Re: [Tei-council] shooting the messenger : make still broken

Just trying out the Jenkins Docker, and indeed, tools.jar is not in /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/lib/tools.jar, but it *is* in /usr/local/openjdk-8/lib/, so something funky is going on with that... On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 11:19 AM Hugh Cayless wrote:

The Jenkins Docker build should have a proper JDK installed automatically, but maybe it's not where ant thinks it should be?

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 11:07 AM Lou Burnard wrote:

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Installing open-jdk-8-jdk got rid of those messages for me (on ancient version of ubuntu)

On 30/06/2019 15:53, Hugh Cayless wrote:

I see the following message in the logs: "Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/lib/tools.jar" I think that means the JDK isn't installed, or isn't completely installed?

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:45 AM Hugh Cayless wrote:

It's still failing on Jenkins though...not sure why. It's still giving the "Warning: XML resolver not found; external catalogs will be ignored" message, which I no longer get locally, so I'm guessing it's not seeing, or is failing to deal with, the resolver-1.2.0.jar library.

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:25 AM Lou Burnard wrote:

Thanks Hugh. With those changes, it works fine for me too. Someone should remember to tell Luis not to bother, all the same! On 30/06/2019 14:45, Hugh Cayless wrote:

I've had a go at fixing this by adding an XML catalog for the RNGs in Exemplars, and (incidentally) fixing that dratted warning about the missing resolver by adding one. It builds successfully for me locally. We'll see if it works for Jenkins...

Hugh

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 7:22 AM Lou Burnard wrote:

The real question is: why are we including this file via an HTTP copy from the TEI website, when it's already present in the Exemplums directory? A gnomic comment in the ODD source suggests this is something to do with oXGarage:

line 70:

http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0 http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0 http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0 http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0 http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0 http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0 xmlns:rng="http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0" http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0 http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0 http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0 http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0 http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0 http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0 url="https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng" https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rnghttps://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng> <!-- this needs to be an absolute URI to keep oxGarage happy -->

(This is for the inclusion of SVG rng, but the same applies, presumably, to the inclusion of mathml.rng)

But

(a) is this still really true? is the new oxGarage less demanding? Peter?

(b) even if it is true, wouldn't it be better to point to a website run by the people who run SVG and Mathml (respectively) assuming there is such a thing?

The copy in the Exemplum directory is exactly the same as the one I just downloaded from the TEI website. Since the former has been languishing there for THIRTEEN YEARS, it's not the most dynamic of data in any case...

It seems to me it would be better to try to work within the constraints of having a professionally maintained secure website than bend the rules. I assume Luis set this limit for a purpose, and I'd rather trust his judgment if possible! On 30/06/2019 05:31, Martin Holmes wrote:

I think I was wrong about this: the server error is 429, which is "too many requests". I think the tei server may be set up to reject repeated requests for the same files, which is something the build process does as a matter of course. I've written to Luis to ask if there's a limit, and if so, whether it can be lifted.

[xslt] /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Stylesheets-dev/lastSuccessful/archive/dist/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/teiodds.xsl:1236:20: Fatal Error! I/O error reported by XML parser processinghttps://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng: Server returned HTTP response code: 429 for URL:https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng Cause: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 429 for URL: https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/custom/schema/relaxng/svg11.rng

Cheers, Martin

On 2019-06-29 3:16 p.m., Martin Holmes wrote:

I think this is caused by the fact that the tei-c.org server is not serving some files correctly. If you wget that URL, you'll see that you get a 301 redirect to google.com. I've reported this to Luis, but if I understand his response correctly, it's some sort of security measure he put in place. I've asked him if he can change the setup so that files like rng are served appropriately as text/xml, and he agreed to look at it.

Cheers, Martin

On 2019-06-29 1:43 p.m., Lou Burnard wrote:

Well, the build is now a lot healthier. The new validation method which checks examples against the schema being documented, rather than TEI All as before threw up a number of bugs in the source of the simplePrint odd. So not all change is bad!

The Make still fails though: now with a message the meaning of which defeats me: Anyone got any idea what's going on here?

BUILD FAILED /home/lou/Public/TEI/P5/Test/antruntest.xml:147: Fatal error during transformation using /usr/share/xml/tei/stylesheet/profiles/tei/relaxng/to.xsl: I/O error reported by XML parser processinghttps://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/Exemplars/mathml2-qname-1.mod.rng: Server returned HTTP response code: 429 for URL:https://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/Exemplars/mathml2-qname-1.mod.rng; SystemID: file:/usr/share/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/teiodds.xsl; Line#: 1292; Column#: 21

Total time: 9 seconds Makefile:54: recipe for target 'tei_allPlus.special' failed make: *** [tei_allPlus.special] Error 1

I can live happily without tei_allPlus.special tbh.

On 29/06/2019 21:32, Martin Holmes wrote:

Hi Lou,

Our main objective was to try to get the build working ahead of the release, not to say that what was done in the simplePrint ODD was wrong. I think you're right that there's something broken in the Stylesheets that wasn't broken before, but all our attempts to figure that out have failed so far. You're very welcome to help with that, and I really wish you would, rather than shouting at people.

Cheers, Martin

On 2019-06-29 8:50 a.m., Lou Burnard wrote:

Thinking about this debacle again, it seems to me that the approach taken in issue #370 (oh tei_simpleprint.odd has stopped working: so there must be something wrong with it) is really not defensible.

1. The unmodified tei_simplePrint odd is structured in exactly the same way as countless other ODDs, not excluding the TEI Guidelines. It has free floating globs of specification elements, which are invoked from a single schemaSpec by means of specGrpRefs.

2. The only thing which is slightly different about it is that some objects are declared more than once in multiple specGrps, with @mode=change. This is because the specGrps are organised thematically (for example one contains changes needed to introduce processing models, another contains changes needed to introduce schematron rules). This kind of logical organisation is perfectly reasonable as far as I am aware, indeed why else bother to have specGrps.

3. The only objection I can see to it is that an ODD processor has to decide how to combine two or more @mode=change specs. It's not just a matter of applying one set of changes: there may be a bunch of them. This is kind of the way unification grammars work in NLP: you build up the complete spec one bit at a time. Yes, occasionally you may find contradictions -- one spec adds an attribute x (say) which another one deletes, or gives a different datatype to. But this is not the only place where ODD processing is underspecified and rules of thumb are not hard to imagine (e.g. delete always wins; in the absence of delete, most recent modification always wins; etc.).

4. Moreover, and this is where I am really a bit annoyed, THIS USED TO WORK! So some infrastructural change has made it impossible to run the makefile and impossible to use the simpleprint odd as originally designed. And instead of trying to find what change has caused this, we are shooting the messenger. This my friends is called zealotry. In the immortal words of Michael SpMcQ in another recent context, "please don't".

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