Re: [tei-council] #705 <lg> cannot contain <q>, <seg>, etc.

Maybe

"A more general discussion of these and other strategies to deal with fragmentation and reconstruction appears in section <ptr target="#NHVE"/>. "

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On Mar 28, 2015, at 17:31, Martin Holmes wrote:

Hi Raff,

One more minor thing:

" A more general discussion of these and other strategies to deal with fragmentation and reconstruction are discussed in section <ptr target="#NHVE"/>. "

"are" should be "is", because the subject is "a more general discussion".

Sorry I didn't notice that last time.

Cheers, Martin

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On 15-03-28 07:08 AM, Raffaele Viglianti wrote: Thanks both,

I made a few changes following your suggestions and updates the gist: https://gist.github.com/raffazizzi/c70e1565bc4b83d4a043

Paul, the encoding solutions that you suggested wouldn't work for speech crossing line hierarchy:

<lg> <l>For, when our souls have learned the heat to bear,</l> <l>The cloud will vanish, we shall hear His voice,</l> <l>Saying, <said xml:id="s1" next="#s2">Come out from the grove, my love and care,</said></l> <l><said xml:id="s2" prev="#s1">And round my golden tent like lambs rejoice.</said></l> </lg>

Also using <div> instead of <lg> to access a certain element seems like tag abuse to me.

I think Chapter 20 offers clear solutions to deal with cases such as this one and the new proposed section simply applies them, as well as pointing the reader to the relevant chapter.

Raff

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:

Hi Raff,

Looks great. Just a couple of suggestions:

"It is possible that certain textual structures may span multiple lines of verse, either by incorporating multiple verses, or by crossing the hierarchy of verse lines."

Would "by incorporating multiple stanzas" be better? Or did you mean "lines"?

"For these cases, it is recommended to fragment and reconstruct the elements representing the textual structures."

This might be a personal thing, but I don't like "it is recommended to" + verb; it doesn't sound quite correct to me. Elsewhere in the Guidelines we use the formulation "it is recommended practice to...".

"The following example from Margaret Cavendish's <title>Nature's Pictures</title> shows speech encoded across two verses..."

Actually I think it shows speech encoded across two lines, doesn't it?

"Alternatively, the elements may be reconstructed with stand-of markup via the element <gi>join</gi>"

I think I'd prefer "using" instead of "via".

Cheers, Martin

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On 15-03-27 02:14 PM, Raffaele Viglianti wrote:

Hi all,

I've drafted a new section for chapter 6 Verse, to address bug #705 [1]

The new section would come right after the section "Components of the Verse Line" [2]

Here is the draft: https://gist.github.com/raffazizzi/c70e1565bc4b83d4a043#file-vesa

Please let me know if you have any comments. If we're happy with it, I'd like to commit it before the freeze on Monday.

Thanks! Raff

[1] https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/705/ [2] http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/VE.html#VESE

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