Re: [Tei-council] Zenodo

Yes, there will always (even from the current P5 release) a pointer to our website tei-c.org http://tei-c.org/ and additionally we can point to the DOI 10.5281/zenodo.3413524 https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3413524 for the zenodo object of the P5 Guidelines (which will point at the latest release). We would only need to update this pointer when we publish P6 :) Peter

Am 25.09.2019 um 12:09 schrieb Elisa Beshero-Bondar :

Of course we don't want to have to update such a pointer every time there's a new release...

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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:08 AM Elisa Beshero-Bondar mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu> wrote: Only replying first because due to jet lag I happen to be online...I think I like these being separate objects since people sometimes want to access historical versions of the Guidelines as resources in their own right, but we need a careful marking strategy as you suggest. Can/should each of the separate objects also contain a pointer to the current Guidelines?

Elisa

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:02 AM Peter Stadler mailto:pstadler@mail.uni-paderborn.de> wrote: Dear all,

another zenodo related question while I was working on manually adding the pre-P5 versions: Shall the P1–4 Guidelines be zenodo objects on their own or shall they be subsumed as old versions of the P5 Guidelines?

Pro (separate object): * version history is clean, e.g. P5 starts with "v1.0.0", not "P1, v?“; otherwise: does the P5 versions need to be prefixed with P5?

Cons * old versions of the Guidelines show up in search results for e.g. „TEI Guidelines“ (which could be marked as „outdated“ or „superseded“ but still people will come across these old versions)

I’m a little bit in favour of having separate zenodo objects and already prepared those (see screenshot). Yet, I want to get your feedback on this and will happily nuke these drafts :)

NB: All the metadata (license, authors, etc.) can be overwritten for versions as well as for separate objects. But it’s impossible to delete a zenodo object once it's published.

Best Peter

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Am 23.09.2019 um 11:30 schrieb Lou Burnard mailto:lou.burnard@retired.ox.ac.uk>:

The documentation at https://tei-c.org/Vault/Vault-GL.html https://tei-c.org/Vault/Vault-GL.html is fairly clear, I think.

There is the original teip3 version dating from April 1994, and the major revision of it published as teip4-beta. The differences are quite substantial, (including, for example, the addition of the <ab> element) but it is still in SGML. The "p4beta" version was intended to be usable either in SGML or XML, but I agree that it belongs properly under P3, as the last line of its preface indicates.

Happy to have a closer look when I am not preoccupied with preparing for tomorrow's training session here in Budapest... but basically, I'd suggest, archive everything.

L

On 23/09/2019 08:02, Peter Stadler wrote:

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Sorry for the noise, I should be reading before posting …

* There is TEI P3 draft (only published on paper), which is teip3doc.tar.gz (dating from April 8, 1994 as it states in p3front.doc – yet, in the later documents it says 16 May 1994?) * There is TEI P3 final revision, which has teip3dtd.tar.gz, teip3html.tar.gz, teip3p3x.tar.gz, and p4beta.pdf (dating from May 1999), I will put this under P3, not P4beta, right?

Institutional memory needs to be revisited frequently to keep it alive …

Best Peter

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Am 23.09.2019 um 08:36 schrieb Peter Stadler mailto:pstadler@mail.uni-paderborn.de:

Signierter PGP-Teil

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Am 23.09.2019 um 08:32 schrieb Peter Stadler mailto:pstadler@mail.uni-paderborn.de:

For P3: I only see the prose documentation linked at https://tei-c.org/Vault/Vault-GL.html https://tei-c.org/Vault/Vault-GL.html. Are there no DTDs? I think I found it myself at Vault/GL/ – there are the files teip3doc.tar.gz, teip3dtd.tar.gz, teip3html.tar.gz which should probably be in the Zenodo archive, right?

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