Dear all, I think we can move on with the ticket 505 „redefine <msPart>“. A I read the responses on TEI-L, there is a majority in favor of widening the semantics of <msPart> to include fragments. The related issue #661 concerned with empty content of <msIdentifier> (or to make it optional) seems to get rejected, in contrast. So, we need to alter the description of <msPart> as well as some prose as explained in [1]. Concerning examples, I can provide a 19th century letter … Stefanie, would you like to go on and implement those changes? Best Peter [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bpBPughQp5sOoB13iTMHMeRd88Mjv12_eGZiQXY-...
The general workaround for #661 is to provide an msName, right? Which I think is ok. In some cases the encoder might have to come up with a name, but I suspect that in most cases one will already exist, or there will be a formalism for generating one.
On Mar 17, 2015, at 6:00 , Peter Stadler
wrote: Dear all,
I think we can move on with the ticket 505 „redefine <msPart>“. A I read the responses on TEI-L, there is a majority in favor of widening the semantics of <msPart> to include fragments. The related issue #661 concerned with empty content of <msIdentifier> (or to make it optional) seems to get rejected, in contrast.
So, we need to alter the description of <msPart> as well as some prose as explained in [1]. Concerning examples, I can provide a 19th century letter …
Stefanie, would you like to go on and implement those changes?
Best Peter
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Am 17.03.2015 um 11:41 schrieb Hugh Cayless
: The general workaround for #661 is to provide an msName, right? Which I think is ok. In some cases the encoder might have to come up with a name, but I suspect that in most cases one will already exist, or there will be a formalism for generating one. Yes, that’s my reading as well.
Cheers Peter
Stefanie just pointed out (via PM) that we haven’t settled on some sort of typification. There could be various ways: * @type on msDesc * @type on msPart (not provided yet) * @form on objectDesc * …? My (pragmatic) proposal would be to let sleeping dogs lie and do not try to come up with some suggested values here. We should rather encourage people to provide some information (within history?) about what makes those msParts parts of something else and what is this something else (within msName?). Just my tuppence Peter
I'm thinking that a @type on msDesc would help to quickly find out which
approach is being used and avoid mixed use of msParts. Having two
formalized terms would certainly help.
But the guidelines should still encourage encoders to provide that more
information about why/how the parts are or are not fragments -- like Peter
suggested.
Raff
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Peter Stadler
Stefanie just pointed out (via PM) that we haven’t settled on some sort of typification. There could be various ways: * @type on msDesc * @type on msPart (not provided yet) * @form on objectDesc * …?
My (pragmatic) proposal would be to let sleeping dogs lie and do not try to come up with some suggested values here. We should rather encourage people to provide some information (within history?) about what makes those msParts parts of something else and what is this something else (within msName?).
Just my tuppence Peter
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