Hi all, isn't that how SF shells always worked?  I remember there always being done weirdness around this. I.e. easier to scp the files but getting an actual login was always difficult in some way.

In release notes do things like:
===
A zip file with examples for ODD chaining has been added to the /TEIC/TEI/Documents/pureODD directory (#1882).
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really belong since it is for a tutorial outside of the Guidelines that Council isn't writing?
(Honest question, I'm not sure either way.)



Many thanks,
James

--
Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@newcastle.ac.uk
School of English Literature, Language, and Linguistics, Newcastle University

From: Tei-council <tei-council-bounces@lists.tei-c.org> on behalf of Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 1:40:45 AM
To: Elisa Beshero-Bondar <ebb8@pitt.edu>
Cc: TEI Council <tei-council@lists.tei-c.org>
Subject: Re: [Tei-council] release notes
 
I can't ssh into SF shell with my keys either, and I certainly used to
be able to. Things seem to have changed since the last time I did it,
though; the instructions here seem different:

<https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Shell%20Service/>

When I tried what's in TCW22 I was asked for a password, then the shell
shut itself down automatically:

__________________________________________
Password:
PTY allocation request failed on channel 0

Welcome!

This is a restricted Shell Account.
You can only copy files to/from here.

Connection to frs.sourceforge.net closed.
__________________________________________

It might be worth considering whether we want to bother with the SF
release any more; or whether it should be left until after release day,
to simplify things for the release technicians, and then someone could
just do it later when there's no time pressure.

Cheers,
Martin


On 2019-07-14 5:22 p.m., Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:
> Nope-- no luck yet. Same problem as before: I'm prompted for a password
> when I attempt SSH access to SourceForge TEI from the scratch-tei server.
> And the tei@tei-c.org <mailto:tei@tei-c.org> server just times out so I
> can't get in there at all.
>
> Thanks for the troubleshooting help...
>
> Elisa
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 2:15 AM Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca
> <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>> wrote:
>
>     I've added you to the admin group. Can you check again?
>
>     There was a problem with the TEI server yesterday; apparently the db
>     server became unresponsive, so the site was giving "unable to
>     connect to
>     db" errors (why oh why did we go for WordPress? If there's one
>     community
>     on the planet who doesn't need a child-friendly interface to make web
>     pages, it's us, surely?) I emailed Jon and he says it's a problem with
>     Compute Canada, and they weren't responding to his requests to restart
>     it, so he's set up a new db server instance and pointed to that
>     instead.
>     I don't know whether any of this would affect what needs to happen on
>     release day, but I hope not; presumably the regular command-line stuff
>     will be unaffected. But let's keep our fingers crossed.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Martin
>
>     On 2019-07-14 5:03 p.m., Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:
>      > Thanks, Martin--I see I'm a developer there now. But I'm still being
>      > prompted for a password when I try this: ssh
>      > ebeshero,tei@frs.sourceforge.net <mailto:tei@frs.sourceforge.net>
>     <mailto:tei@frs.sourceforge.net <mailto:tei@frs.sourceforge.net>>. I'm
>      > doing this SSH-ing from a temporary "scratch-tei" server that
>     Luis set
>      > up, and I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
>      >
>      > I notice I'm unable to SSH into the usual place: ssh
>     tei@tei-c.org <mailto:tei@tei-c.org>
>      > <mailto:tei@tei-c.org <mailto:tei@tei-c.org>>  (That just lags
>     and times out.) (But I'm able to
>      > get into the temporary server that Luis set up.) Maybe the
>     morning will
>      > bring some answers.
>      > Elisa
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 1:46 AM Martin Holmes <mholmes@uvic.ca
>     <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>
>      > <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Hi Elisa,
>      >
>      >     I've added you as a developer; can you see if you have the
>     permissions
>      >     you'll need?
>      >
>      >     Cheers,
>      >     Martin
>      >
>      >     On 2019-07-14 4:29 p.m., Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:
>      >      > I like it, too, but I'm also noting that "Potzrebie" is a
>     Polska
>      >     word!
>      >      > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potrzebie So it's kind of
>     perfect
>      >     right
>      >      > now while I'm staying with Magdalena! :-)
>      >      >
>      >      > By the way, I just posted this on Slack, but I think I
>     need to be a
>      >      > member or developer or something of the TEI Project on
>      >     Sourceforge. I'm
>      >      > ebeshero there, and my public SSH key is in with my
>     account. Can
>      >     someone
>      >      > add me there, as I'm not apparently on the SourceForge TEI
>      >      > member/developer list?
>      >      >
>      >      > Thanks,
>      >      > Elisa
>      >      >
>      >      > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 1:18 AM Martin Holmes
>     <mholmes@uvic.ca <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>
>      >     <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>>
>      >      > <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>
>     <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca <mailto:mholmes@uvic.ca>>>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >     Since Mad is just publishing its final edition
>      >      >
>      >    
>       (<https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/last-laugh-mad-magazine-will-soon-disappear-newsstands-180972572/>),
>      >      >
>      >      >     I vote for whatmeworry.
>      >      >
>      >      >     Cheers,
>      >      >     Martin
>      >      >
>      >      >     On 2019-07-14 3:01 p.m., Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:
>      >      >      > However(!) I'm having second thoughts, reviewing the
>      >     measurement
>      >      >     ticket
>      >      >      > and branch. I'd be happy to call this the
>     "potrzebie" or the
>      >      >      > "whatmeworry" release, in commemoration of the
>     measurement
>      >     ticket
>      >      >     and in
>      >      >      > honor of the first Mad Magazine example going into the
>      >     Guidelines
>      >      >     BIB
>      >      >      > (about the Potrzebie system with its whatmeworry
>     Mad Magazine
>      >      >     fictional
>      >      >      > power unit). Magdalena and I will debate it in the
>     morning and
>      >      >     decide on
>      >      >      > the codename. :-)
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > What, me worry?
>      >      >      > Elisa
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:09 PM Elisa Beshero-Bondar
>      >      >     <ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>
>     <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>> <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu
>     <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>
>      >     <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>>>
>      >      >      > <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>
>     <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>>
>      >     <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>
>     <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu <mailto:ebb8@pitt.edu>>>>> wrote:
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >     I've checked our minutes from the May F2F
>     meeting: We'd
>      >      >     decided then
>      >      >      >     to call this the "Rebel Release" and I like it
>     very much.
>      >      >     Also, as
>      >      >      >     I'm supposed to make the release branch right
>     now, I think
>      >      >     the rebel
>      >      >      >     associations with Bastille Day still apply. So!
>     codename
>      >      >     "rebel" okay?
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >     cheers,
>      >      >      >     Elisa
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >     On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:37 PM Syd Bauman
>      >      >      >     <s.bauman@northeastern.edu
>     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>
>      >     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu
>     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>>
>     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>
>      >     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu
>     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>>>
>      >      >     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu
>     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>
>      >     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu
>     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>>
>      >      >     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu
>     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>
>      >     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu
>     <mailto:s.bauman@northeastern.edu>>>>> wrote:
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >         Hi, Martin. Not surprisingly I've already hit
>      >     several of
>      >      >     the things
>      >      >      >         you note, and not others.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >          > Looks good. This is a slight typo:
>      >      >      >          > "An additional information that the unit
>      >     attribute may be
>      >      >      >         unnecessary
>      >      >      >          > when the unitRef attribute is present
>     has been
>      >     given
>      >      >     (#1905)."
>      >      >      >          > It should be either "An additional
>     warning" or just
>      >      >     "Additional
>      >      >      >          > information".
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >         Fixed.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >          > Also, I'm confused by this:
>      >      >      >          > "The factor attribute has been added to the
>      >     unit element,
>      >      >      >         which shows
>      >      >      >          > factors of numerical values given in a
>      >     referenced unit
>      >      >     element."
>      >      >      >          > I thought the @formula attribute was the
>     final
>      >      >     decision? And its
>      >      >      >          > datatype is XPath, surely?
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >         There is no @factor, so I deleted this
>     entire bit.
>      >     (I did not
>      >      >      >         fix the
>      >      >      >         bit that is in there about @formula, though ...
>      >     hope to
>      >      >     do that in a
>      >      >      >         few.)
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >          > For the Japanese translations, I don't
>     think I
>      >     should be
>      >      >      >         thanked; it's
>      >      >      >          > Kiyonori's team that's done the actual
>     translation,
>      >      >     and what
>      >      >      >         I've been
>      >      >      >          > doing (which is nowhere near half-done)
>     is largely
>      >      >      >         mechanical. Good to
>      >      >      >          > thank Hanna, but perhaps put her after
>     Kiyonori.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >         Did not touch this.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >         I also commented out two items completely, as I
>      >     consider
>      >      >     them too
>      >      >      >         minor to be in release notes (they are covered
>      >     under the
>      >      >     last bullet
>      >      >      >         point for the Guidelines, "Corrections of
>      >     typographic errors,
>      >      >      >         improvements on explanations, and
>     corrections of
>      >     examples
>      >      >     have been
>      >      >      >         conducted in various sections of the
>     Guidelines",
>      >     which
>      >      >     I'm not sure
>      >      >      >         should be a bullet point, but perhaps a
>     separate
>      >     paragraph):
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >           * The description of schema validation of
>      >     co-occurrence
>      >      >      >         constraints
>      >      >      >             has been cleaned up slightly (#1770).
>     [Also,
>      >     this was not
>      >      >      >         true, we
>      >      >      >             deleted said description. The section from
>      >     which it
>      >      >     was deleted
>      >      >      >             needs some work, BTW.]
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >           * The change from http:// to https:// for
>      >     relaxng.rng.
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>      >      >      >     Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD
>      >      >      >     Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate
>      >     Professor
>      >      >     of English
>      >      >      >     University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities
>      >     Division
>      >      >      >     150 Finoli Drive
>      >      >      >     Greensburg, PA  15601  USA
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>      >      >      > Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD
>      >      >      > Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate
>     Professor of
>      >      >     English
>      >      >      > University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities
>     Division
>      >      >      > 150 Finoli Drive
>      >      >      > Greensburg, PA  15601  USA
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>      >      > Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of
>      >     English
>      >      > University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division
>      >      > 150 Finoli Drive
>      >      > Greensburg, PA  15601  USA
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> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD
> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English
> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division
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