how to" guides, like the one I posted the other day on how to purify an odd. It would be nice to see another one on for example how to use the style bear to customise your xslt transform, though that does sort of exist already. Sent from my Honor Mobile
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [tei-council] chaining for idiots From: Elisa Beshero-Bondar To: tei-council@lists.tei-c.org CC:
Lou— I just read through it and thought it was clear, concise, and helpful with the TEI-bare examples. You’re probably aware of a couple of unfinished patches: Is the link to the Deutsches Text Archiv ODD (linked as “I don’t know where”) actually this? http://media.dwds.de/dta/ media/schema/basisformat.odd <http://media.dwds.de/dta/ media/schema/basisformat.odd>
There’s a spot where you say "you should see a list of elements like this:” and then we never see the list of elements. I agree with James—it’ll help to indicate “Who is this for?”—but one further note: Maybe with very little addition this could serve as an introduction to the Stylesheets for those who’ve not experimented with them before?
Hope this helps polish it up, Elisa
-- Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division 150 Finoli Drive Greensburg, PA 15601 USA E-mail: ebb8@pitt.edu mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu Development site: http://newtfire.org http://newtfire.org/
On Oct 22, 2016, at 6:20 PM, James Cummings
wrote: Quick skim, looks good. Might you consider a section at the top for "Who Is This For?" mentioning that the idiots in e question are likely to be those who are sophisticatedly writing their own ODD schemas that variants of existing ODDs?
I.e. if you are just looking to customise TEI this isn't something you need to know, it is for a whole different class of idiot. Like me, Hugh, SusanneH, etc.
James
-- Dr James Cummings, Academic IT Services, University of Oxford
On 22 Oct 2016 20:47, Lou Burnard
wrote: As promised, here's an initial draft for a tutorial on how to chain ODDs together. Thanks to James and Hugh for patient and helpful input during its composition. No thanks at all to SNCF for causing me to lose half of the first draft by braking suddenly on the train here on Friday. But above all thanks to everyone on Council who takes time to give it a quick read and makes suggestions for topics as yet uncovered, or covered inadequately! readable (ish) version: http://teic.github.io/TCW/howtoChain.html
source : https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TEIC/TEI/dev/Documents/ pureODD/howtoChain.xml
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150 Finoli Drive
Greensburg, PA 15601 USA
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