Hi all, In case you didn't notice, I added a comment to https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/327#issuecomment-405109022 detailing my work today on the listObject, objectName, and object element. I was tasked with producing a strawman proposal. However, this strawman is fairly complete, and is fully implemented (saving prose in the Guidelines...there are some placeholder div/p) in the jamescummings-object branch of the repo. What I'm intending to do here is give a way for people to describe objects (text-bearing or otherwise) with the minimal number of changes to the existing TEI but with the maximal amount of expressiveness. Since the ticket has been hanging around since 2011 (and was certainly discussed before that), and we discussed it in detail at the F2F in Victoria, I think it better to get something minimal into the Guidelines and the develop it based on requests thereafter. I'm hoping that *after* the current release we might get it into the dev branch with some tweaks. The objectName, listObject, and object have the same relational semantics as you'd guess from persName/listPerson/person or placeName/listPlace/place. The content model is sort of like msDesc but without msIdentifier (but with model.nameLike so the objectName and idno etc) and without msContents. The example I've used is the text-bearing object: the Alfred Jewel. In any case, thought I'd mention it in case any of you not frantically doing tickets before our upcoming freeze would want to check it out and suggest any (hopefully minor) changes that you think should change before it works its way into the Guidelines after the release, then let me know. Many thanks, James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University