Re: [Tei-council] feedback on teiCorpus

Dear all, I am in phase with James’s note below. We could clarify rapidly while leaving options open. Laurent

Le 1 juil. 2019 à 11:45, James Cummings a écrit :

Hi Laurent, Martina, Council, etc.

In terms of responding on TEI-L, this should be done promptly, I think immediately. Someone should take pains to point out again the two different and quite separate issues at hand:

1) For the standoff proposal, not wanting teiHeader in places other than it usually appears has created the suggestion of nesting TEI elements. This may or may not be a good solution for those wanting the standoff element or other people.

2) If, and only if, the council implemented the ability to nest TEI elements, this sort of makes TEICorpus redundant. In that case we are considering the possibilities of a) a long deprecation of TEICorpus, or b) choosing to more strongly exemplify nesting TEI or c) not deprecating in any way. Some may feel we should have both ways of doing things, some that we should de-exemplify TEICorpus, and some that should not deprecate or de-exemplify it at all. It is really issue 2 that we are asking the community about.

Just my two pence,

Many thanks, James

-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk mailto:James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk Senior Lecturer in Late-Medieval Literature and Digital Humanities School of English, Newcastle University From: Tei-council mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Laurent Romary mailto:laurent.romary@inria.fr> Sent: 01 July 2019 09:22 To: Martina Scholger Cc: TEI Council Subject: Re: [Tei-council] feedback on teiCorpus

Dear Martina, I need to set my planning for the week, but I could set up Monday afternoon as a possible slot. Best wishes, Laurent

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Le 1 juil. 2019 à 10:10, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> a écrit :

Dear Laurent,

The Council will meet from September 14 to 16 (Sat-Mon). Would it be possible for you to join the Council meeting for a half day / a couple of hours to discuss standoff and other ling issues?

Best, Martina

Von: Laurent Romary mailto:laurent.romary@inria.fr> Gesendet: Montag, 01. Juli 2019 07:39 An: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> Cc: TEI Council mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> Betreff: Re: feedback on teiCorpus

Dear all, The main point I see is that by linking the two issues, we have been weak in argumentent for any of them. The causal chain from [teiHeader should not be in stadOff] to [teiCorpus] must be dropped is tiny, and we need to see whether we should not deal with things more independently from one another (in whatever order). I had started to elaborate the stdOff case in the scenario document but truly the recursive TEI discussion took us most of our discussion time. This is subtle and mail is not necessarily the best channel. Would Graz be a good place for making progress f2f? Best wishes, Laurent

Le 30 juin 2019 à 23:31, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> a écrit :

Dear all,

There have been several replies and questions sparked by our email about nesting TEI, deprecating teiCorpus, and standoff. One of the most prominent questions is that people want to know more about the standoff element. Is there a documentation that we can share with the list? Is this (https://github.com/sydb/stdfSpec/tree/linkDataBlock/Specification https://github.com/sydb/stdfSpec/tree/linkDataBlock/Specification) in a state to be shared? The second major reaction was that several people ask for a reason why teiCorpus should be deprecated. How do we want to proceed with this? I believe that we should address this soon.

Best, Martina

Von: Tei-council mailto:tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> Im Auftrag von Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Juni 2019 23:32 An: Laurent Romary mailto:laurent.romary@inria.fr> Cc: TEI Council mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> Betreff: Re: [Tei-council] feedback on teiCorpus

Dear all,

thanks for your comments and suggestions. If there are no objections until tomorrow at noon, I’ll send it to the list.

Best, Martina

Von: Laurent Romary mailto:laurent.romary@inria.fr> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Juni 2019 20:54 An: Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> Cc: TEI Council mailto:tei-council@lists.tei-c.org> Betreff: Re: feedback on teiCorpus

Cool! I have edited the footnote and commented on the deprecation time. Best wishes and thanks for the lead on this, Laurent

Le 24 juin 2019 à 19:04, Scholger, Martina (martina.scholger@uni-graz.at mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at) mailto:martina.scholger@uni-graz.at> a écrit :

Dear Laurent, dear Council,

As discussed, we want to send an email to the TEI-L announcing the introduction of nesting TEI elements and asking for feedback on the proposal to deprecate <teiCorpus>. I made a first draft for this email here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jlk0FUHjUKlN-1-WAqhlhYReT2yq_eIbYP66oskx... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jlk0FUHjUKlN-1-WAqhlhYReT2yq_eIbYP66oskx...) and ask you to chime in. I suggest to send this on Wednesday.

Best wishes, Martina

Laurent Romary Inria, team ALMAnaCH laurent.romary@inria.fr mailto:laurent.romary@inria.fr Laurent Romary Inria, team ALMAnaCH laurent.romary@inria.fr mailto:laurent.romary@inria.fr Laurent Romary Inria, team ALMAnaCH laurent.romary@inria.fr