Re: [tei-council] Telecon and updates

thank you for the information you have provided, Hugh Stefanie 2015-11-30 14:08 GMT+01:00 Hugh Cayless :

Thursday December 3 at 0600 PST / 0900 EST / 1400 GMT / 1500 CET seems like the consensus then. Let’s plan on that. We’ve been successfully using Google Hangouts lately, but there is a phone-in conference room available too (which I can hook up to the Hangout). Let me know ahead of time if you’d prefer to use that. Otherwise, I’ll mail out a link to the Hangout and agenda the morning of the call. See you then!

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On Nov 26, 2015, at 8:17 , Lou Burnard wrote:

On 24/11/15 21:19, Hugh Cayless wrote:

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Dear All,

I’ve made some progress on the Pure ODD XSLT. Please browse around http://teic.github.io/TEI/index.html http://teic.github.io/TEI/index.html and be on the lookout for display bugs or things you’d like done differently.

I've had a quick click through and so far this looks bug free and correct. Well done! I have a request for clarifying the labelling though:

Please change the label "Pure ODD" to "ODD declaration", and the label "Declaration" to "RELAXNG declaration" (I'm assuming we don't plan to add WSD Schema or DTD to the list any time soon)

Thanks Lou! It would be nice to add these back. Well, maybe not DTDs…but, yeah, probably not in the very near future.

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And, sorry Peter, but I remain unconvinced about the utility of

duplicating the class membership information in the ODD declaration. This information is already provided by the Attributes and Member Of sections. I think a better idea might be to add the list of attribute classes of which an element is a member to the "Member Of" section, since currently this shows only the model classes. You can see the relevant attribute classes, and their structure, in the "Attributes" section of course, but no-one ever does.

At this point I can add as much or as little as we decide we want. I don’t think I have a strong opinion about it except that you’re really not getting as much information from the Pure Odd section as from the RelaxNG section if you don’t include the classes and attribute defs. I think it bears some thinking about and discussion, but like I said, I don’t feel strongly about it one way or another.

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So, can we expect a Guided tour of the TEI XSLT stylesheet library soon?

Clearly you should share the knowledge gained in this experience with the rest of the Council. Or the TEI just won't be able to afford the risk of letting you get on an airplane again.

Not sure I’d mind that particularly :-). Yeah, I need to do some documenting of what I’ve learned, and we desperately need some way-finder tools for people working on the Stylesheets. Not to be immodest about my programming talents, but I know what I’m doing, and this was *hard*—largely because it’s not at all obvious where you need to make a change in order to produce a particular output. The Stylesheets aren’t good at telling you what each one is supposed to do, let alone what templates override others or are overridden in a given situation.

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Although we had enough for a quorum in the poll for meeting times, we’d

either be excluding new members, which I’d rather not do, or current members who really need to be there, so I’ve added some more dates at http://doodle.com/poll/wyuc3qiv9rkx4db6. Please update your availability when you get the chance.

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Done. I've decided not to travel on 3rd dec, so my availability is now

improved.

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Whether we have a year-end release or not, I think we’re getting close

to the time when we should go ahead and merge the Pure ODD branch. Thoughts?

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When I feel a bit stronger, I think I'd like to rebuild that branch

starting from the latest dev branch. Most of the changes are scripted, so it will be quicker than trying to resolve a gazillion conflicts.

That would be fantastic. As a bit of an experiment, I had a go at merging, and it entails visually inspecting pretty much every file in the Specs. Which is fine if you like hours and hours of tedium, but otherwise gets boring very quickly...

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And once again, thanks and congratulations on sorting this surprisingly

nasty issue out…

:-)

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